Chivalry is dead, and women killed it.
GD I hate to tell you this....but they ARENT petty attacks and frankly, I'm not even mad at you so we don't need a truce.
They ARE the truth as I see it and at least you are a BIT more self-honest then Buddha there.
How did I know you had a "great fondness" for womens breasts?? (besides the generilization) because YOU brought it up. You expounded on it and YOU went into big long explanations with lots of cool words about boobs, breasts, etc etc..
We are discussing womens rights and what do you bring up? Her breasts. Her body. Nothing about the mind, capabilities, changes the women have made or any of that. Nope, straight to the boobies. That's what gave you away right there i'm afraid. You tossed in some nice chatter about "functionality" but I don't for one second believe you've given any REAL thought to the "rights" of toplessness involved.......I mean...PLEASE!! Don't make me laugh.
You may be fooling yourself but you aren't fooling me or many other women either.
Chivalry is dead, and women killed it.
Women have been mistreated and abused throughout history. I really don't mind if they "try to play both sides of the game.":hippy:
Chivalry is dead, and women killed it.
Autonomy--yep! But we all get tired of being alone.
Oh Doc, be careful, the doc's are getting arrested here for a little zealous examination!
Chest's: Perhaps using 'boobs' to describe women is superficial. However, boobs, dangly earrings, high heels and a nice smell. We do that for their attention and to feel good about ourself! So, we are getting it! I'd rather be stuck in a room full of men than women! Too many hormones-me included!
Boobs: superficial and seemingly temporary! That is a sensitive area. We are worried about breast cancer. The proper person with the proper touch, is very stimulating and the word SEX hasn't even cum up yet!
I for one--give in! If I am hornie, I don't care about Chivalry or who pays the dining bill! I ALWAYS PAY unless my money is handed back to me with two hands. One to hold me and one to make sure I keep it! And a little kiss to say, thank you, I appreciate that you care about me!
IT IS HUMAN TOUCH! If men like boobs, surely they must know how stimulating it is for us! Face it, some women have boobs we'd all like to have or the plastic surgeons would not have a job!
If we all went topless, no one would know what anyone looked liked. I am sick of being looked at from the boobs up! Or conversations with men and the only eye contact is to the boobs. How would men like it if we talked to their penis's!
More on the TOPIC!
We are not physically equal. Equality dies when we USE our bodies instead of our minds in our life selections! (I know, just ask my lawyer-cause ya gotta level the playing field when it's over and boobs have nothing to do with it)! :rastasmoke:
Green Des. Maybe you should start a thread on boobs! So, all of us can understand what it is men think and like about boobs! And if you'll still love her if she has a mastectomy!
Chivalry is dead, and women killed it.
IF I HAD A DOUBLE MASTECTOMY TO SAVE MY LIFE, THIS BOOB TALK WOULD PISS ME OFF! So, I guess we need to stay with the Equality!
Before I am told, get Fake ones! Maybe they will look and feel good to someone, but they are not a good idea after breast cancer. They will hide any future cancer! pr
Chivalry is dead, and women killed it.
Oh my. I agree with you, Pain Retreat. I just read Dave's comments above. He is nothing if not a boob man (and a pain in the ass!). That's because, bless his heart, he doesn't have much in the way of endowment in me. I am a modest B+ on a good day, but I won't have them amplified because I don't want the added potential diagnostic complications. I don't believe them to be a good thing for ladies even before cancer. He actually does work with chests, only he's normally concentrating on what's inside them.
He's better at equality and chivalry than most. I'll give him that. He fixed breakfast this morning and is now out there mowing the lawn. I'm on the computer instead of cleaning the house!!
Chivalry is dead, and women killed it.
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Originally Posted by stinkyattic
I think in response to the draft question, that's a good point. I'm in favor of equal-opportunity draft, in theory (explained below). However you do remember that in wartime, women traditionally have put in a great effort in the factories, where they can both 'hold down the fort' and also do work towards supplying the war machine.
The biggest issue with a draft that included women that I can see is how would one draw the line with children? Obviously a pregnant woman cannot be drafted; would women then be compelled to get KTFU to avoid a draft? I mean, already, some *cough* skeezy *cough* chicks have kids for welfare or child support bucks; hell, my buddy's ex has the hat trick, and da daddies all make bank. Bitch never needs to work again. Anyway, I think it would cause a LOT of problems. Let's just hope we never have another draft...
Ummm.....coed draft works in Israel, and *ALL* are required to serve in the military for 2 years immediately after high school and before college.
Chivalry is dead, and women killed it.
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Originally Posted by Mississippi Steve
Ummm.....coed draft works in Israel, and *ALL* are required to serve in the military for 2 years immediately after high school and before college.
I once make a comment, to some people I was with in a restaurant, about Israel drafting women into the military and that this sounded like a good thing. A total stranger, an Israeli guy, came over and told me that Israel had the worst women in the world. Although he was laughing, he was serious.
Chivalry is dead, and women killed it.
Why the worst? On the basis of looks? On the basis that their military training took their femininity away? On the basis that they were too tough once they were soldiers to be any fun any more? I'm just curious what that description was based on.
I think the draft ought to go both ways, myself, if we have one If a tall, slender type like me can pass a firefighting physical, which wasn't easy but was possible with work, then nearly anyone can. We'd have to work around pregnancies, and I do agree with Stinky that a lot of women would likely get pregnant to get out of service. But fair is fair. Women are already serving as fighter-bomber pilots overhead. They're already serving as military medics in combat situations. There've been three courageous service awards given (two silver stars and a bronze, I think) to female medics in Iraq and Afghanistan. More than 100 of them have died in the line of duty to these wars. So it's already really happening, really. We might as well make it official.
Chivalry is dead, and women killed it.
I might also add there is a fine line between being chivalrous and being patronizing, especially these days. If I feel the person is trying to mask a condescending attitude with chivalry , I will reject it even if they think they are actually being nice about it. I guess it has to do with my attitude at the time. Sometimes I'm more accepting of help than other times.
My husband sometimes even over does it. Then comes the old "Don't patronize me, buddy! I'm not helpless!" But at least he tries.:o
As for women being on the front line I say wait until PMS sets in, give these women guns, and watch the men fall! What a release that would be!:lol5:
Chivalry is dead, and women killed it.
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Originally Posted by birdgirl73
Why the worst? On the basis of looks? On the basis that their military training took their femininity away? On the basis that they were too tough once they were soldiers to be any fun any more? I'm just curious what that description was based on.
It was over 30 years ago, and I didn't get into it with the guy, but he looked like he'd been in military service himself. I think that he meant that the women were not pleasant to be with, for various reasons.
One of the strongest arguments against putting women in combat, or any dangerous occupation, is that men's lives are put at further risk because they tend to have a protective instinct toward females. I realize that the lunatic fringes of feminism are trying to eliminate this tendency in boys, but is this really what we want? It would probably make things worse.
