Stages of Marijuana Smoking

Pure BS put out by the gov! Here's the truth!

Effects of chronic marijuana use on testosterone, luteinizing hormone, follicle stimulating hormone, prolactin and cortisol in men and women.
University of Iowa Anesthesia Publications

- Granny:hippy:

The bottom line - bud can't be abused by everyone! I've been saying this for years. I smoke every day and don't have barely any negative symptoms other than laziness, which surprise surprise is nothing new. I was always lazy.

u go grany i was gonna say something like that :hippy: but anyway have fun not tokin and rip jane. :jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by 4twentE

but if you're too sorry to groom and dress in the morning, you're probably an ugly f__ker anyway. You've got problems besides pot.

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LOL...i'd have to agree with that.

But to FindingTim:
I think you just need to find your own ways of 'productive smoking'. If you have a positive outlook on your cannabis use, you'll find its benefits outweigh the negative feelings you had before.
Cannabis expands your mind...that is one positive attribute you didn't mention.
Good luck..you'll smoke your way back:jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by FindingTim

These are the stages of smoking that I went through up until now, starting in my sophomore year of high school. I am now a freshmen at Loyola Marymount in Los Angeles, and I spent about 1/2 of the first semester completely baked. However, I hope this time my abstinence will be permanent. I am posting this in order to both promote my own decision to quit smoking, and to assist anyone who may be blind to their own similar experiences.

Stages:
1. Began pot experimentation around age 15, yet did not use habitually. Found experience to be life-changing . Even began to appreciate nature.

2. Began to smoke on weekends with friends. Created countless priceless memories.
3. Bought first sack, smoked alone for first time.
4. Continued to buy, began to listen to classic rock, and spent many hours on cannabis.com message boards.
5. Began to question marijuana use only because of potential cancer link, but began to smoke even more after reading numerous studies disproving the marijuana/cancer connection.
6. Hardcore marijuana abuse over summer, sometimes going a week at a time without sobering up. In a brainwashed stupor, attempted to persuade many peers to try smoking.
7. Lots of personal marijuana abuse over next two years, with several month long breaks in between.
8. Began to recognize own smoking as an addiction and a problem, yet began to incorporate smoking into almost any type of activity.
9. Began to realize that marijuana use was negatively affecting almost every aspect of life. Quit for a month several times, vowing to not smoke again for years. Continuously relapsed after a months time with justifications such as: â??itâ??s been long enough,â?� and â??Iâ??ll only use occasionally.â?�
10. Each month long break resulted in a mildly skeptical â??welcome backâ?? smoke, which always led to hardcore, 24/7 pot smoking. Despite realizing that pot no longer provided the epic mental journey of sophomore year, continued to use and abuse.
11. Began to pay close attention to levels of happiness and overall emotions while both stoned and sober. Found that happiness, intellect, and even enjoyment of music all were increased during days that followed pot binges, rather than during.
12. Decided that social abilities, intelligence, and emotions are far too precious to waste by smoking pot.


More personal observations:

Positives of Marijuana Abuse:
Get high
Social involvement
Negatives of Marijuana Abuse:
Weight gain (munchies)
Apathy (loss of emotions/feelings/motivation)
Worse physical appearance (droopy eyes, not just while stoned)
Memory loss
Greatly weakened social ability
No sex drive
Increased estrogen (less muscle mass potential)
Learning difficulty
Loss of confidence
Completely different personality
No R.E.M. sleep or dreams
Withdrawal Symptoms:
Sleep disturbance
Wrestlessness
Irritability
Complete appetite loss
Loss in confidence
Mild depression

So, after four years and thousands of bowls (literally), I am done. Oh, and please excuse my signature; I made it a long time ago.

Final 10 cents:
---Dennis Kucinich 08'!--- (He happens to be the most reasonable and peace-minded candidate. Watch him in debates and you too may realize that he is the one candidate capable of making huge, positive change in this country.) :thumbsup:

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There are so many problems with your logic I don't even know where to start.

I'm 20 years old, and a sophomore in college. I have been smoking almost every day for the past year. Prior to that, I was a very casual smoker, some months smoking once or twice, or none at all. Less than 25 times per year. That was up until about a year ago.

