Why God does not exist, in one sentence.
Also, I posted those quotes because you didn't believe that the bible was sexist, so I showed you. I didn't forget any important ones. I just wanted to show you that there are many, not to show all of them in a single post. That post would be very, very, very long. Well, now you know why your wife believes in the bible, even with its obvious sexism. It's either because she hasn't read those parts, or have done what you did, and justified the support of it with ludicrous things like "I believe that God is righteous in his judgements, even though it can involve the massacre of a whole town, or chopping up people into little pieces."
Why God does not exist, in one sentence.
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Originally Posted by mfqr
So, if you cursed at your mother or father for any reason, you think it would be righteous for you to be put to death over it? That's not righteousness, that's insanity, my friend. A benevolent, righteous God would not demand people to be put to death over such trivial and simple matters. It's completely ridiculous, and it's even harder for me to believe that you'd support such a thing than believing in a God. You must not be much of a moral christian...
I find your mindset on this pretty strange. "Well, God said that is how it is to be, so it must be right, even if it means chopping people up into small pieces over things that can be solved in a non-violent way." Clearly, if God is so powerful, and has infinite intelligence, he should be able to come up with a plan other than killing innocent people. Sounds quite malevolent. But I guess religious people can't understand it. I've seen on youtube people posting a line something like "Those who do not believe in God will be blinded to the teachings of the Bible," or something like that. That's obviously just a self-defense of the Bible, to throw at non-believers, saying that they are blinded, and don't understand because they don't believe in it. Well, how I see it, it's quite the opposite. Those who believe in the Bible cannot see the completely ridiculous things in it, and the complete irrationality and repulsiveness of the bible. I mean no disrespect by saying this, I'm just saying it. I agree with Quantummist, religion is rather dangerous to mankind...
I agree with you, religion is VERY dangerous to mankind!
That's why I'm not part of any! :jointsmile:
Why God does not exist, in one sentence.
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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit
You need to ask yourself, did you really have faith?
He has made his presence known, and he will make his presence known! :jointsmile:
Isn't it easy to blame him for all the wrong in your life?
Typical Christian response, you assume anyone that was once a fellow Christian to have fallen away to never have been a strong Christian to begin with. My friend, I have spent far more money on blind faith than most people do, Christian or not. Few Christians have the faith I had, how many times have you given money to someone even though you knew you really needed it, but did so because you knew they needed it too and you felt God would repay you?
I also don't see how you accuse me of blaming the wrong in my life on God, that is, something I don't believe exists. I would be a hypocrite if I said I don't believe in God, but then blame the bad things in my life on God. I don't blame the problems in my life on anybody but myself. It was myself that was naive enough to believe in the fantasies taught by the Christian religion, and it was pure stupidity to hand over my future to a super-being that has never been proven to exist.
He has never made his presence known, you only believe he has because that is what the bible tells you has happened, however NOTHING has ever been documented to prove God exists, rather, as science and technology advance, and we understand more and more about our true origins, everything we have been taught must be re-examined and Christians are trying their best to figure out how to fit God in with the contradictions their religion is tied in with.
I have to admit this argument makes me laugh because not more than a few months ago I was making the exact same type of argument rebuttals when defending Christianity - that is, that anybody that doesn't see his presence just aren't religious enough, or that basic attitude that you really don't know how to respond so you just keep on talking about how much you believe.
It's ok, I don't mind it, I completely understand where you are coming from, and I just hope someday you will see the truth :)
Why God does not exist, in one sentence.
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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit
I believe that we are spiritual beings inside an earthly body. I don't think we will reach our full potential until our change come!
I'm confident and believe whole heartily that there is life after death. Life goes on! :jointsmile:
That's why I say it always comes down to faith. One person will put his/her facts together and consider in their heart what he/she feels is true, and then the next person will come to a completely different conclusion. That's part of life, we are all individuals.
Like the stars of heaven, we all shine differently. Peace! ;)
That's a bit different than religion. While it's cool for people to be open-minded and have their own beliefs... religion is not your own belief. For anyone to believe that there is an invisible, almighty God, that has infinite power, and is omnipotent, it usually takes something called "indoctrination" (to put it nicely).
Christians, and especially Evangelical christians, are indoctrinating children to their beliefs. It's all teached in a biased way, and another view is never given except it's because of "God." Now, if you consider how children generally are... they really have no idea or reference of any other belief. So if you give them this idea from a young age, before they start to form their own opinions etc., they almost have no choice but to accept that belief - since they don't have any other references of how the world is. It's all brainwashing. The Bible also fits the definition of "propaganda" perfectly.
