For those to whom it has NOT worked......are you guys measuring the temp of what you are COOKING ......or the oven temp? It's better imho to measure the temp of what is BEING COOKED vs oven themp.
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For those to whom it has NOT worked......are you guys measuring the temp of what you are COOKING ......or the oven temp? It's better imho to measure the temp of what is BEING COOKED vs oven themp.
agreed. Like most others here I'm throwing this together true stoner style- whatever is available. That said, to my credit I did buy a meat thermometer but I suspect the oil cools too fast once removed from the oven to obtain an accurate reading. I tried leaving it in but it exploded and leaked. I suspect I'm having trouble because I'm using a toaster oven and not a slow cooker. Either there is too much thermal loss through the door to maintain heat transfer, or more likely; the heating coils in the oven cause the inside temps to surge above the thermostat setting every time they come on and overheat my mix...
I do know one friend of mine who measured both and found a difference between the oven temp and the mixture temp of about 50 degrees so it could make a difference. Something to think about anyway.
if your doing the mixing bowl and pan method how long do u cook it for if youre using bud :rastasmoke:Quote:
Originally Posted by Flameon
Hey m your coconut oil looks fine to me. I've tried everything from olive oil (average) to peanut oil (not recommended) to coconut oil (:thumbsup:) I don't really think its a crime if it's not EXTRA VIRGIN. ;)
okay so i made some too last night, i used 1.5 grams of some good bud. When you use bud is the color of the oil supposed to be lime green when cooled off??? i left in the crock pot on low for 2 hours and did everything proper. I took 1 at first and didnt feel much so i took another and got the same results. 6 pills later:eat: i felt that i must have done something wrong or maybe i need to put more MJ in. So can anyone help me out???? I mean i had the giggles like a mofo :S2:and drank some beer and even smoked but i felt i should have been having a radical trip. Can someone maybe point me in the right direction :hippy: thanks
I'm out of supplies for right now but I'm not given up because I know this is sound and proven science. That means if it's not working, as much as I'd hate to admit it sometimes, it HAS to be my fault... I'm certain the problem is the toaster oven. I bet it gets up to temp just fine, but as soon as the temp drops those coils fire up again until the thermostat inside matches the stt temperature on the outside of the unit. Unfortunately, I'm going to bet that the coils aren't programmed to come on at a partial power setting when this occurrs so I'd bet they just come on full power at 1000watts or whatever, and once the inside of the oven heats up to temp they shut off. It wouldn't surprise me if this causes the inside temperatures to surge over the vaporization point intermittently and cause a dramatic loss of potency. I need to either get a crock pot or find something else.
Speaking of something else, I had heard of others using coffee mugs for the oil and placing them in shallow water inside the crock pot. Had anyone thought about Keeping the coffee mug and losing the crock pot? You could put the oil in the coffee mug and use a coffee mug warmer plate like this one? http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/602-5808638-9820638?ASIN=B000CO89T8&AFID=Froogle&LNM=B000CO89T 8|Mr._Coffee_Mug_Warmer__MWBLK&ci_src=14110944&ci_ sku=B000CO89T8&ref=tgt_adv_XSG10001 I'm trying to find out what temperature range these things operate at. I cvan't find specifications posted for the 102V 'Mr. Coffee' model, but their are a bunch of models which plug into USB which operate on 50-60C. I'm pretty sure this isn't hot enough but I'm also assuming the units which are powered by a wall socket will get hotter because the USB models are limited by the 5V rating of the bus, and the low current levels it is capable to deliver. Remember- a USB port is not a 'proper' power supply.
All these issues about temperature have caused me to ask this question of anyone ho can give me a reliable answer: What is the acceptable temperature range for simmering? My understanding is that it only needs to meet two criteria: Stay below the vaporization point (275F) at ALL COSTS and remain warm enough to keep the oil in liquid state. Is this correct or does the oil need to melt, AND reach a higher minimum temperature, or is the MINIMUM temperature at which this extraction point will work the same or below the melting point of the oil?
