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You can keep this type of slam the hell off the forums for the first thing!Quote:
Originally Posted by D.Boone
FACT IS my uncle lost his house and his truck due to outstanding taxes so don't be handing people this crap on how they don't have to pay. It'll be their ass withoout their goods while YOUR sitting on the other side of a monitor preaching this shit.
Worked out for Willie Nelson too didn't it?
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
well i didnt know that man sorry to upset you and im upset to hear that the government unlawfully took you fathers possessions. all im trying to do is help bring down a corrupt government system and there are millions of other americans who are doing the same. just thought id point that out. and honestly i think willie nelson would side with me on this one
IRS Collections
Willie Nelson Sings for IRS
By: A.J. Cook
What if you don't have the money to pay your income taxes?
Don't panic. Send what you can and file your return anyway. This will avoid the penalty for filing late. Work out the money details later.
Willie Nelson couldn't pay the Internal Revenue Service and just recently cut a cool deal. His sad song began after he invested in several tax shelters promising $10 in deductions for every $1 invested. Instead of the deductions, he got a tax bill for more than $16 million. The IRS sold his ranch and auctioned his belongings. To keep the agency at bay, he gave it a royalty interest in his album, Who'll Buy My Memories? (The IRS Tapes).
The agency collected $3.6 million from sales of this album and his other assets. At last report, Nelson settled the debt by agreeing to pay only an additional $9 million over the next five years. Not a bad deal for the singer -- $12.6 million for a $16 million debt.
Nelson's settlement probably results from a new IRS policy favoring agreements with taxpayers. With uncollected taxes rising, it expects this policy to boost collections while giving taxpayers a fresh start. But IRS officers are tough negotiators. Don't assume they will settle when they can reasonably get the full amount. They'll expect you to sell that vacant lot and those 10 shares of AT&T.
If you file your return without full payment, the IRS will bill you for taxes and interest and add a late payment penalty, but not a late filing penalty. When you call the telephone number on the bill to explain your situation, the IRS officer will probably ask for a list of your assets and debts. She may insist you borrow the money or start sending in part of your paycheck. If the value of your assets and your earning potential are small compared to the taxes owed, try to settle on a reduced amount or suggest an installment payment plan.
In any case don't try to outsmart the IRS. If you lose credibility, it might seize and sell something you own. You don't want that. The IRS has no obligation to sell the asset for more than the agency's selling costs, e.g., advertising and real estate commissions. Diona S. Ringer received no credit to her tax debt when the government sold her $40,000 home for its costs -- $1,725.
The IRS can seize all of a delinquent taxpayer's assets except furniture, personal effects, professional books, tools and some wages. You might ask, is anything sacred? Not much.
By all accounts Ehsanolla Motaghed, from Omaha, Nebraska, owed the IRS $156,000. The agency heard he died, but before writing the debt off, it wanted to do some checking: Was he really dead? Is that really his corpse in the grave?
Fortunately the government backed down on exhuming the body when his family protested. The estate's attorney criticized the IRS, "They're just mad because he had the audacity to die without settling his account."
The Moral: When the IRS has you dead to rights, you're dead.
A.J. Cook is a lawyer and CPA. His tax column appears weekly in numerous newspapers. Why isn't it published in your hometown newspaper? Ask its Business Editor to subscribe.
Willie Nelson Sings for IRS
Here's a VERY good example on how this law doesn't exist. Somebody with the resources of Willie still ended up loosing out on his property not to mention FORCED to pay a portion of back taxes.
Have a good one!:s4:
thats kinda my point there they like to go after high profile people and people who are poor who dont have the resources to fight back. the irs really has no right to take assets away from an individual but the government has given them the right of imminent domain which basically means they can do w/e they want and dont have to answer to anybody. even the f.b.i. fears the irs. ask an fbi agent about the tax code. they will tell you that its not very specific and there isnt really anything in there saying we have to pay federal income taxes or they will seize or property its just not there
Tell that to Willie...I'm sure it'll make him feel much better. If you want to promote this fine but DON'T be encouraging people in this forum not to pay their shit.....they'll be the ones having to battle it out. AT LEAST make that VERY clear that they are in for the fight of their lives and will probably end up paying in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by D.Boone
By the way, I watched the flick and I'll bet that the people that made it are currently paying their taxes or lieing out their asses on how they're not.
Have a good one!:s4:
im not encouraging anybody im just trying to get the facts out to the public i think most like minded people can make the decisions for themselves.
This interests me, as I'll soon have to start paying taxes it seems. I hate the current corrupt government with a passion. I love America (the country), so I'm not being unpatriotic when I say I hate the government. They are ruining it for others in my opinion, and it's all so corrupt. They are making me HATE living in this country, which is sad for me, because it's such a beautiful country, with politics and humans aside.
I for one AM encouraging EVERYBODY to STOP paying your income taxes. Civil disobedience and revolution are the only ways things ever change.
dont let p4b hear you say that he may just ban you.Quote:
Originally Posted by sam44