Please help! Droopy Plants

LOL.....Tom, see the "latewood, xcrispi, weedhound" thread in this section. There you will see the 11 pounds from one 1000 watt light post. Anyways, the only down side I see to growing this ScroG setup in the fall is I am going to need to start from seed....Meaning germ all 10, veg, clone, grow, sex, get mother, clone, train .......blah blah blah..you know the drill. The reward will be seeing a nice fat bud in every available hole in the screen.

You are a busy man, Tom. Sounds like you are exploring some great areas though. Best of luck with all your endeavours.


ASD.....About rockwool...I LOVE IT. I read horror stories here often about the misadventures folks have with it, but not I. If I didnt grow in RW and Hydroton, I'd grow in Coco. Its to each their own and what they are comfy with. As I have said previously, I keep moms in Coco.

ASD...and you asked about soaking. Yes, I soak in Rockwool Soak from bghydro. If you do not have that you can soak in 5.5 pH'd water for 24 hours. Before you use, squeeze most of water out of em, you want em moist, not dripping wet. And KEEP the PHUCKING light from beating on the top of the RW. Buy them handy plastic cover thing mah jigs, make your own, do whatever you gotta do to keep light from getting to RW. I use circles of panda plastic, cut a + in the center of each circle. I can drop the net pot right thru the +. Plastic goes back in place and the only thing sticking thru is plant. Works slicker than snot on a glass door handle. White side up of course.

80 here Tuesday, 25 today, fuckin weather by Cybil. Shit dont know wether to bloom or die.......

b0nger

Sounds like michigan weather. What part of the world do live in bonger? I thought I read SC or NC somewhere but I cant remember. What about you weedhound and ASD? Weedhound asked me where I lived - Sun Diego. I was wondering about those rockwool covers though - do the covers block the plant from getting fresh oxygen? I know that in ebb and flow that the oxygen is supposed to be pushed out of the top of the cube when the water level rises and then oxygen is pulled into the cube when the water level drops. Do you think that rockwool covers would negatively affect this? Its prob. different if you are bubbling in the oxygen from the bottom though. But where does the stale air go if it it covered by plastic?

All you guys drooling over that 11lb comment need to go back and reread Scarlet's thread. There she clarifies (for the safety of Bonger's heart) that what she got was 11b of WET untrimmed marijuana, stems included.....so all you boys just calm right down!!

I also agree that Tom went off thread so we need to go over there and smoke all that lovely stuff he is growing. I'm in Nor Cal myself...about 2 hrs east of Lake Tahoe so i'll probably get there first; too bad for the rest of you.

ASD each plant has it's own limit for leaf blades if I remember correctly. And I find it amazing that you jumped the gun on the 12/12 as you have been so slow and cautious as a rule. :D It should not affect the potency of your grow but will affect the final yield. Potency is determined by the genetics of the plant.

The Walmart seed.....sounds like a setup to me. The cops were probably watching you the whole time and will be there soon to get the goods. Speaking of.....you don't get all your seeds at WalMart do you? Can't guarantee the potency of the discount store sidewalk seeds. :stoned:

Mid Atlantic most of the time, Tom. My covers are not like a Tupperware seal or anything.....lol They are just laying on top of the netpot/hydroton. About "stale air", I have none. I can make my growroom a wind tunnel if I want. I got hells of fresh air commin in, and the old is scrubbed and exhausted.

Those super fancy special plastic doo hickes they sell I have no idea about. I know bghydro carries them, but since I had some panda plastic handy, I used an empty netpot for size, cut out circles, cut + in center, and voila.

I am not cheap or nothing like that, but if I can fab something to achieve exact same result as something that would run 20 bucks, hell, I make it. Fron picture on a website I could not tell how big hole was in center either. So, I figured as my stalk increased in girth (eazy ladies), it would just push the plastic back, and it does, perfectly.