Since the magic number for this recipe seems to be 90C or 200F I figured the coffee warmer plate would be perfect because it is designed to keep a beverage which begins at 212F close to it's original temperature, but such a device is also exclusively designed to NOT boil the beverage placed on its surface...
Anyone know what the MINIMUM temperature is to get this to work?
I'm out of supplies for right now but I'm not given up because I know this is sound and proven science. That means if it's not working, as much as I'd hate to admit it sometimes, it HAS to be my fault... I'm certain the problem is the toaster oven. I bet it gets up to temp just fine, but as soon as the temp drops those coils fire up again until the thermostat inside matches the stt temperature on the outside of the unit. Unfortunately, I'm going to bet that the coils aren't programmed to come on at a partial power setting when this occurrs so I'd bet they just come on full power at 1000watts or whatever, and once the inside of the oven heats up to temp they shut off. It wouldn't surprise me if this causes the inside temperatures to surge over the vaporization point intermittently and cause a dramatic loss of potency. I need to either get a crock pot or find something else.
Speaking of something else, I had heard of others using coffee mugs for the oil and placing them in shallow water inside the crock pot. Had anyone thought about Keeping the coffee mug and losing the crock pot? You could put the oil in the coffee mug and use a coffee mug warmer plate like this one? http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/602-5808638-9820638?ASIN=B000CO89T8&AFID=Froogle&LNM=B000CO89T 8|Mr._Coffee_Mug_Warmer__MWBLK&ci_src=14110944&ci_ sku=B000CO89T8&ref=tgt_adv_XSG10001 I'm trying to find out what temperature range these things operate at. I cvan't find specifications posted for the 102V 'Mr. Coffee' model, but their are a bunch of models which plug into USB which operate on 50-60C. I'm pretty sure this isn't hot enough but I'm also assuming the units which are powered by a wall socket will get hotter because the USB models are limited by the 5V rating of the bus, and the low current levels it is capable to deliver. Remember- a USB port is not a 'proper' power supply.
All these issues about temperature have caused me to ask this question of anyone ho can give me a reliable answer: What is the acceptable temperature range for simmering? My understanding is that it only needs to meet two criteria: Stay below the vaporization point (275F) at ALL COSTS and remain warm enough to keep the oil in liquid state. Is this correct or does the oil need to melt, AND reach a higher minimum temperature, or is the MINIMUM temperature at which this extraction point will work the same or below the melting point of the oil?
Since the magic number for this recipe seems to be 90C or 200F I figured the coffee warmer plate would be perfect because it is designed to keep a beverage which begins at 212F close to it's original temperature, but such a device is also exclusively designed to NOT boil the beverage placed on its surface...
Anyone know what the MINIMUM temperature is to get this to work?
At the risk of implying we are anywhere NEAR "the Flameon of Knowledge" but have you read our thread? In that thread also is a link to ANOTHER capsule thread to try as well.
Good luck guys.
Oops.......almost forgot.........http://boards.cannabis.com/concentra...-s-recipe.html
Ok, first I'm going to reply to mspofford032579, who didn't have any luck... Dude, you are using WAY too much oil. You should NOT see a distinctive line between the weed and the oil. I know because I started out with exactly the same way. Ok, now I'll just relate my latest experience.
History: You can go back and look at some of my posts, but here is the gist. I've done a fair bit of experimenting. I've even just put the oil in a pan on the stove and thrown in the weed. Yes, it works, no it isn't better.
I thought I had reached a pretty good point to where I was getting a nice buzz from a reasonable amount of weed. I once wasted 3.5 grams of weed by using too much oil. So, I thought, let's just use the bare minimum oil to make the weed soggy.
I use a small, metal muffin pan, you know, that you can pour batter into and make small muffins? Ok, so previously, my end product would look just like mspofford032579's. All the weed settled to the bottom and an equal, or more, layer of oil on top. This worked for me ok, but when I used less oil I had MUCH BETTER results.
