Why God does not exist, in one sentence.

"god does not exist because ____ happened"

udk what he HAS stopped from happening so...

The Universe is as God made it, but it now runs under the laws of nature He ascribed, without constant interference.

What God seeks to change now is us, and how we react to the trials we all face in the existence He has given us. How do we help our fellow man when hard times come? Do we live out the beliefs we say we hold?

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr."

Are we willing to give all in the defense of our beliefs and loved ones?

"If man hasn't discovered something that he will die for, he isn't fit to live.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr."

Now, can God change things if He wants too? Of course, or else He is not God. But without experiencing pain/loss/suffering how can we fully understand and appreciate love/happiness/mercy?

in nature there has never been an instance of something happeneing from nothing, something always causes something else, so in that snese i guess it had to be god that was the catalyst for existence

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Originally Posted by Hardcore Newbie

Many skeptics start out as believers, myself included. So if you're just commenting on what you'ev observed, that's fine, but if you're applying an observation to society as a whole, that's a different matter.

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Society on the whole is completely fucked soley because of the absence of God. As the number of people that discover the truth rise, the people living in ignorance will decline. The power of the truth will suffocate and eventually destroy everyone living in falsity..of course you dont believe me, so we'll just have to wait 20 years.

PureEvil, the most "fucked" examples of societies are those who were ruled by "God", ie. the middle ages and sharia-law nations. I know that's not your (or many's) view of god, but that's why you can't make such a blanket statement that societies are fucked because of a lack of god. Again and again we've tried to rule by god, and every time it destroyed cultures.

It is not necessary to call an ideal, philosophy, or state of mind "God" for it to work out. It saddens me that so many believe that without god, you can't have spirituality or enlightened thinking.

God does not exist because his benevolence and omnipotence are compatible because if it were true, his love for us would fore him to use his power to make the world a peaceul place.

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Originally Posted by PureEvil760

Society on the whole is completely fucked soley because of the absence of God. As the number of people that discover the truth rise, the people living in ignorance will decline. The power of the truth will suffocate and eventually destroy everyone living in falsity..of course you dont believe me, so we'll just have to wait 20 years.

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And in 20 years, what happens?

Because we have helpless women, babies little kids getting raped, thats just not fucking right.

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Originally Posted by Gandalf_The_Grey

PureEvil, the most "fucked" examples of societies are those who were ruled by "God", ie. the middle ages and sharia-law nations. I know that's not your (or many's) view of god, but that's why you can't make such a blanket statement that societies are fucked because of a lack of god. Again and again we've tried to rule by god, and every time it destroyed cultures.

It is not necessary to call an ideal, philosophy, or state of mind "God" for it to work out. It saddens me that so many believe that without god, you can't have spirituality or enlightened thinking.

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I understand what your saying, but im saying truely following god not any religeon..there is a major difference.

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Originally Posted by Gandalf_The_Grey

It is not necessary to call an ideal, philosophy, or state of mind "God" for it to work out. It saddens me that so many believe that without god, you can't have spirituality or enlightened thinking.

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Yup, sad but true. minus the belief part.

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Originally Posted by Th3 sand m4n

god dosent exist because humans originally evolved from simple organic molecules containing carbon. Energy from the sun, lightning, and earth's heat triggered chemical reactions to produce small organic molecules from substances present in the atmosphere. These molecules were organized by chance into complex organic molecules such as proteins, carbohydrates, and nucleic acids that are essential to life.
And proof of this comes from a famous experiment. two American scientists, Stanley Miller and Harold Urey, carried out an experiment in which they attempted to simulate early earth conditions according to evolutionists. They mixed water vapor with ammonia, methane, and hydrogen gases. They then sent an electric current that simulated lightning through the mixture. Then they cooled the mixture of gases, producing a liquid that simulated rain. After a week, they collected the liquid in a flask and analyzed the chemicals therein. They found that three amino acids (amino acids constitute the basic elements of proteins, which are the building blocks of living cells) were synthesized.