I've seen pics of all kinds of different shit used. This was just easiest and what I had materials to do at the time.


b0nger

I'm debating on what sorta system to make now that the room is completed (well close enough)

I'm planning another aero system...a multibucket...maybe a horizontal pvc tube kind or simply a rubbermaid tub setup...although the rubbermaid would probably hold 2 plants max and even then they'd be pretty close together

I'm leaning toward something kinda like a waterfarm with a seperate res and like nine 5 gallon paint buckets 3 rows of 3...I figured I could raise the buckets a few inches off the ground and have a return drain but once I thought of that it raised a bunch of questions...How to gauge pump gph for the setup...What sorta piping configuration to keep waterpressure at the nozzles even throughout(does that even matter? And especially making the seals where the supply/return pipes enter/exit the bucket as well as the connection to the pump(s)...spray painting the buckets...ability to disassemble or remove buckets not in use or do maintenance on a plant etc

I kinda had this idea that if I could get the bucket design setup with 2 threaded ends sticking out the bottom...one to connect the drain and one to connect the supply(it would let me make 9 buckets the same and just get flex lines to supply the water and drain and screw them on when in use and plug shut when not...I went looking for pvc that would have like rubber washers on either end so I could just cut a hole with a drill and screw press the seal on both but had no luck

The nice thing about the waterfarm pipes is that it looks like the lines are all bendy ehh suppose I have lots more supplies to lookup before I can start buildin

Ohhh and where I live we are in like the top 10 in the country in like every bad category...murder...crime...high school dropouts...drugs etc so I figured the seed just fell out a bag when someone was rollin up in the parking lot...although now you got me checking the windows ever 5 minutes hehe

Bonger you have an aero setup right? what configuration did you go with? The more I keep thinkin about it I was figurin the pvc tubes angled back to a res would probably be the simplest just wonderin what ya settled on

ASD...yessir, I do. I use systems from Aquamist. I bought before I realized how easy it would be to build this equipment. Plus at time I had no idea where to get all the parts. I wanted to get things happening and did not want to fuck around trying to build something and need to rework it 14 times before I got it dialed in.

Since then I stumbled across US Plastic, which has anything plastic you need, or they can get it, and a few hydro websites where I could get everything to build whatever the hell I wanted. When I started I concentrated on growing, not building.

Anyways, they work, and work very well.

You wanna do buckets, you need to flag down Latewood on one of his visits. He has bucket growing down to a science.

If I were doing buckets I'd mirror that flood and drain setup they have with seperate controller. But, thats just me.


b0nger

hey bonger do you remember what type of pump you have?

After a ton of reading I've come up with more of a solid idea but it shed light on a rather disturbing note on psi and the aeroponic benefit...I found that pump head height 6'....10'....20' etc is the psi translation and that the flow in gph really doesn't mean much I guess is why pumps with the same head height are pretty close in price and the jumps seem to come with the head height change...I'm still thinking about misting roots in the air anyway even though the benefit seems to be rather limited

Just wonderin if you have any thoughts or came across any info in your travels...I haven't been able to find much specific info on ideal sprayer psi ratings for flow and mist production (droplet size)...unfortunately lack of information has probably lead to millions spent in waste by people thinking the extra gph would make a difference

*mutters* 3 hours of research but atleast I found some answers guess you really get what ya pay for...high psi pumps are really expensive

I have a few new pics to post but it'll have to wait till tomorrow time for bed :)

ASD how about a new photo of the greenies?

Tom, how is that Gravity doing for you? Any issues? I'm planning on trying it this grow.....just turned to 12/12 yesterday.

Weedhound - The gravity is some weird stuff. I think that it does make the plants denser which is nice. However - you know how it says move the lights up six - 12 inches? Well - make sure you actually do move them up a bit. For some reason, after I added the gravity, my top leaves turned very purple and became very photosensitive - which caused light burn - which I believe results from some sort of nutrient build up in the leaves. You will see what I mean. Also - it made my rez a little gunky but not too bad. I am going to try it again on my next grow for the whole 12 days that it recommends. I only ran it for about 4 days b/c the plants were ready to be flushed so I didnt really give it a fair trial.
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When I used it, I cut down my nutes by 1/3. This stuff didnt make my EC go up at all, which was weird. My theory is that the Gravity does not make the EC reading go up b/c it is not a salt. When you pour it in, it looks more like a lipid - you see an oil on water effect. This is def. some weird shit. Correct me if my EC theory is wrong. Peace

Finally got the aquastat regulator fixed on our boiler...the heat is back on...bout time, that's why I was gone for a couple days...I'll be back later tonight just posting a few pics to show the update...it got very cold but thankfully they seemed to handle it alright probably extended overall grow time or just lost more yield but after everything else it's not a surprise haha...1 & 2 are Zola 3 & 4 are Eve

I'll update with the progress of other projects seedlings....new hydro unit and fert schedule...pics are 24 days flower

Looking good....coming along great!! :thumbsup:

I'm thinking about getting another light to grow the new ones under while the others finish so I remembered

WH you use a 1000watter is that a mag or digital and like what's the closest you can get it to your plants? If the 1000 would have to be more than 2feet away I'd probably have to go with the 600

The 1000 would work out cheaper with only 1 bulb doin the same as eventually trading the 400 I have now for another 600...

