Comes a Time, First Grow, Please Step Inside -- 2000 watt Sour Diesel

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Originally Posted by razzapiggy

...I'm going to try to keep my fan off the entire time the lights are out. I figure my 9 by 11 grow area will have enough air, and it's very important to my that I keep my temps up during the night cycle.
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I just switched to that exact fan thing 3 days ago when the night temps around here started getting really cold.
I have the fan plugged into the same time-clock on my main breaker panel that the lights are on so all my flower room systems are only operational during lights on.
I have to say how this winter sucks for trying to regulate temps! 70 one day...3 days later it hits 0 degrees F overnight!!! WTF!

Thanks for the tip Cruz and attic. My humidity rose to about 80% so I went in there for the first time during their night cycle to turn the exhaust fan on. Noticed a few tiny light leaks, so those will be taken care of tonite (guess it's a good thing I went in there) I'm going to buy a d/h shortly, and get that in there for the plants on their off cycle. Curious if the light leaks did any damage to the plants, haven't seen any signs at all. Guess the signs I should be looking for with reguards to males (now four weeks into flower) is seed pods... anyone have a good link with various different pictures of seed pods? I doubt it will be a problem, I looked carefully the light wasn't reaching the plants, though you can never be too sure! Thanks gang.

Light leaks can also result in fluffier, lighter buds.
It's always a good idea to go visit your plants in the dark and sort of see what they see.

good advice stinky:thumbsup:

Yeah no shit, I should have checked more carefully. Well, hopefully no damage has been done, because it sure as hell is going to be completely fixed tonite. Also off to get a dehumidifier right now! I can actually hear my PG&E bill rising, its kind of weird.:D

Some bud shots, and canopy shots four weeks in... will be updating with pictures every week from here until harvest! Enjoy

Here are a few more pictures, one of a plant that suffered some damage to its main stem, hope she makes it... one is of a leaf that looks pretty sickly, about 10-15 leaves in the 32 plants look this way. Anyone got a clue? Last picture is of the tape I put on the spots where the white reflective matieral. Noticed some slight light leaks, nothing big at all. Hope it's not a problem.

So I got my dehumidifier home today from Sears, all excited to set it up for the ladies so they dont have to suffer the high humidity levels again tomorrow during their off cycle, and it's cracked! It will be returned tomorrow and will be set to 50% from then on (only on during their off cycle)

For their light cycle I have found that 15 minutes on, then 15 minutes off for my exhaust fans (at 75% speed) tends to keep temps/humidity levels pretty constant. Anyhow, enjoy the pictures guys and thanks for stopping by.

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lookin good razz. here is some prop points.

Haha, just read your props points man. That cop was sketching me out man!! I wasn't even doing anything wrong and he still made me feel sketchy... I wonder if he saw the boat load of FoxFarm in your car LOL!!!

I have a friend who said pot plants don't pick up light on the green spectrum, so you can do work in the room with a green light on. Is this true?

Dehumidifier is working great. It's raising my night time temps to around 69-70 and my RH has hovered in the low high 40s/low 50s - loving it!

Your plants are looking great will be lookin forward to seeing future posts:)

In a relatively controversal yet I think completely needed move, I gave the girls a nice trim today. I took off growth on the bottom 1/3 of the plant, to give them more room to breathe. I stayed rather conservative about the bottom 1/3 of the plant, but they really just needed more space to be in. As a few of the vets pointed out earlier in my thread, it turns out I have a few too many plants for the time in which I vegged my babies so things got a bit crowded for sure. By doing this I have created more air flow on the bottom, which is obviously important. I also got a lumens meter today, and spaced the plants out a bit more by taking advantage of my sweet spots. The tall ones are on the outside, but at the same time I tried to put the ones in which looked like they would produce the best in the middle. I need to buy more bricks to raise some on the outside. Overall, things look much more airy and I have given the plant the opportunity to receive more lumens in more areas by spacing them out differently. Pictures come soon.

i might have missed it, but where did u get seeds for sour diesel? i've been searching and the closest i've found was sage x sour

These are from clone... haven't seen seeds available for this particular strain in a long long time. Best of luck with your search. Where are you located?

Have noticed to keep my R/H down during my lights on cycle, my temps at fimes are a few degrees cooler than lights off (because of the dehumidifier) I believe I have read it confuses the plants if you have much higher lights off temps but will a few degrees at times matter?

i dont think so, at least it didnt with my grow; i did hear that higher temps in your dark cycle can cause hermies.

