Who here likes Ron Paul?

Isloationist? that is quite a judgement you have there.. you must be like everyone else voting for rich evil bastards who want to police the globe... which is UNMANGEABLE we have to fix our own country, so that our own nation and other nations will RESPECT us. we have murdered almost 700,000 Iraqis do u care about those inisint YOUNG iraqis and 4000 US troops. not to mention it costs us TRILLIONS to run this greedy war Have we accomplished anything???? :wtf: NO we havent so get us the fuck back home.. and protect us while u still can... i will be tempted to leave the country for a while if ron paul looses... THE MAIN reason ron paul has a chance against these money hungry people is the US troops who lost thier friends and KNOW FROM BEING ON THE GROUND THIER that these Iraqs fight more deadly than any george bush monkey could understand. they said 6days, 6weeks mabye 6 more.. DONT U understand what the people of this nation truly are crying out for change.

u also have a the word PEACE is big letters on ur sig..but u think we should kill kill kill right?

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Originally Posted by Old Stoner

First question - would ANY of you who said you would vote for Ron Paul do so if he were ANTI-MARIJUANA?

Second question - Why?

Third question - What are your ages - the ones who want to vote for Ron Paul, and...

Fourth question - Are you registered to vote?

Now my take on this entire legalization issue.

Some of you fail to realize that Ron Paul, or ANY OTHER PERSON ELECTED PRESIDENT (not yelling, just EMPHASIZING!) - Well, whomever is elected president CAN NOT legalize Cannabis. Due to the fact in the next paragraph.

There is this little thing called the Legeslative Branch of our government to contend with. The United States Senate and the United States House of Representatives. THEY make the laws. NOT the president. These people are the ones you folks need to be a little more concerned over.

Get rid of the old farts, and bring in some new blood. Ted Kennedy is 188 years old. How in the world do we keep electing people who can't even say Barack Obama correctly? (Kennedy called him "Osama" Obama by "misspeak" awhile ago. Geez...

Sure, the president has the right to veto, but in actuality, he has little to say about the legalization of anything.

I read this entire thread, and it seems to me that, and NO offense to anyone, that many of you are very young and have not researched the candidates as well as you should have.

Remember, voting is a PRIVILEGE. YOU are the one who says who's in and who's out. I urge each of you to vote with intelligence after MUCH research.

Personally, on the question of the thread - no, I will not vote for Ron Paul. Ron Paul wants to bring our troops on and quit the fight against terror - apparently he'd rather do it on the streets of New York. Hmmmm... kinda isolationist, don't ya think?

Matter of fact, it looks like we have very slim pickings again this year on ANY KIND of decent candidate.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see if those guys in Florida can figure out the ballots. ;)

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1. yes
2. because its not a very major issue, and its illegal now and most of us have limited problems...
3. 19, but if it helps you, I also am a national merit finalist (outperformed 99.9% of the nation on the PSAT as a SOPHOMORE in HS), I got a 34 on my ACT, a 1570 on my SAT, and im in college and follow politics religiously (no pun intended)
4. absolutely, i registered as soon as i hit 18 because i see how all the older people see the world, and very much disagree with the majority of them.

I know about the legislative branch, and the judicial branch, along with the executive.

Dont assume that just because he wants to legalize marijuana that we are all uneducated stoners who are only concerned with smoking pot legally, when we can do it already. its icing on the cake. and regardless of what you think, just because theres a balance of power doesnt mean that the president can do NOTHING to help us get to legalization. he may be a bit unrealistic, but he CAN help to influence the different branches, he can VETO BAD DRUG LAWS, he can even pardon big drug offenders who have been made examples of.

the three branches were put there to stop one branch from gaining too much power. if what you said is true, nothing would have ever gotten done in the country. We need a figurehead who represents what we as the citizens of the US believe in.

dont be so judgemental, it seems like youre assuming we are all idiots...

btw the war on terror is a joke. you know its the longest war in US history now, right? even longer than WWII? and with WWII we freed Europe from tyranny... what are we doing now? freeing middle eastern countries and their oil from... themselves? us? i mean damn, were getting nowhere, and our debt is already in the trillions... what do you think all the lenders are gonna think when we just keep accruing more debt? what do you think will happen to the dollar? our economy? its a folly to keep this war going, and its a dumb idea to WANT it to keep going. if we want to fight terror, we have to find a new kind of war, just like the terrorists have.

when throughout history has a "terrorist" plot been conceived, planned, trained for, and enacted on its target's soil? In this age of information and transportation, policing a country not because it is doing something wrong, but because some of its denizens have done something wrong, is totally and completely ridiculous. I could go on and on, but ad hominem remarks (especially in the realm of politics) get my blood boiling and i need go blow off some steam by blowing out some smoke.

whats peace? not living in a tarp, with duck tape, but having to shit in a cup
I shit in the cup instead, of pissed in a cup!!!! fuckers!

if they arent ever gonna take it off the arrest list

then quit that fucking drug testing shit!! ITS BULLSHIT MAN BULLSHIT! as she kicks the corner iron post!

all the ones gettin busted are the best dam workers this side of the delta!


jeeez

maybe everyone that takes one toke a day "come on down", we all need to come out ! everyone thats why the marijuana tax stamp law is here dah? Does anyone have a scoop on the mj tax law? Whered ya get one? online, (winks)
if we chain our asses to the court house and demand attention,
one meeting proposals,


Do we herb tokers, ya'll know who you are especially on a weed bb~ give the capital or whitehouse a contract? all they gotta do is sign it, we know what to do!