I've been looking at the new lumatek e-ballast with all cords and parabolic reflector 600w($300ish) or 1000($450ish) not sure if I wanna bother goin 240 or just stick with 120 but I'll worry about that once I decide on the ballast...

My 400w hps ballast from sun systems doesn't get very hot at all it's barely warm to the touch and I don't have a fan on it...is digital really as good as lumatek says....longer bulb life and like 10-30% brighter?

The only bad thing I've heard is that digitals can interfere with RF signals or whatever and I've heard some people say yes and no...I know some recent post used 4-750 digitals I think it was racerx...I'd go with the 600 or 1000 just so I could use any bulb...

Everything with the grow is goin well the ppm is down to 950 ph is about 5.3ish...probably have 5 weeks left unless they decide to finish earlier on their own

They are looking fabulous! They will be looking crazy pretty soon too! Look like you are starting to get some nice crystals on the leaves - good job ASD.

950? Is that because of the bloom stimulator? I'll have to go check my ballast....I know it's not digital but it does go back and forth from hps/mh. I remember asking at the time whether I should go with several 600's vs 1000 for my room (8 waterfarms) and he told me 1000 was better than several lights and I'll be damned if I remember the why. I also asked him about conversion bulbs etc and the discussion came down to the best way to go. In his view the best way to go was 1kw switchable and i don't remember digital entering the conversation.

PS....mine is 120v

Ok my ballast is from Sunlight Supply and is called a GroPro.....i asked him which would be best and that's what he sold me. Along that same line the reflector I bought was.....Sun Systems by Sunlight Supply. Just to brag I saw the same reflector mentioned in Jorge's Cervantes book Marijuana Horticulture as being one of the best values in North America....whatever that means.

I am in the process of trying to decide how low I can get my hps bulb to my plants. The reflector is air-cooled with a 170cm inline fan and I have been working with X-Crispi on making improvements in the way I had it set up which has made quite an improvement in its cooling ability. I do not recommend trying a 1kw without some sort of cooling system......it will bake you right out of the house.

My light and ballast are from sun systems sunlight supply as well and I've been very pleased...my 400w ballast runs relatively cool although it is pretty heavy...

I've just started hearing about digital ballasts all over the place and it seems that previous digitals had all kindsa problems etc...although the newer ones are supposed to be quirk free

I found out that 240v runs with less amps so it saves a bit of money...not much though the main thing it seems to do is put out less heat from the ballast...I'd assume the bulb itself produces atleast the same if not more heat (if it really burns brighter) so I'd definately have to get some sorta cooling plan in place...the basement stays "very" cool though so keeping the room below 80 will not be an issue regardless of light...actually I was thinking of using an open parabolic reflector with a fan just blowing across the top of the room...

As long as the production bugs are fixed I'm thinking about gettin the 1kw digi from lumatek but I'm still waiting for an e-mail response from the manufacturer it would be nice to have some extra light to grow other stuff so regardless of brand I think 1kw is the way to go

How are your girls goin WH they must be getting pretty big by now...

I read that you are supposed to exhaust air with the fan to cool the light apparently that's better to do than pushing air through and out the other side...ya porbably already had it setup that way but just as a heads up ;-)

yes, that's the way mine is set up. And you'd be surprised just how much heat these bulbs put out, especially the mh bulb more so than the hps. ...the ballast is nothing in comparison heatwise. Believe me ASD, get you something to cool with if you go with 1kw.

My plants are doing well four or five days into flower....nothing showing yet. I'll take a photo of them and post it later today. They are extremely resistant to my increasing the ppms on them.....right now they are at 650 with the old sicko at 575. Everytime I try to jump them up they don't do well so I'm sticking with that. They seem quite happy with it although being THAT low makes me nervous.

Speaking of which.....your ppms at 950? Was that suggested w/your bloom stimulator because if not kick them back up to 1200 (slowly please). Now is the time to push them to the edge.....pretty soon they will be chopped and smoked so its now or never. Obviously if that is what is recommended for some reason then please ignore this entire last paragraph.