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Originally Posted by razzapiggy

I have a friend who said pot plants don't pick up light on the green spectrum, so you can do work in the room with a green light on. Is this true?

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That's what I do anyway... I still noticed that once when I forgot to turn it off again it took longer for the new batch of plants to show sex. But I use green light for those times when I have to be in there puttering for some reason.

Cool, going to grab a green light bulb from the store today so I don't need to walk around flicking a lighter when I need to be in there.

Thanks Cruz, usually my temps are higher during lights on, but like I said sometimes my r/h gets a little high at night, and I use my fan more so it at times can get just a few degrees cooler than lights off temps - not often though.

Identified my problem with the redding/purpling of some veins/leaves as a nitrogen difficency. Bought some nitrate from the store which should cure it quickly! Pictures coming either tonight or tomorrow...

Just gave the babies some nitrate, hopefully it helps - read it will within a few days I believe? Also used half reverse osmosis water this time (half tap) which cut my PPM almost in half. PPM of my water prior to adding nutes was 260 and I brought it to 1050 with nutes. Last time I used 850 PPM water, but 450 of that PPM was due to the tap water. So my logic is I am adding more nutrients, but the PPM of the tap was cut in half so that's fine right? Does that question make sense?... lol Anyhow, will update soon with pictures - hopefully they make a speedy recovery from the Nit. diff.

P.S Is anyone still watching? It's so weird that my thread got three times the attention during veg as during flowering! LOL. Hats off to all who have stopped by, and especially those who have lent the helpful hand... come back soon!!

of course we're watching... it's not my fault you've got it going on ;)

pix please...

love, kp:p

Pictures coming tomorrow KP, you just wait and see! I bumped my PPM to 1050 tonite, hopefully they can handle it... if not it's flush time! Gotta push the ladies a bit right? Pictures to come within a day or so. Love you all!!!!!!!!!!

Hey, razza. Yea, we're watching. I haven't posted much on your thread, but I've been keeping up with it. Can't miss the name (so long) when it pops up on the top of the page. :) I don't remember seeing you visit my thread either...but I may be wrong. ;)

The plants are looking good to me, bro. Glad you decided to trim the bottom growth off. That will help focus your energy and also contribute to better air circulation around the plants, which is important. Hope that nitrogen boost helps your girls out and hope they can take the nutes like champs. Sounds like the dehumidifier is doing what it's meant to do...that's great too. :)

Looking forward to new pics, man.


RastafarI.

The Fog :rastasmoke:

Indeed! Thanks for coming by , I visit your thread but haven't posted much... sometimes I feel like for me to give advice or even to comment sometimes is a bit hard since I'm trying to get the basics down.

Couple quick questions here gang!

I have my babies in three gallon pots, and they are wayyy taller than I had once anticipated - 3 feet and a few inches for most of em. I think they are have stopped growing vertically though, so I believe the rule of thumb is one gallon per foot of plant growth. Should be alright, dont ya think?

Secondly, I just went over to the buddys house that I got the clones from, and he said I am 100% going to need to stake them up because they tend to get too heavy for the stems to hold. I def. do not want to hang strings from the ceiling as it will be a HUGE pain in the ass. Is it ok to just put a stake deep in each plant and then tie the top of the plant to the stake? I would assume this would prevent the plant from falling over?

No signs of the nitrogen diff. going away just yet, only gave them the nitrate a day ago though - have to be patient. They seem ready for another watering tomorrow, so hopefully within a week I will stop seeing the yellowing of the leaves, and purple stems (though I believe the purple could also be from low temps) Anyhow, thanks!

yeah, use multiple steaks to hold up all the heviest colas. i didnt do this with my plants do to the fact they were almost done when the colas had that much weight. and as for your pots, it depends on your hydro settup. i dont see how you could get root bound with hydro but i never grown hydro.

Thanks Cruz! One other question for you guys.... I have a few plants that are partially broken (the stems) I am propped them up and recently tried to let them stand up on their own, didn't work... saw a bit of brown in the stem...are these babies that should be tossed?

