Executing Mentally Retarded People

I CANT BELIEVE SOME OF THE THINGS I AM HEARING HERE...

LOOK AT ALL THE ADVANCEMENTS IN NEUROSURGERY STEM CELL THERAPY..

PERHAPS SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE THE RETARDED MY BE HELPED

ALSO MANY MENTALLY RETARDED PEOPLE HAVE SPECIAL ABILITIES.....

I REALIZE THAT THE COST IS HIGH TO ALL BUT WHAT IF IT WAS YOUR KID??

COME ON JESUS CHRIST .... FUCK, PEOPLE...... :mad:

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Originally Posted by FrenchInhale

Ok well I got this idea from juggalo and I feel it is sort of a religous/moral question... How do you guys feel about executing people who are retarded....

Personally I feel that if someone commits a crime worthy of execution be they mentally retarded or not they should be killed... the fact that someone is retarded doesn't change the fact that they killed someone... you do the crime you do the time/execution weither you be retarded or not.

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Answer it yourself. Confusing? Yea I know,. Look.

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Get it? Nope.

Opens alot of doors that are best left with neckties on the knobs (get it people inside are getting fucked, ok ok never mind)

But seriously, here is a simple line of logic I have on execution.

America is a christian nation (I dont mean all its people are christian, but it is founded on christian beliefs, in god we trust and all that)
One of the ten commandments is THOU SHALT NOT KILL.
America is committing a deadly sin so frequently they have developed machines that make it more "hands-off" and easier to clean up afterwards so they can do it more and faster.
Now I know in the old testament there are also rules about an eye for an eye, a slave (serf, servant, peon, whatever) for a prize bull and all that shit, but Jesus cast those laws down, and said desire of a woman other then your wife is the same as laying with her, and is adultery (comes back to intention now AGAIN, in yet ANOTHER religeon, but I digress). So what intention is being acted upon in that wonderous christian nation of opportunity? Justice/vengence (depends on what side your on again huhn...) protection, or is it just more cost effective to kill someone then to feed them for life.

Know your enemy, your enemy is subversion of beliefs, its never ok to kill a human being, especially when its not self defense, i mean the guy is strapped to a fuckign table and has a needle shoved into his arm, after being fed a last meal with chemicals to activate the powerful sedatives tehy have been feeding him for a week. (they swab the spot just in case he gets an infection i suppose) its not like hes coming at you with a brick and you have to open him and feel his blood while its still warm spurting on you. Yeah not as easily to talk about killing someone when you think of thier still beating heart pumping warm blood out the holes you put into them.
There really is not point killing someone for committing any crime, no matter how heinous, protecting society is what justice really is.

Mentally retarded and clinically insane are two completely different things. A mentally retarded person is someone with a subnormal IQ, whether through a birth defect or a brain injury or whatever.

A person who is clinically insane is often quite intelligent, but is missing a key part of their personality or something. Schizophrenia is the classic insanity, the cause of people's dogs telling them to kill people or someone imagining himself to be the King of Siam. Serial killers are often very intelligent, but something is miswired somewhere and they are addicted to ritualistic killing. I say ritualistic not because it's Satanic or anything, although in some cases it can be, but because serial killers usually have a specific type of victim and a specific way they like to kill. Ted Bundy killed young men and boys through, I believe, strangulation. BTK killed only women and his nickname (short for Bind, Torture, Kill) reflected how he killed his victims.

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Originally Posted by juggalo420

tottaly agree, i think life is to precious, and i dont want the goverment murdering in my name, also i believe people can reform and change even murders. some people say its justice to the victim to execute the murder, but i think we can advance as a specise from that eye for an eye mentality.

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If the U.S. did away with the death penalty and announced a new policy involving more hands-on work with convicts to help them reform themselves and "change" then do you know what would happen?

I do. I guarantee the homicide rate in the U.S. would more than double. Hell, if I knew that I could kill someone and just have to do some time, there would be some people I would like to off.

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Originally Posted by FrenchInhale

If the U.S. did away with the death penalty and announced a new policy involving more hands-on work with convicts to help them reform themselves and "change" then do you know what would happen?

I do. I guarantee the homicide rate in the U.S. would more than double. Hell, if I knew that I could kill someone and just have to do some time, there would be some people I would like to off.

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not one study proves that the death penalty is a deterant.

and maybe the reason you'd kill someone if you wouldnt face the death penalty is because you have no conscience.

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Originally Posted by Canadabis

Opens alot of doors that are best left with neckties on the knobs (get it people inside are getting fucked, ok ok never mind)

But seriously, here is a simple line of logic I have on execution.

America is a christian nation (I dont mean all its people are christian, but it is founded on christian beliefs, in god we trust and all that)
One of the ten commandments is THOU SHALT NOT KILL.
America is committing a deadly sin so frequently they have developed machines that make it more "hands-off" and easier to clean up afterwards so they can do it more and faster.
Now I know in the old testament there are also rules about an eye for an eye, a slave (serf, servant, peon, whatever) for a prize bull and all that shit, but Jesus cast those laws down, and said desire of a woman other then your wife is the same as laying with her, and is adultery (comes back to intention now AGAIN, in yet ANOTHER religeon, but I digress). So what intention is being acted upon in that wonderous christian nation of opportunity? Justice/vengence (depends on what side your on again huhn...) protection, or is it just more cost effective to kill someone then to feed them for life.

Know your enemy, your enemy is subversion of beliefs, its never ok to kill a human being, especially when its not self defense, i mean the guy is strapped to a fuckign table and has a needle shoved into his arm, after being fed a last meal with chemicals to activate the powerful sedatives tehy have been feeding him for a week. (they swab the spot just in case he gets an infection i suppose) its not like hes coming at you with a brick and you have to open him and feel his blood while its still warm spurting on you. Yeah not as easily to talk about killing someone when you think of thier still beating heart pumping warm blood out the holes you put into them.
There really is not point killing someone for committing any crime, no matter how heinous, protecting society is what justice really is.

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i can hands on kill every pedofile
every rapist


when i think of certian people existing i can in fact KIll them
example
eric webb
we call him acid head
he raped his granny and did a few years in prison
if anyone needed a hot needle its this sick fucker
so the death penalty aint the problem
its those who controll who gets it
court system is crooked and thats just the facts
yaw dont blame a tool for its damage
blame the fools using them
peace

lets make executions public again.something horrible too.burnt at the stake,crucifixtion,something long and brutal.maybe people would think twice.naaaa,i doubt it.

anyone seen the movie "i am sam"? one of you watch that movie and then try and say that retards deserve to die i bet you it will make you cry like a little bitch

saw the movie,penn did a great job.i believe life in prison is worse than the death penalty anyway.