So here's some new photos....think I'm on day 5 bloom. (I do have it written down Bonger just too lazy to walk accross the room and look so ha :p) They are such different heights etc I had trouble getting a good photo of all of them so pretty much front to back.

that does seem kinda low but all that really matters is they're happy

I kept dropping mine cause once I lowered the ph it seemed like they were showing signs of overnute...The new leaves have started to come out with a much flatter look and the tips aren't burning anymore so yer probably right about starting to inch it on up again...thankfully the cold didn't seem to hurt them at all it was like 50 at night but they were both troopers...

If the buds plump up as much as everyone says the last half of flower it should be a very exciting month

The walmart seed was the first of the new batch to break soil and is a nice dark green...the rest are also pretty similar in color but seem to have more ribbed leaves hard to describe...11 of the 16 have made it so now I just have to get crackin on a system for them

They do look healthy as can be...we do need to get you cloning though weedy, that alone would probably increase yer yields by a good margin...

How far away is your light currently? What's crispi's take on it? I don't have any experience with that much power in lighting but you should be able to atleast get it within 3ft? My 400 can get just about 6 inches away maybe even closer but I'm afraid to try it...so I'd be surprised if the 1000 needs to be more than 5x the distance

I can't say for sure but my bulb puts out 54 or 55k lumens and yours should be about 150k so that's 3x...and you are cooling yours while I'm not even venting mine hmm after lookin at the pic they do look a bit yellow near the new growth but they could probably handle some more fire

how many times have you topped them so far?

I think I need to get a good floro setup for the seedlings cause the 40 watts I got on em now seems to take forever to get em goin...it's possible the bulbs just need to be replaced but if I remember right I got em for less than 20 bucks each bulb included...they are rather nice fixtures though I might be able to just replace with a nice bulb...more to ponder heh

Oh i'll go w/feminized seeds before I go to clones.....I just don't want the entire extra setup and I haven't seen one strain yet that I look at and say
"that and only that" over.

I've gotten my light down to 17 inches above my plants but am in the process of seeing if I can get it lower with X-C's help. Now he's got those cooltube things and swears by them. If you are interested I could go poke his ass and see if I can drag him over here. With cooltube and good fan you can get your 1kw down to like 8 inches. If I didn't have the reflector I already have I'd buy a cooltube. :thumbsup:

If you can slowly raise your ppms safely then do. They need everything they can get (to me) in the last 3-4 weeks. But good plan being better safe than sorry.....especially now. ;)

I hear ya on the extra setups that's definately a pain to have a bunch of different things running all at once...17 inches sounds pretty close to me so if you can get it closer more power to ya...ideally I'd like to have an open parabola that I can just blow a fan over but I don't know how realistic that is...I'm gonna be lookin into a cool tube now that ya mention it...haha poke all ya want just don't be too rough with him...atleast until he gets your light as close as possible ;)

I found out some information on the lumatek's...it seems that the old ones are the gray and any other color(light blue, darker blue, purple) are all the newer version with little to no interference...the tech told me you would notice some AM distortion within 10 ft but nothing that would annoy neighbors and if ya can't have any interference the 600's are rated at 0 when yer more than one foot from the ballast, the 5 year warranty isn't bad either and with all the 3rd party test results putting them at the top they are the way to go at this point...1kw should atleast allow me to pull 2-3 z's and grow some other veggies at the same time...light/nute hungry tomatoes are next to go in and probably a few onions as I hear they have a nice smell...as long as I can figure out how to wire a 240 line....luckily I already have one as a guide in my dryer so it should be easy as pie

Bonger must be experiencing more of that springtime whip crackin from his lady haha

Unfortunately it's still below freezing here so it doesn't even feel like winter is over yet I'm definately itchin to enjoy some great outdoors

Still waiting for the pump I bought to arrive once it gets here I'm gonna put a prototype unit together...I'll post the details once I have the stuff worked out and make it like a little tutorial if all goes well

Good luck gettin those girls to eat more ttyl

tom thanks for checkin in I'm definately plannin on keepin up on your grows the buds look just about perfect imo...I still have so much catching up to do, all you guys produce beautiful herb well I haven't seen bonger's but I'm sure it's gotta be dank if he's stumbling off his tractor :p I've atleast been able to avoid the daily disaster for almost a month *fingers crossed* 90% of where I am I owe to all your help especially weedy she's kept me in line right good :D

The boiler regulator goin was a scary one cause I've never dabbled in that sorta repair but thankfully it worked out as good as I could have hoped and the house is toasty once again

As for the crystals they are definately amplified by the flash in the pic but I can definately notice the main cola on the shorter plant starting to show tiny specs even with the hps on so I'm happy...can't wait to see how these babes bring it home

oh and I accidentally broke off a branch while trying to train a hidden budsite to get more light so I quickdryed some in the microwave and some in the oven...both bowls seemed to hit about the same...relatively harsh but the buzz was surprisingly noticeable since I haven't smoked any in some time, nothing compared to finished bud but it was nice...I'm going to stick with training the c99 cause she's like rubber but no more with the other

I'll probably take a tiny snip from both trees in 3 weeks and again at 4 and probably harvest at 5 so I have an idea of what high feels the best

Does flushing change the buzz or does it just make the hits smoother?