Hey fella, been a minute, but I have a few tips. Those stakes being jammed into the soil may do some root damage, so I would think about duct taping some PVC piping on the out side of the pots and use those to tie your plants up. They will be sturdier too. As for the root bound issue, you may see some, but IMO the soilless medium is able to provide better root growth, allowing a more efficient use of the roots so they grow different then when in soil. Bottom line, I wouldn't worry to much unless you start to see roots coming out the bottom of the pots at a rapid rate then at that point I would place some more 3 gal buckets under those with a 3 to 4 inch layer of the sunshine mix in them and the roots shooting out the bottom of the mane pots will start to create a new root structure in the new area.
Adieu

Thanks for coming by BlueBear. Yeah my plants only ended up a bit over three feet tall, so I think I am okay with the three gallon pots especially with the SunShine like you said. With reguards to the PVC piping, I am guessing you are talkinga bout running the pipe towards the tops of the plants and tieing from each side to have it stand up straight? It's hard to tell which way they will lean for right now, so I was trying to figure out an easy way to tie both ends of the cola up. Would you put the PVC up to the ceiling or across the room horizontally? I will conduct a search on the site shortly, but I have never heard of the approach you mentioned at least I don't think I have, so I am curious to hear you explain it. Always appreciate your advice Blue, I really am! Checked out your thread, looking good! Keep in touch...


Bumped my PPM to 1050, like four out of the thirty two are a bit nutrient burned (droopy leaves, slight curling) but I don't think I pushed it too too much. If some need to be flushed, as much of a pain in the ass it's going to be without a tray, it will be done. Adios all! Pictures coming by weeks start

After a little thought, and help from the woman (aren't women so logical?) I figured out the pipes would definitely go horizontally because you would need to use much less of it. Even though my room is 11 feet wide (and only 7 and a half tall) you can support a good five plants with a single horizontal pipe. I like that idea Blue! I am guessing I want to tie each plant from the left side of it as well as the right side of it, up towards the top of the cola... right? Thanks Blue you da man!

Also wanted to note, I started a thread in basic growing entitled Flushing Hydro Style. It's not very specific to hydro growers, more so just people who are not in an area where they can dispense their waste water when flushing easily. If some of you have dealt with this, please check out the thread and let me know which method you think will be less work and more effective. Thanks gang have a good weekend!

Hey Gang... few pictures for your viewing pleasures! 5 and a half weeks in... things are looking good. The nitrogen diff. seems to be a bit more under control, things just appear more green to me now. Still some dieing leaves on the bottom, but I am guessing the leaves that were already very damaged will likely continue to yellow and fall off... but hopefully the nitrate will prevent others from starting to get yellow.
Here are the pictures!

beautiful grow

Hello Everyone,


Noticed some yellowing on my leaves, mostly towards the bottom 1/3 of the plant, but also some yellowing on the top 1/3 of the plant as well. Bought some nitrogen heavy nutes to give them, and I have given water two times with the added nutrients (first time was five days ago)

Tonight was the first water without the nitrogen added. About two days ago things started to appear much greener, with little sight of yellowing leaves. I take off the ones that become completely yellow and appear dead.

After waiting about 12 hours too long to water them (they started to wilt a tiny bit) I went into the room today and found some yellow leaves at the bottom 1/3 of the plants. Things still appear much more green up top especially, but I still notice a tiny bit of yellowness on about 3 out of 30 of the plants (on the top 1/3 of them), and then some yellowing at the bottom on about 7-8 out of 30 of them. What should I do? Give them more water with the nitrogen additive in it? I am six weeks into flowering, and I know you are supposed to deprive them of N in their final weeks.

I am curious what to do, and also curious if the slight wilting could have caused the leaves on the bottom to get yellow at a faster rate? I sort of feel like giving them N again, maybe at half dose.. but wanted to run this by you helpful people first.

Also, not positive what I will do about holding them up, but they have officially started to show signs of falling over. The PVC pipe while seemingly a better option, I think will take a shit ton of work and makes the plants very un-mobile. I am considering just going with the stakes into the growing med. and then tie the plants, hopefully wont hurt the roots a ton. Would it work tieing them to a bamboo stake that is taped to the side of the pot or would that be too far away from the area you are trying to hold up?

Hello All...

Gave them a nice shower last night with 1/2 reccomended dose of nitrogen. Plants look nice - about six and a half weeks into 12.12 as of right now.

I went to Home Depot and bought the stuff I needed to build a tray (gutter, corregated roofing, something to hold the waste water) I figure this will make flushing alot easier at the end. I have a question though... corregated roof is a bright metal, will it create hot spots in my room or anything like that?

Figured I could save myself a some cash if I just used this as a tray instead of going to the Hydro store and buying a tray... they all do the same thing don't ya think? Figured I would put the corregated roof on cinder blocks, and have it at a slight angle... water would drip down... into a gutter, and then pour into a water container.

I am more concerned about the next run, when the plants are small, the corregated roof will get hit with some light, will this create a problem?

Will post pictures within the next day or two, or if I can think of any other questions.

buds galore, good job razz!