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bro what are u talking about man herb is already activated. im not sure what ur talking about. ive hit the vap a few times.
bummer deal on 'activating' or lacing bud. :( if youre smoking dank u shouldnt have to put stuff in ur nugs, keep it kind
DONNY:stoned:
I think you didnt take the time to really read this thread trainwreck.
The "activation" process is really not much more then properly curing the bud you are smoking. Its part of the reason why high quality bud doesnt get near as much effect from the process as mids and lows do.
The process's that are happening in the microwave/oven are the same things that happen over a longer period of time while curing your bud. People dont take the time to properly cure mids and low's, therefore, you can increase their potency by this method.
You arent putting anything into the weed. You are initiating a chemical reaction, which results in THCa being coverted into THC.
I would recommend to you that which I have said to everyone else... give it a try. You have nothing to lose, and everything to gain. Right now you are disregarding it without any proof that it wont work. So give it a try, and if it doesnt work, then you have the proof you need, if it does work, then you just found an incredible technique for use on mids and lows.
no it does something to the weed. the heat probably changes the structure of the thc chemically, giving a different high. a more 'stony' high maybe.
Heeyyy, I had to vote again; I tried it again, and with completely different results.
See, the cannabis I was using before was some high mids, so the effects weren't much different.
However, tonight I tried it with much different weed; it was complete shit weed, almost brown reggs that didn't even get me high. I was bored and decided to just throw it in the oven because I didn't really think anything was going to get me high until Tuesday when I get paid and can buy some more middies. However...I'm high now. Real high, off of two hits of that regg weed that I was smoking BOWLS of before to get a buzz.
I think it does work now, even though I don't want to believe it does, I have to admit I'm actually HIGH now.
ive activated my weed, sort of as a trial around a month back. just to see. i used some mids, i had an ounce total, but put 2grams in to use for a blunt. i used the microwave. in order to do the experiment well, i microwaved 2 grams and rolled a blunt. the day before, with the same ounce, i just rolled a blunt, didnt "activate it at all". my smoke buddys did not know about activation, or that i had done anything to the second blunt. the non activated blunt, after bieng smoked, all three of us were high, but just a normal mids high, nothing special. when i brought out the next blunt, of the activated mids the next day, and smoked it, all three of us were blasted off of our asses, and we smoke a 40 bag of mids (7.1grams) in a day easy. easily smoke over an ounce of mids a week. well, i figured i might have a placebo effect because i knew what i had done to the weed, but my two friends, said they were 1'st time high again. i truely believe it works, and works well. try it, even if its just a bowls worth, to see for yourself!
I did this twice since reading this thread. The first time I sat there in the dark chewing gum for 2 hours. Second I dont even remember. Definitely made these middies better.
ok im a little confused. heat deteriorates THC. so how does this work? you said something about curing.
im glad to see you guys arent lacing your shit :thumbsup: haahaha!!
this interests me. sure, i smoke really KIND bud. but i also buy 'outdoor' midgrade. its cheaper. dont get me wrong its stony, just not killer. so id like 2 learn more. peace
DONNY:stoned:
Depends of the amount of heat, and the time you heat it. Heating it for much time (several hours), or too much (more than 200C or 392F), will indeed destroy some thc.
But, heating it for small periods of time, of at "low" (<350F) temperatures wont do any harm to it.
And, about the curing: the process of curing allows the THCA to be transformed in THC naturally. But it takes a long time, so we make it faster heating the weed.
Note that high-grade weed, or well-cured weed will not have its potency much increased by this process, as its already cured. But, with mids, or homegrown, this process works wonders!
Try it, and im sure you will enjoy it. And good luck! :thumbsup:
All decarboxylation means is drying and curing. That's why it is most noticeable with fresh/wet weed. Decarboxylation occurs naturally as you dry your weed. You can heat it up if you want to decarboxylate faster.
This quote is from Ed Rosenthal and can be found here:
Decarboxylation
Here's some more:Quote:
Marijuana produces THCA, an acid with the carboxylic group (COOH) attached. In its acid form, THC is not very active. It is only when the carboxyl group is removed that THC becomes psychoactive. When marijuana is smoked, the THC behind the hot spot is vaporized as the hot air from the burn is drawn through the joint or pipe bowl to the unburned material. The liquid THC and other cannabinoids have a boiling point of between 180-200° C (355-392° F). Before they turn gaseous, at around 106° C (220° F), the carboxyl group is released from the molecule as carbon dioxide and water vapor.
You will be extracting the THC using low heat in the commercially made Coldfinger Extractor. (They have a very interesting online catalog at *edited out commercial site*). The THC will not reach a temperature in which decarboxylation takes place. However, if you plan to vaporize or smoke the extract decarboxylation will take place as the oil is used.
However, it is easy to make sure all the THC is decarboxylated and is at full strength before it is extracted. Although decarboxylation takes place rapidly at 106° C, it proceeds at a more gradual pace by placing the cannabis in a room with low relative humidity and room temperature. As the temperature rises, the rate of decarboxylation increases.
Cannabis can also be placed in a food dehydrator to remove the carboxyl group. Although the heat in the food dehydrator doesn't rise to 106° C, the temperature is warm enough to promote drying and the release of the water and CO2. When the marijuana is crispy and brittle you can be assured that the carboxyl group has been removed from the cannabinoids and they are ready for extraction or removal from the plant material.
Frequently asked questions
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# Franjo Grotenhermen
In the plant the cannabinoids exist mainly in their carboxylic forms as cannabinoid acids. However, the phenolic form of THC is responsible for the psychotropic and the most medicinal effects. Decarboxylation (separation of CO2) to the phenolic form occurs readily over time, upon heating or under alkaline conditions.
The ratio of THC acids (THCA) to phenolic THC has been reported to range between 2:1 (Africa) and >20:1 (Switzerland) in leaves and flowers of Cannabis sativa. In plants grown in Middle Europe (United Kingdom) from Moroccan, Sri Lankan and Zambian seed stocks the THCA/THC ratio was 17:1 compared with 2:1 in the plants from the original areas (Africa, Asia). In hashish (cannabis resin) the THCA/THC ratio was reported to range between 6.1:1 and 0.5:1, the latter in hashish from India. Thus, the percentage of phenolic THC of all THC in cannabis products varied between less than 5% in cannabis leaves grown in Switzerland up to 65% in hashish from India.
Cannabis products with a high content of phenolic THC (e.g. hashish) may be very potent without heating, but usually the potency of cannabis products is considerably increased with heating (smoking, cooking).
Modified according to: Grotenhermen F. Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of cannabinoids. Clinical Pharmacokinetics 2001, in press.
it definatly works. just put it in the microwave for 10 seconds then in the freezer for 15, itll come out bone dry, and you will get more high cause after it dries out it should bust up pretty fat. definatly gets more out of your weed if its damp at all