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oh and I accidentally broke off a branch while trying to train a hidden budsite

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Congratulations ASD, you've just been accepted into the major leagues. :cool:

rofl thanks hound and such a welcome I feel all warm and fuzzy inside although that could be the nitrogen :stoned:

I was upset right after it happened but then I was like ehh atleast I can smoke it...all part of the experience right?

I'm taking a hands off approach to all cola's from here on out :cool:

Hello A.S.D , Bonger , and my Sis. -> W/H .

Bonger - I have a 12k guardian nat gas self starting gen myself . It's sweet till you get brown outs and fry the coils inside the transfer switch . LOL . then no pole or gen. either 1 . I also noticed a slight voltage drop in the house when gen runs once a week to chg. it's battery , it was causing my 1000's to hotstart = killing bulb life . I just friday ordered some CAP 15 min. time delays for them to prevent this .

And I too called W/H Bro. / dude for 7 mos. till a naked lady comment came up . Then I thought maybe gay for a split second ? Then the Mrs. cracked me upside the head -n- said shes a chick . I was a bad dog too .

A.S.D - You guys have covered much much info . W/H -n- Bonger have both been giving you good info btw , atleast from what i know . I kept up w/ the 1st cpl. pages but know nothing about aeroponics except ppl. get way pissed when sprayers get clogged up . Im a buckethead myself .

Bongers right w/ ventilation - plants wont live in a vacuum atleast not well , my own room is slightly pressurised due to only an intake blower -n- no exhaust blower , just a dozen passive darkroom vents .

240v/120v I caught your comment on saving a lil w/ 240v .= Nope wont save a dime , kilowatt hrs / are kilowatt hrs. ballast uses the same amount of juice to fire bulb regardless . Be damn careful about these new fangled electronic ballasts too . I've read much voo doo about not all bulbs working in them - atleast not for long = longevity issues . I too have sun light supply ballasts , saving a dime on my electric bill honestly never entered my head , a 5 -8 yr. warranty on my equipment did though .

Bongers right again - power co. could give a rats ass how much juice you use , just as long as it's paid for - and on time . Don't expect the church to pay your grow bills , that's why they come snooping around S.S ' place . Karmas a bitch . Not crashin on S.S either btw , but you cant play games w/ your freedom !

W/H hinted you had cooltube questions etc... last time she and I spoke , fire away man ? And sorry for my short attn. span w/ your thread -I just know nill about aero sys - much better w/ buckets is all . God I miss Krusty - B.O.G - and SoQuick .

Peace all
Stay safe
The Crispis' :jointsmile:

XC, power is very consistent where I am, either its on or its OFF.....lol Never have seen a brown out here. Have seen em in FL during storms, but never have experienced here.

I notice no different when it does its weekly routine. I dont know if its how its hooked up, or because of that switch/relay thing, or what. I know very little about the entire setup except it works, actually. My IBEW bud is in charge of that detail in the event of problems, not me.

Clogged Sprayers.......I use Mag Drive pumps that have sponge pre filter, plus I keep in pump bag, and I use Hydroton and rockwool......nothing to really get in mine and clog.

If the power company went looking everytime someone used "too much power", thats all they'd get done. They do not even have close the manpower to do such. They could give a shit less. Think about it, if you pay your bill online (debit from checking), they have a customer who puts money in their bank account monthly........Hell, they love you. Not to mention you NEVER "pop up" on some late/no payment report so in theory nobody ever sees your bill but a computer. I dont even get a paper copy of bill anymore. If I want one I can print from online.

My meter reader chick comes by and has a handheld that she points at meter and it beeps like a supermarket register reading UPC codes. Thats it, shes gone.

And I sure as in the hell would not go asking someone to "help" pay the bill. No way, no.....nope.....That would freak me the hell out. All I have to say about that. Next.

Oh, I use Cool Breeze cool tubes, too. Draw outside of grow room air thru em and exhaust into attic on same vent line after the carbon scrubber. Works like a charm. The more control you have on your growing evvironment, the better the results, in MY opinion only.