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that expirement was inconclusive

Onequestion

You said that God's love would make Him protect and help us thereby preventing pain and suffering, but you underestimate His love I think.

If we do not experience all that existence 'is' then how can we progress towards Him? To fully comprehend happiness/love/friendship and all the other wonderful things He made, we must understand their opposites.

I love my daughter and want to spare her from anything bad that I can, but if I do so then I rob her of much of the fullness of life. I try and teach her right from wrong, and how to think critically and make good decisions, but in the end her life is up to her (as it should be).

The same is true of us, there must be an opposite in all things.

Lastly, we often learn a lot more from suffering that we do from happiness.

Just my $0.02. Peace.

god was invented to explain things no one could with available technology, which is why things slowly were taken as metaphors when science easily disproved religion/god.

Can you tell us how science easily disproves God?
There's nothing easy about proving/disproving God. ;)

Unconditionally, I believe in God.

if you look at the power of life to the power of no-life i actually like the fact of some supernatural being delivering my presence rather then 2 rocks sparking and giving me life (a quick summary kinda)

I believe 'god' is a term for the creation of space, stars, planet etc....
I think it's the fact that there IS a higher power, whether it be god or science, or mother nature.....knowing that you are not in charge of everything, not even your own exsistance.

I dont think God or Satan exist because theres no angels in the clouds and pissed off guys with pitchforks in the middle of the earth. Although the second one is plausible... :wtf3:

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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit

Can you tell us how science easily disproves God?
There's nothing easy about proving/disproving God. ;)

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I don't really care about this subject, so I'm not going to spend much time on it, but here's a couple things:
1. The whole Noah's arc thing makes 0 sense. What did the animals eat? What did Noah eat? How the fuck did he build an arc big enough to store 2 of every animal?

2. The bible claims the earth is 7,000 yrs. old (or something like that). Carbon dating and fossils (as well as other things) disprove that.

3. Evolution disproves creationism, as there is PHYSICAL EVIDENCE backing evolution, and a really old book backing creation.

But believe god and the bible blindly. There's no evidence supporting anything important in religion, but someone wrote a book about it and convinced a lot of people so it must be true. Also, just because something can be proved physically doesn't mean its actually real, right? Maybe it's just the devil doing his work.

Well, it seems your theory is that an Xian God cannot exist, but that does not conclude that there is no God, god, Lord, lord, deity, supreme being, higher power, greater intelligence..... yadda yadda.

It is impossible to disprove the existence of a single or many gods.

yes, Noah's arc is a dumb story in my opinion. But it can be defended, easily, as can your other points.

1. God gave Noah and all the animals energy and strength to survive, and back in the day there really weren't that many animals, sp it wasn't hard to store them all.

2. Carbon dating is a trick from the devil to keep you away from the bible. God allows this as God knows that his true believers will not be swayed (by anything, ever).

3. God created the first microscopic beings, which evolved into higher forms.

Your friendly neighborhood agnostic ;)

But the bible says god created adam and eve, and we have scientific evidence that we have evolved from other beings. The bible doesn't say we have evolved from microscopic organisms put on earth by god. I'm going by things stated in the bible and commonly believed. It doesn't say that god gave everything strength and energy to survive. Of course you can make up random bullshit about anything proving religion wrong, saying "it's the devil" or "god did this magical thing." It's impossible to prove something undetectable doesn't exist. Btw, there's a giant lobster living in your room, and it follows you around wherever you go. This lobster is actually what created everything and is the real god. Oh, and you can't see it, smell it, touch it, hear it, or have anyone of knowing it really exists, but I'm telling you it does. Prove me wrong, I dare you to. All this b.s. about some other god making a bible and having some guy build an arc is lies made up by by the devil, and millions got sucked into it. You are therefore all going to hell. Once again, try proving me wrong.