Now, I smoke ONLY once per day, and always at night about an hour or two before sleep. Personally, I use it because I like the effects: relaxation, altered state of mind, increased laughter, etc,. I use it at night prior to sleep because it is the time of the day when I DON'T NEED to be productive: this is time I had previously spent watching tv sober, using the computer, etc,.

Now, I've made the decision to not smoke during the day, because I understand that would be irresponsible for me, and for my life. Marijuana isn't MAKING me use it all the time, I am the one that controls its usage. If you don't have the ability to exercise that discipline, you shouldn't be using it. Period. Learn to be accountable for your actions, something you probably have no concept of.

I have plenty of friends that use marijuana just as often, if not more, than I do. Some of them have problems managing their usage(being high during the day, in school, etc,.). I also have other friends who use it responsibly as I do, and they have no problems with it in their life.

Reality check: You're in college, you're young, you don't know what your talking about(an exaggeration, of course).

You say you go to LMU? I've got some friends there, some do some crazy drugs over there. You in a frat(99.99% chance)?

You say you spent 1/2 a semester baked? That doesn't seem very smart to me. You were responsible for choosing to smoke for that period of time. Marijuana didn't entice you. You most likely have other psychological issues that need sorting out, and your outlet for your problems was marijuana at that time.

You attempted to persuade others to smoke? I'm assuming you peer-pressured them? Another clue you might be in a frat. If you are consciously peer-pressuring people like that, see a therapist. Bully, anyone?

The point is that you are obviously ABUSING marijuana, just like people abuse every other drug on this planet, but you chose pot.

I'm not saying marijuana abuse doesn't cause any ill effects, because it obviously has to you. You need to understand that when you started ABUSING it, you should have said to yourself, hey, what am I doing? Anytime you make a lifestyle change such as smoking every day, you NEED to analyze it. That's what a responsible person does.

I really hope this isn't the case, but I wouldn't be surprised if in 2 years you end up with a vicodin addiction, because that is what "people were doing" at the time, and you were just a psychological mess, so you abused it. For your sake, don't let this abuse problem manifest itself in another drug, activity, [insert commonly abused thing here].


Overall, you probably used the following logic in your post:

Cause: Started smoking marijuana a lot.
Effect: It ruined my life.
Reality: You weren't happy with yourself prior to smoking a lot(that's a problem), and you ended up abusing marijuana, masking your emotional distress. Now here you are, complaining about marijuana hurting your life, when what really is hurting you isn't even in the post at all.

Also, about your "negative effects":

Those are the effects of depression(give or take a few).

You were depressed, you started smoking, it made it even worse, and here you are now. Probably still depressed inside, but hopefully finally accepting that. The world is a lot bigger than LMU, TRUST ME.

BTW:

I don't mean to sound like an asshole, I'm just laying it all on the table for you. I could be completely wrong about everything I said, because I don't know you, but maybe you will pull a little insight out of this post.

In response to this:

"Based on observations of myself and my close weed-smoking friends, marijuana slowly creeps up on you, and before you know it, you aren't who you thought you were or who you want to be. I really think huge potheads would be doing themselves a favor by asking themselves, "Is this truly the person I want to be?"

Listen. Smoking all day, every day, is a lifestyle change. Lifestyle changes CHANGE WHO YOU ARE. That's why they are called lifestyle changes. Its your conscious decision to change your life, by smoking every day, that is what actually catalyzes the changes.

All of my close friends, who have known me since WAY before I started smoking, tell me that I haven't changed at all. Why? Because I do the same shit I've always done from 9am - 9pm, except for when I smoke, usually by myself, at night.

Significance: It hasn't changed my life, or creeped up on me(lol), at all.

I don't tell people I smoke, and they would never notice. I enjoy it, my life is enriched, and life goes on.

Who Am I?

College student.
Self-employed, and own an IT consulting company.
On my way, to *hopefully* expanding my business(booo recession), and some day a family and kids.

Have my dreams been ruined by pot? You be the judge. As far as I'm concerned I'm right on track ;).

PEACE OUT

^^^^ Excellent post! :thumbsup:

Weed doesn't MAKE ANYONE DO/BE ANYTHING!


Weed doesn't hold you down and keep you from cleaning your room

Weed doesn't make you jump out of a window thinking you can fly (if you do this, you deserve to die anyways in my oppinion, via natural law, because you didn't try taking off from the ground first)

Weed doesn't MAKE you eat




Weed gives people an excuse to let themselves fuck their lives up.