I am done for the summer, harvested last Saturday night. I'll still be dropping in to kill time and read up on things, but no mo growin til fall. Plus it wont be long til the kiddies are out of skewl and flooding this place with bonehead questions. That gets very annoying to me, and quickly.

ASD......sounds like you are learning to keep your paws off things that dont need messed with:D :D Remember, keep it simple, this stuff aint that hard to grow, bro:rasta: :rasta: You have came a long well and 'Hound has been a true mentor to you. I wish you the best of results.

'Hound, hope all is well with you. Guess you had some snow this week from what I saw on weather, or at least close to you anyways.

A good weekend to all,
b0nger

All look good to me but I know nothing hope it turns out good for you

Hey ASD! I hope all is well. When do the new budshots come out? It feels like its been awhile - but I am probably just impatient. Welp - I guess we'll see ya soon.

Yes, where the h*ll IS that boy?

I've kinda got stuck in a pit of endless repairs...once I fixed the aquastat relay it strained another old part called the intermittent ignitor or somethin like that basically it sparks the boiler when it's time once I got that figured out I found a couple electrical issues that are still bein cleared up...that and the warm weather I've had to get a few things taken care of to please the "boss" heh

the grow is goin fine I guess doesn't seem to be changing very much maybe a bit more crystal than before but I got a couple pics to post anyway...

welcome crispi I definately have a some questions for you on the reflector of choice...I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go with a 600w in a week or so just wonderin what sorta fan system is generally put in place to cool the reflector...I've looked around online but couldn't find anything put together do they have fans that just clamp on like a 6" or 8" exhaust?

hehe yeah bonger I've had to resort to slapping my hand everytime I wanna touch something in there...it's so tough just watching idly it's hard to resist :cool:

Thanks thinx as long as they finish strong I'll be thrilled

Hope you are all doin well and enjoyin some of this beautiful weather across the country, if it's nice out even work doesn't seem quite as bad :D

One more major repair with the electrical before I can focus on plumbing and finishing touches in the growroom slowly but sure it's comin along

Even in the dark those look sweeeeet! Quite a bit more crystals in my view....maybe just camera flash but sure looks good. Glad you're back....was starting to worry....:cool:

DAMN Bonger you are LOOKING GOOD!!!! I want to look like YOU!!! :D

Hey ASD ,
I love my cooltubes just like Bonger . I run 2 inline w/ 2- 1000w. hps
and a 6in. 630 H/O centrifugal fan , Vortex or Grotek are my favorites due to 5 and 10 yr. warranties . They make a 6 in. 450 cfm blower that would cool a pair of 600's I bet .

W/H has a square boxy hood that impedes airflow and can keep it cool w/ only a 4in. 170 cfm Vortex = like 85 deg temps right on the glass . With the cooltubes Im able to get lamps w/in 6-8 in of canopy during flowering and still cover my whole grow as well .
Peace man
Crispi :jointsmile:

thank you for the info crispi I finally got the electrical updated and now just a bit more work before I can upgrade the lighting but it's comin along nicely...the newest seedlings are gettin ready to hop in after harvest and the clone is still healthy just kinda slow growing cause the plants quickly outgrew the available light I have now

I need to get a scope so I can see the trichs color...right now it's about 5 to 10 percent colored pistils the c99 was definately a taller faster growin plant so it's hurt growth a bit with only one light but tons of bud sites help counteract the small bud size...The indica has much tighter bud production with way more crystals the hairs are turning bright orange as opposed to c99's darker brown

I ended up settling right around 1000-1100 for ppm and the ph seems to drop about 2 to 3 tenths a day

I've been using the dehumidified water and currently it's pulling enough to supply all 0 ppm watering at start it pulls about 1.5 to 2.5 gallons a day

I'll post some pictures once the light is off today for an update and get yer advice on bout how much longer till chop time...I'm planning on a 5-7 day flush

Hope everyone is enjoying the spring so far

Glad to see you ASD! Thanks for the update.....keep it up. Can't wait for photos. :thumbsup:

Ok hopefully this works my computer has crashed when I try to post em

My ph drops a ton at night now but is fine during the day so I check it twice over the night cycle and once in the morning to level off at 5.2 - 5.3

I'm still running on 0ppm it went down from like 30 once I cleaned out the bin

Does it look like I should flush soon by the color change? the top of eve is still all white with no change at all so I'm waitin to see when that starts to go I'll probably do it