I heat up the oil and then dump in the weed until the weed reaches the top of the oil. I know it's the right amount when there is no free-flowing layer of oil at the top. You want the consistency to be mushy THROUGHOUT the mix. NO EXTRA OIL!
Ok, so this method was working great for me. I had been cooking small amounts, like 1 gram or so and it was working ok. I got tired of cooking all the time, so this last time I decided to cook 6 grams. The first time I cooked it, the results were just ok and I realized I had used too much oil. So, I added weed to get the right consistency and cooked it again for 2.5 hours.
I do this in a locked metal cabinet in my garage to keep it out of sight from my kids. I tell you this because it gets cold at night and this affects the temperature in the crockpot. So, after the second cooking, I opened up the cabinet and realized that I had left the lid off of the crockpot, thereby not trapping the heat inside. I didn't even sample the result because I knew that it couldn't have been hot enough to really cook at all.
So, I secured the lid and cooked another 2.5 hours. The next day I ate a normally sized chunk AND GOT COMPLETELY, UTTERLY, FUCKING WASTED OUT OF MY MIND!!!!! Normally I could take this much and function around my family just fine and nobody would be the wiser. Dudes, I'm here to tell you that I had to go hide in my bedroom and pretend to be sick because I was unable to function around other humans!
The next day I took half of that and it was still way too much. Yesterday I took a quarter of that and it was a little bit too much. I can't fucking believe it. I'm now eating like 1/2 of a teaspoon or less and getting a GREAT buzz. The 6 grams that I cooked up could be broken up into about 18 pieces, each of which will get you a great buzz. Take two and you'll be on the verge of not functioning in society. Take 3 or more and you'll be a jiggling pile of jelly!
My main complaint about the capsules was that I had to use A LOT of weed to get the same effect that I could get when vaporizing. That is no longer the case. I think I can actually use LESS weed to get more high now by eating. By the way, I did away with the capsules. They're great if you want to carry it somewhere, but don't let it get warm because it'll melt right out of the capsule. I just cut off a chunk, crunch it up with my front teeth and swallow it with water. Works great.
Ok, so here's my problem. I'm not exactly sure what the secret formula was. :( The first and most obvious thing is that I cooked it three times. The next variable is that it has been getting warmer here because of spring, and I'm certain that the temp inside the crockpot was higher than normal. The first time I cooked, the oil turned green. The second time was (seemingly) a bust because I left the lid off and the oil was still green. The last time, the oil was brownish green (heavier on the brown). I did not monitor the temperature throughout the process, but I did note that the max temp when heating the oil alone was 300F.
I'm REALLY REALLY REALLY hoping that I can reproduce this result because it is amazing. All I can tell you is to keep trying. Try different amounts, different temperatures, different times and see what happens. I thought I had gotten the process as good as it could get and then I made a mistake and learned that I was SERIOUSLY missing out. Here's my next experiment...
1) Good consistency...mushy and no freestanding oil. If you can tilt the pan or bowl or whatever and the see the oil flowing across the top, it's too much.
2) Cook at the normal temp for 2.5 hours with the lid on.
3) Cook with the lid off for 2.5 hours.
4) Cook with the lid on for 2.5 hours.
This replicates what I did before. I hope like hell that it works again. Most likely, the period with the lid off is not necessary. I'm tempted to try cooking for 7 hours with the lid on, but hey if it ain't broke, don't fix it! LOL
I am very afraid that there is a "magic" temperature range and I will never know what it is. The fact that I was cooking in the garage in the cold and now it's warmer tells me that the temp was higher, but I'll never know for sure what it was.
I'll report back.
PS- I have now determined that it is NOT POSSIBLE to not get high from this shit (when cooked right). I don't care how often you smoke or what tolerances you have. I eat or vape every day and I don't think I've ever been that high in my life.