Why God does not exist, in one sentence.
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Originally Posted by Nailhead
Typical Christian response, you assume anyone that was once a fellow Christian to have fallen away to never have been a strong Christian to begin with. My friend, I have spent far more money on blind faith than most people do, Christian or not. Few Christians have the faith I had, how many times have you given money to someone even though you knew you really needed it, but did so because you knew they needed it too and you felt God would repay you?
I also don't see how you accuse me of blaming the wrong in my life on God, that is, something I don't believe exists. I would be a hypocrite if I said I don't believe in God, but then blame the bad things in my life on God. I don't blame the problems in my life on anybody but myself. It was myself that was naive enough to believe in the fantasies taught by the Christian religion, and it was pure stupidity to hand over my future to a super-being that has never been proven to exist.
He has never made his presence known, you only believe he has because that is what the bible tells you has happened, however NOTHING has ever been documented to prove God exists, rather, as science and technology advance, and we understand more and more about our true origins, everything we have been taught must be re-examined and Christians are trying their best to figure out how to fit God in with the contradictions their religion is tied in with.
I have to admit this argument makes me laugh because not more than a few months ago I was making the exact same type of argument rebuttals when defending Christianity - that is, that anybody that doesn't see his presence just aren't religious enough, or that basic attitude that you really don't know how to respond so you just keep on talking about how much you believe.
It's ok, I don't mind it, I completely understand where you are coming from, and I just hope someday you will see the truth :)
wait, u had strong faith, but now there's no proof of god?
GROWin GRACE
Why God does not exist, in one sentence.
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Originally Posted by mfqr
Christians, and especially Evangelical christians, are indoctrinating children to their beliefs. It's all teached in a biased way, and another view is never given except it's because of "God." Now, if you consider how children generally are... they really have no idea or reference of any other belief. So if you give them this idea from a young age, before they start to form their own opinions etc., they almost have no choice but to accept that belief - since they don't have any other references of how the world is. It's all brainwashing. The Bible also fits the definition of "propaganda" perfectly.
I disagree, those people brought up from birth as a Christian usually are the weakest Christians of them all. They put on a good Christian face on sundays, but in their private time they rebel and do anything non-christian.
There are people that are fake Christians, and those that really do act as the bible teaches. Few people really act as Christians are taught to, few Christians even read the bible. I'd say maybe 1% or so of people that go to church are really a true Christian, maybe less than that. Most people do not follow any of the teachings at all, they just pick and choose a few things of what to follow, usually they just do what the preacher tells them to do, which in many cases is NOT what the bible teaches.
Main example, the entire Catholic religion. The bible clearly says not to call anyone other than God "father", the bible says not to lavish yourselves in riches, the pope does this, and of course....who the hell is the pope? Christians are supposed to worship God, nobody else, especially human! lol I mean seriously if you actually read through the bible it clearly teaches to do exactly what the Catholic religion does all the time! I have never understood this! Maybe somebody can try to explain it to me, I don't know any Catholics myself so I'm just an outsider peeking in, but Christians don't seem to ever care about being lumped in with Catholics and many their traditions and teachings have come from the Catholic church.
Why God does not exist, in one sentence.
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Originally Posted by GROWin GRACE
wait, u had strong faith, but now there's no proof of god?
GROWin GRACE
As I said earlier, I had blind faith, aka, ignorance. I didn't need proof of God to believe, I had my faith and that was enough. It was foolish and very dumb, but unfortunately that is how many people of religion believe, (not just Christianity).
Why God does not exist, in one sentence.
I just want to add that I hope I'm not offending anybody here, I have many friends of all sorts of religions and I have no problem with their beliefs and I wouldn't talk about things like this unless they asked and wanted to participate in a discussion like this. If anybody is offended sorry, I haven't been offended by others either, but I think it's just because I'm usually medicated when visiting here :P hehe
We all have a right to believe what we want to believe, I would only have a serious issue with someone if they were trying to tell me how I live is somehow bad or immoral, but so far I feel this discussion has been going over pretty maturely and I'm enjoying it! I like talking about this stuff, hope you do too :)
Why God does not exist, in one sentence.
I believe in God but could you tell me, in one sentence, why God does exist?
Why God does not exist, in one sentence.
God is the imaginary friend for grown ups