COZ I tell ya, the plant, is getting acrosse state lines, everywhere, in every state in america

we just picked up the sweetest herby ever! mmmmmmm fuck that growing crap thats for the birds!

Santas gettin in the wonkavator again!

aged 51 hubbys 40, FOR OLD STONER

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Originally Posted by naturelovinpuffer

I don't feel that we are EVER going to have universal health care I don't know if you have noticed but the government is just money hungry. I don't even think ron paul could get a act together about universal health care. America is NOT about the FAMILY and other people they are about themselves so i don't feel anyone can get universal health care for the US

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Ron Paul isn't for universal health care, he is for having a more open market for health care that will lower prices and improve the quality of service.

I support Ron Paul first and Obama second, cause Ron Paul stands for a more drastic change in the structure of the gov't.

he is very low in the polls (only about 3%) and i think its because the controlled media and big companies are doing their best and succeeding in silencing him, keeping his message from being heard and overall making him seem like a crazy old man. when in fact he knows more about the constitution and american rights than all the other republican candidates combined.

plus a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for legalization:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Snorbel

But his solution is less government, rather than good government. The last thing this nation needs is more dog-eat-dog, every-man-for-himself attitude. Makes for unfriendly people.

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I understand where you are coming from, years of big government has ingrained this idea that only the government can take care of Americans, rather than Americans taking care of Americans without the help of the government, which is what Ron Paul is about.

The government is incredibly inefficient, always has been and always will be, so it makes more sense to let people take care of each other, rather than rely on the government to do all of our charity deeds.

Also, remember that you cannot have success if you don't have the freedom to fail. Take away a person's ability to fall and he will never work hard enough to succeed, this is why socialism doesn't work.

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Originally Posted by Old Stoner

First question - would ANY of you who said you would vote for Ron Paul do so if he were ANTI-MARIJUANA?

Second question - Why?

Third question - What are your ages - the ones who want to vote for Ron Paul, and...

Fourth question - Are you registered to vote?

Now my take on this entire legalization issue.

Some of you fail to realize that Ron Paul, or ANY OTHER PERSON ELECTED PRESIDENT (not yelling, just EMPHASIZING!) - Well, whomever is elected president CAN NOT legalize Cannabis. Due to the fact in the next paragraph.

There is this little thing called the Legeslative Branch of our government to contend with. The United States Senate and the United States House of Representatives. THEY make the laws. NOT the president. These people are the ones you folks need to be a little more concerned over.

Get rid of the old farts, and bring in some new blood. Ted Kennedy is 188 years old. How in the world do we keep electing people who can't even say Barack Obama correctly? (Kennedy called him "Osama" Obama by "misspeak" awhile ago. Geez...

Sure, the president has the right to veto, but in actuality, he has little to say about the legalization of anything.

I read this entire thread, and it seems to me that, and NO offense to anyone, that many of you are very young and have not researched the candidates as well as you should have.

Remember, voting is a PRIVILEGE. YOU are the one who says who's in and who's out. I urge each of you to vote with intelligence after MUCH research.

Personally, on the question of the thread - no, I will not vote for Ron Paul. Ron Paul wants to bring our troops on and quit the fight against terror - apparently he'd rather do it on the streets of New York. Hmmmm... kinda isolationist, don't ya think?

Matter of fact, it looks like we have very slim pickings again this year on ANY KIND of decent candidate.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see if those guys in Florida can figure out the ballots. ;)

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I'm 21 & just graduated college

Marijuana legalization is not at all my major reason for supporting Ron Paul.
First of all, just because a person is in support of bringing the troops home in no way means that they arent for the fight against terrorism. it just means that there is no point in having young men and women, some right out of high school continually die over a war with no end in sight, and no sign of progress made

Ron Paul
.has never voted for a tax increase
.is for reformations to the healthcare industry (although not universal healthcare)
.is for amending income taxes and inflation taxes, meaning more money in the pockets of the working class
.he is for bringing troops home and improving foreign relation policies
. is against policing the world
. is for " commerce with all, allies with none"
. etc

dont come here on your high horse and think we're all a bunch of stoned slackers
YOU should do the research and see the truth for what it really is

I just read this article and thought it would be interesting for you pessimistic people saying Ron Paul could never do what he wants to once elected, don't worry, he's getting his allies ;) The revolution is on!

Congressional Hopeful Aims to Call Attention to Ron Paul's Candidacy

I see Sundance voted up on this thread :thumbsup: Rock on!