99 Percent of all animal's are extinct according to some science I read. So I would say Noah did a shity ass job =D

its so easy to sit back in our own beliefs ,trying to defend them but im just confused, i believe in god like religion makes sense but at the same time agnoticism makes sense to it would explain a hell of alot if god existed, but it would make just as much sense if he didnt idk im just lost but im to young to really give a shit

99 Percent of all animal's are extinct according to some science I read. So I would say Noah did a shity ass job =D
cuz he was a lazy stoner, and that's a fact

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Originally Posted by BeatlesRGod

But the bible says god created adam and eve, and we have scientific evidence that we have evolved from other beings. The bible doesn't say we have evolved from microscopic organisms put on earth by god. I'm going by things stated in the bible and commonly believed. It doesn't say that god gave everything strength and energy to survive. Of course you can make up random bullshit about anything proving religion wrong, saying "it's the devil" or "god did this magical thing." It's impossible to prove something undetectable doesn't exist. Btw, there's a giant lobster living in your room, and it follows you around wherever you go. This lobster is actually what created everything and is the real god. Oh, and you can't see it, smell it, touch it, hear it, or have anyone of knowing it really exists, but I'm telling you it does. Prove me wrong, I dare you to. All this b.s. about some other god making a bible and having some guy build an arc is lies made up by by the devil, and millions got sucked into it. You are therefore all going to hell. Once again, try proving me wrong.

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Maybe God created life on earth, it evolved, and just as humans were about to be the next step in evolution, God then created Adam and Eve.

I'm not here to prove you wrong, I don't believe in god myself, I'm just saying there's no way to disprove god, as you're acknowledging. But if I truly believed in God, then I wouldn't be making up "random bullshit", I'd be attempting to justify my beliefs. A book with a finite amount of space can't possibly explain an infinite amount of possibilities.

i think god doesnt exist because he was created by the people of oldtimes as a method of scaring people into doing good. if your good, god rewards you, if your bad good punishes you. the thought of a super powerful being whoopin your ass doesnt sound that attractive and is even kinda scary.

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Originally Posted by Polymirize

God cannot exist because if she did, she would by definition be an absolute.

And there are no absolutes. Well, except that one I suppose. Or... shucks.

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"she" ....lmao....awww thats cute.

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Originally Posted by Hardcore Newbie

Maybe God created life on earth, it evolved, and just as humans were about to be the next step in evolution, God then created Adam and Eve.

I'm not here to prove you wrong, I don't believe in god myself, I'm just saying there's no way to disprove god, as you're acknowledging. But if I truly believed in God, then I wouldn't be making up "random bullshit", I'd be attempting to justify my beliefs. A book with a finite amount of space can't possibly explain an infinite amount of possibilities.

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I understand, and wasn't trying to attack you personally. I was just trying to state how ridiculous the notion of a god and religion is.

Because it takes longer than a sentence to explain why God would exist.

God doesn't exist because I created the universe and I'm not a god.

god is an outerspace scientist with a huge marble playing addition
lol

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Originally Posted by BeatlesRGod

I don't really care about this subject, so I'm not going to spend much time on it, but here's a couple things:
1. The whole Noah's arc thing makes 0 sense. What did the animals eat? What did Noah eat? How the fuck did he build an arc big enough to store 2 of every animal?

What scientific proof did you offer that the worldwide flood did not take place?

2. The bible claims the earth is 7,000 yrs. old (or something like that). Carbon dating and fossils (as well as other things) disprove that.

Where in the bible does it say that the earth is 7,000 years old?

3. Evolution disproves creationism, as there is PHYSICAL EVIDENCE backing evolution, and a really old book backing creation.

What is the physical evidence proving evolution?

But believe god and the bible blindly. There's no evidence supporting anything important in religion, but someone wrote a book about it and convinced a lot of people so it must be true. Also, just because something can be proved physically doesn't mean its actually real, right? Maybe it's just the devil doing his work.

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You started by saying that science easily disproves God, but you didn't bring anything to the table.

