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People also think that life may not be native to earth, but that it may have come from somewhere else. They think it may have come on a comet or something like that that hit the earth.
It is possible for live to live on a comet. These thing are called extremeophiles, and they can handle very intense conditions.
Why hasn't this thread devolved into silly pictures of lolcats yet?
I dunno if anyone posted this already, but I read somewhere, that the universe keeps expanding, until it's stretched so much, that it colapses onto itself, aka. another big bang.. This will happen forever and ever and ever and ever..
The article I read was alot more complex, but that should give you the basics..:)
I totaly get this theroy too like some one said somewhere on the second page they are finding bones where they are not soposed to be. This proves we did not come from apes, if they have found human bones not neanderthal or yeti but human in the time where their should have been no humans, this proves we did not come from apes, the best Idea I have heard to support the theroy of evolution was. "Those Monkeys were stupid they didnt follows us and look at them now" and life is all over our univers just not walking around and tryin to conntact us.....as far as we know oh and M Theroy look it upQuote:
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druing the age where neanderthals where around, there was another evolutionary type of humans, who acoriding to all artifacts and bones where intelectually superior to us, in that they had a larger brain with a massive frontal lobe, much like the statues on easter island. it is thought that during one of the ice ages where both species roamed, that us homo erectus managed to domesticate dogs to such a standard that we used them to hunt. apparently this was our winning edge over the impending snow and ability to find food.
the evolutionary chain is not really a chain,it is more a web based on trial and error. therefore it is likely that there were many alpha and beta types of every animal and being on this planet that never made the cut. darwinism and all.
it is evolutionary possible to trace humans back all the way to well if you wanted to amobe in the primordial soup.
natureisawesome. THERE IS NO TANGIBLE EVIDENCE FOR CREATIONISM WHAT SO EVER !!??!!
what is your proof ?
lol it is funny too because of how much the universe is expanding, and how long it take light to get to us, what we see in space, is mostly billions of years ago
No evidence for creation whatsoever???
Why don't you go look in the mirror.
Do you just want me to start listing all the evidence, because that might take me the rest of my life.
We both have the same evidence, but we have different interpretations of that evidence because of two different worldviews. The Bible says that faith in God is foolishness to man. It says the faith of the gospel is foolishness to the gentiles. Man will believe in what his own crooked mind has devised, but he will hardly consider believing in God. Which is hypocricy, because even evolution requires belief! So as I've pointed out before, If you say I don't have any evidence because it's not all conclusive, well then right back at you! But the evidence we do have fits with creation, and just about everything your teachers taught you about evolution in high school was rejected by leading evolutionists themselves years and years and years ago. But they keep teaching it to your children (just like in communist countries, isn't that interesting), because they don't have anything else to stand on! That's why many leading evolutionists have rejected long periods for evolution and now are devising crackpot theories of spontaneous evolution. It couldn't have taken millions of years, because the evidence doesn't show that, so It must have happened real quick. And all this was way back in the eighties, and if you don't know about this, then go do some studying before anyone call me ignorant.
Here is a short thing to say, but in real application it is HUGE. All dna in living species is absolute evidence creation of God, because the laws of the universe, specifically the laws of thermodynamics, would not and do not allow organisms to form from basic elements. There are several other laws that would help to keep this from happening, and even though it's already been shown to be absolutely totally statistically impossible over 20 years ago, teachers and professors still preach that garbage like it's a fact over and over, because if people really started having some skepticism, then evolution would be exposed as the simple minded corrupt fantasy it really is. Not only would the laws of nature not allow evolution to happen, but according to evolution, changes that happen to dna are random, and therefore cannot create the order neccessary to survive and develop into intracate organisms and creatures fit to survive and flourish. And in reality there is no mechanism in nature that causes an organism to "adapt" to stimuli in nature. There just isn't, and even darwin himself criticized this preposterous idea. If most people knew what darwin hypothesised to cause macroevolution he would never again be seen as leading figure. He would be seen as the fool he really was.
Aside from the things I pointed out earlier as things that fit with a creationist model, there are many other evidences.
Man and woman being alive at the same time. This is probably one of, if not the biggest attacks to evolution and one of the greatest evidences of God. To say man evolved is one thing, but then woman evolved too, in the same time period with the capability to magically fit mans ingredibly complex sex organs and reproduce? And all this had to happen in short enough time before they died. Man and woman fit well together, remarkably I might add, and evolutionists are dead silent on this issue. You can say man took millions of years to evolve, but all along that time he had to have been able to reproduce, but this would in evolutionary theory, take millions and millions of years. But it's all silly, and even man evolving alone is almost as silly. Perhaps someone might say that they developed sex organs earlier on hen they were simpler organisms. Oh really?? Well, beside the fact that that still totally couldn't have happened because even simple organisms reproduction systems are incredibly complex, it only poses a slightly smaller challange than before, and even if it did happen, when the creatures evolved into higher species, both sexes would have had to evolve higher in conjunction in every generation.