It's just weed man. If you don't like it, don't do it; don't make it our problem. I understand that a bunch of you are all worked up over some kid's opinion of our precious greenery but it's just an opinion, he doesn't like it so like I said, it's his problem. I like the controversy though. I would say my famous "It's just pot, weed ain't.." but it'll just get deleted, so hopefully you all know what I'm getting at. It's only harmful if you let it get that way. Take care of yourselves and don't become a statistic.

I had my first joint at 13, making it five years since I've started smoking. I smoke daily, it's a part of who I am. I've never blamed weed for anything in my life, anything negative I brought on myself, not pot. Pot is a plant, nothing more to me. I smoke roughly 2 g's a day and when I was younger it was more. The only problem I've had with the goddess mary jane is that the bitch is too expensive. :P

:)

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Originally Posted by FindingTim

These are the stages of smoking that I went through up until now, starting in my sophomore year of high school. I am now a freshmen at Loyola Marymount in Los Angeles, and I spent about 1/2 of the first semester completely baked. However, I hope this time my abstinence will be permanent. I am posting this in order to both promote my own decision to quit smoking, and to assist anyone who may be blind to their own similar experiences.

Stages:
1. Began pot experimentation around age 15, yet did not use habitually. Found experience to be life-changing . Even began to appreciate nature.

2. Began to smoke on weekends with friends. Created countless priceless memories.
3. Bought first sack, smoked alone for first time.
4. Continued to buy, began to listen to classic rock, and spent many hours on cannabis.com message boards.
5. Began to question marijuana use only because of potential cancer link, but began to smoke even more after reading numerous studies disproving the marijuana/cancer connection.
6. Hardcore marijuana abuse over summer, sometimes going a week at a time without sobering up. In a brainwashed stupor, attempted to persuade many peers to try smoking.
7. Lots of personal marijuana abuse over next two years, with several month long breaks in between.
8. Began to recognize own smoking as an addiction and a problem, yet began to incorporate smoking into almost any type of activity.
9. Began to realize that marijuana use was negatively affecting almost every aspect of life. Quit for a month several times, vowing to not smoke again for years. Continuously relapsed after a months time with justifications such as: â??itâ??s been long enough,â?� and â??Iâ??ll only use occasionally.â?�
10. Each month long break resulted in a mildly skeptical â??welcome backâ?? smoke, which always led to hardcore, 24/7 pot smoking. Despite realizing that pot no longer provided the epic mental journey of sophomore year, continued to use and abuse.
11. Began to pay close attention to levels of happiness and overall emotions while both stoned and sober. Found that happiness, intellect, and even enjoyment of music all were increased during days that followed pot binges, rather than during.
12. Decided that social abilities, intelligence, and emotions are far too precious to waste by smoking pot.


More personal observations:

Positives of Marijuana Abuse:
Get high
Social involvement
Negatives of Marijuana Abuse:
Weight gain (munchies)
Apathy (loss of emotions/feelings/motivation)
Worse physical appearance (droopy eyes, not just while stoned)
Memory loss
Greatly weakened social ability
No sex drive
Increased estrogen (less muscle mass potential)
Learning difficulty
Loss of confidence
Completely different personality
No R.E.M. sleep or dreams
Withdrawal Symptoms:
Sleep disturbance
Wrestlessness
Irritability
Complete appetite loss
Loss in confidence
Mild depression

So, after four years and thousands of bowls (literally), I am done. Oh, and please excuse my signature; I made it a long time ago.

Final 10 cents:
---Dennis Kucinich 08'!--- (He happens to be the most reasonable and peace-minded candidate. Watch him in debates and you too may realize that he is the one candidate capable of making huge, positive change in this country.) :thumbsup:

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I belive that many times we blame a drug or a strong drink, when we should blame are selfs, we all have to ask are selfs why did we try this are that in the first place. mabey there is somthing wrong with us that makes us want to try somthing that will make us feel better, what wrong with us if we feel that we need somthing to make us feel better, in other words if it ant broke dont fix it.
so if you feel fine then why take somthing to change the way you feel?

this is a bunch of bs, ive smoked 1000's of bowls myself and i dont have these problems. but if you think it causes all of these problems why do u keep going back to it? because you like getting high so u dont realize your an idiot.