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Originally Posted by BeatlesRGod

I don't really care about this subject, so I'm not going to spend much time on it, but here's a couple things:
1. The whole Noah's arc thing makes 0 sense. What did the animals eat? What did Noah eat? How the fuck did he build an arc big enough to store 2 of every animal?
2 Peter 2:5 is them being Kept alive by God and Genesis 6:14-16 in part is some of the gideline he was to use. Building a ark would be impossable by your self your right but with the PLAINS MADE FROM GOD all Noah had to do was in Genesis 6:22 where he did Just as God told him.

2. The bible claims the earth is 7,000 yrs. old (or something like that). Carbon dating and fossils (as well as other things) disprove that.
Where? the 6 Days of creation? a Day in the 24 hr sence didn't even exsist so when god says he did something in one Day it's GOD CONCEPT OF A DAY. and guess what I bet his Days are a Lot longer than ours. thats why Revelation talks about the Last Days SOON to come because 2000 years ago when John was told Revelation (around about) this is only a short time for God.

3. Evolution disproves creationism, as there is PHYSICAL EVIDENCE backing evolution, and a really old book backing creation.

Evolution is Full of Holes, For Exsample Science CAN NOT explain why the universe doesn't work on the same laws for exsample, The law of Gravity and Electromagnetism. But as for Evolution they have never found these so called missing links, they just have theory.

But believe god and the bible blindly. There's no evidence supporting anything important in religion, but someone wrote a book about it and convinced a lot of people so it must be true. Also, just because something can be proved physically doesn't mean its actually real, right? Maybe it's just the devil doing his work.

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Job 9:6-10 & 38:31-33 talks about Star Constellations in 1473 B.C.E.!! and in Isaiah 40:22 the earth is called a Circle and in Job 26:7 It says God hangs the earth upon nothing. that back in 1473 B.C.E. Thats SOME of why I belive the Bible.

What do you think?

Zeitgeist.

If you watch just 1 more movie in your lifetime, let it be this one. Trust me, love it or hate it, you will be glad you watched it. Rapid mental/ideal expansion minus the LSD.

WARNING: following may be considered blasphemous to others:

This movie shows that God/Jesus Christ/Krishna/Horus/all religious doctrines, from all eras, are all just (for the most part) misinterpreted metaphors for science & astrology. Just 1/2 an hour is all it takes. Part 1 is all you need to watch religion-wise. You will be amazed, I was.

Also, I must say, I have not researched any of the claims made in this movie, nor have I researched the sources cited (given.) Personally, I have been, and continue to be, agnostic. I do believe there is a higher power, but I do not claim/believe that I know who exactly he/she/it, is/was/or will be. This movie does though make the most logical sense out of anything I have been told/taught to believe/shown in my life. (The movie as a whole also, regarding all issues addressed, IMO)

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Originally Posted by BeatlesRGod

I understand, and wasn't trying to attack you personally. I was just trying to state how ridiculous the notion of a god and religion is.

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Just saying, calling someone else's idea ridiculous isn't a good way to open conversation with someone, especially after stating that science easily proves god and religion, and then acknowledging that it's impossible to do so.

OK OK... I give in.. OK.. I am god. Don't question me. Just BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by bhouncy

OK OK... I give in.. OK.. I am god. Don't question me. Just BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You sound like us Christians!!! :stoned:

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Originally Posted by bhouncy

OK OK... I give in.. OK.. I am god. Don't question me. Just BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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now that we've finally got you cornered, i've got a bone to pick with you. what the hell is up with okra? was it really meant to be eaten or is this just another one of your cruel jokes. and while we're on the subject of cruel jokes, i really don't appreciate the whole "multiple religions" thing. next time around, keep it simple.

God does not exisit..
Because the person.. feels... guilt, fear, or ignorance.
God loves.. I'll accept it freely, receive grace.. through faith, to works becomming a Christ-like person. Anyone wanna hit this..? pass it on.
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PASS THAT SEAWEED!!! :jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by Hardcore Newbie

Just saying, calling someone else's idea ridiculous isn't a good way to open conversation with someone, especially after stating that science easily proves god and religion, and then acknowledging that it's impossible to do so.

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What I was saying is it's impossible to do so, but science has been disproving things supporting a god and things in the bible, as close as you can get to disproving a god.