I'm going to stop right there because I want to point out something very important. There is a lot of material evidence that fits with creation. But something I believe just as or more important is another kind of evidence. This is evidence that's not just numbers or rocks or bones. The bible says that:
" the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse "
What does this mean in practical application? It means that God created everything through his divine inspiration, that through his creation he's revealed his nature. But these things simply cannot be anylized in test tubes or carbon dated because these things are ETERNAL. The order that he's created and his creation show his love. And you can see it everywhere from the relationship a man has to a wife, father to son, mother to daughter. Think of the natural balance in the relationship between woman and man. Think of the conscience we have within ourselves, which show a reflection of God's nature, and reveal our need for a relationship with him. And I could go on. Honestly though, it's so hard to talk about those things, because it's so mysterious. But If you look at the order of the heavens and earth, how the grass grows for us to walk on, and the trees give food for us to eat, and in the sky the clouds float above us, and beyond the stars fill the universe. When I consider the order and beauty, and it all just fits so well, and I recognise God's workmanship, albeit sealed up in a mystery.
I suggest you go check out some articles on this website:
Answers in Genesis - Creation, Evolution, Christian Apologetics
make it legal said:
QUOTE]I'm sorry but that makes no sense to me. Why would he do that? What about allllllll the other planets he created? He doesn't care about them or the life they may support? Why go through the trouble of creating EVERYTHING if he's not going to use it?[/QUOTE]
I think he is using it. To impress us mostly, and show us how powerful and awesome he is. Have you ever camped out under the stars on a really clear night, and it ll just feels so huge, and you sit back and think about how your staring into the universe on a giant rock floating and spinning through space at thousands of miles an hour. Pretty powerful.
Also the angels have a lot better view than we do, and they worship him too.
And not to mention that God is a master artist.
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Do you really take everything in the Bible literally?
Not everything is meant to be taken literally. But generally, if it says plainly "such and such happened" yes I believe it. Prophecy though, for example, has much symbolism.
There is nothing, absolutely nothing in God's word that has been proven wrong. I've read through the Word and I can't remember it ever saying the earth is the center of the universe, or that the earth is flat. Those errors were made by men, not God's word.Quote:
What about the things that have been proven without doubt to be wrong, for example; earth being the center of the universe.
But it turns out we are actually pretty close to the center of the universe as I pointed out before.
Eh, I don't think so. Anything with the words "templar" tends to make me wary. Maybe I'll check out the description.Quote:
I suggest you read a book called "The Last Templar.
To put it bluntly, because everything fits, and I will not deny the Truth.Quote:
One last food for thought: There are soooo many religions in the world, most of them conflicting each other. Everybody believes theirs to be right. Everybody's can't be right though, obviously, so what makes you so sure yours and the right one?
Here's one last food of thought for you. I hear the same objection to Christianity and religion over and over. Among these are " religion is just a form of mind/people control" and "religion hurts more people than it helps" and "religions causes so many wars".
How is it that so many people are so quick to judge the religion by the actions of wicked people? Yes, I believe Christianity has been used a form of mind/people control, and I believe that evil people in high places in religion have used it for selfish and evil purposes. I believe that many (almost all actually) practicing Christians and many many other followers of other religions have done very much harm and gotten into lots of wars.
BUt how does this compare with what Jesus and the bible teach?
Didn't Jesus say that most people were going to hell and would act wickedly? yes he did.
Didn't he say that there would be many would call them selves Christian but they really weren't? Yes he did.
And do the actions of almost all Christians fit with the rightousness taught in scripture? No way, they're corrupt, lost in darkness.
But the truth is that so many people refuse to recognise this because to do that would be to recognise God's righteousness, and people don't want to see that. My main point is, don't blame Christianty for what a lot of evil so called Christians did.
I think you also mentioned something about meteors bringing life from outer space.
For rocks to travel from another planet to earth carrying life, or vice versa, the rocks would have to be ejected with the force of a meteor impact, travel for extended periods of time, and be subjected to cosmic radiation. These factors make it highly unlikely that a life form could make the trip. It is remotely possible that there may be life present on nearby planets if the life was ??seeded? from earth. The SETI project, which listens for intelligent signals from outer space, and the recent Mars missions have failed to introduce any evidence. Astrobiology remains a science with no data to support it.
In any case, even if this proved to be remotely possible, think about something else. Even if life came from a meteor, it would have had to evolve on another planet first. So you're really right back at the drawing board.
What are lolcats?
Ok, so what about before man, when alllll those other creatures had that complicated genetalia that allowed the male and female to fit...
what about male and female PLANTS that have parts that FIT
everything FITS in nature, there's a beautiful balance and symetry that was probably born of the big bang... to a ying, there's a yang. To men, there's a woman. To a dick, there's a vagina, and to a Creationist, there is an Evolutionist.
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