They also eat their young.Quote:
Originally Posted by w4terb0ng
Pigs love to eat live chickens, so where are we going on this?
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They also eat their young.Quote:
Originally Posted by w4terb0ng
Pigs love to eat live chickens, so where are we going on this?
You know, you insult my family, and I politely ask you to stop, and then you reply with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by death of sXe
I never knew vegetarians could be such assholes... oh wait, I sort of did, that's why I'm not a vegetarian.
As for you, fuckface, that wasn't a threat when I asked to stop insulting my family, it was a polite request. But I see you can't be civil enough for that. So how about you go fuck by sticking a carrot up your ass.
Tata.
Besides, like I'm gonna take dietary advice from a necromancer...Quote:
Originally Posted by death of sXe
WTF man, you don't like to eat dead flesh, but it's ok to use dead humans in your little magic?
hhhAhaha
So...humans have made concentration camps for animals and people, driven entire species to extinction, opened holes in the atmsophere and dropped atomic and nuclear weapons. According to your logic we are far less deserving of compassion and should be ground up and put in your belly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtRollins
Wow. Where did you avatar go, F L E S H? Oh the stonedness... :D
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Euphoric
obviously they're going to show the WORST examples they can find; you have to take it with a grain of saltQuote:
Originally Posted by kyle
i was watching this interesting thing on discovery of this clean, comfortable automatic cow-milking machine :) even cleans their teets :) but hardly widespread i'm sure
Im a PETA member and was vegan for 2 years. Now its more of an on and off vegetarian. I feel guilty about eating meat but if I can I avoid it. Actually PETA.com has some awsome food site links for vegan cookies and soy products, hell EVERYTHING haha.
just watched the vid; that really is horrid; terrible, not sure what to say; i like meat; hell, most of the cows i see around are hanging out on the plains eating grass though, doesn't look so bad; of course the slaughterhouse might be horrid; the thing with the chickens, arghhh....this is some bad shit
and i was reading that the organic/free range stuff is no better? fuck, bad shit
if i can say anything it's: if you can know where your food is coming from, like the farm itself, you might be able to find what sort of standards they have; local is good
I would give my extra 2 cents as a PETA member and start naming facts but alas...my fingers would give out from all the typing haha. Theres just so much I could say and tell people but I dont even KNOW where to begin.
as someone already said, they're gonna find hte worst of the worst....
sorry, the treatment they show is bad, but it don't change my view one bit.... to me they're food... that's why we're on the top fo the food chain... would you prefer me to go into the woods and start hunting my own meat? it takes an extremely skilled hunter to actually bring down anythign quickly, mostly (especially bow hunters, which before guns were around was the major hunting method, and before that, people crowded around a big animal, such as bison, with spears and just kept sticking the animal til it was down) they have to track the animal for hours folllowing the dripping blood...
i'm not gonna stop eating meat, so you tel lme what's better? letting a company do it for me, in which the animal dies relatively quickly, or wound an animal and let it bleed and run in frantic for hours.... personally i pick the first...
either way, as a ron white says "i did not climb to the top of the food chain to eat fucking carrots" another comedy (unrelated) states "sure you can do it, but that don't mean it's to be done.." sure you can live off vegetables, but that don't mean it's the best thing to do...
i love my t-bones, and i don't plan to give them up, i love my pork chops, and i don't plan to give them up, i love my chicken, and i don't plan to give it up either..
as for the castrating a baby pig... so what? like that's so much diffrent from circumsizing a baby... "without any type of pain medication..." and? baby humans don't get any type of anesthesia either...
the world is cruel place... most of the PETA fanatics just piss me off.... like tha twhole deal on fishing that was posted here awhile back...
fine you wanna live off vegetables fruit and other shit, i ain't gonna try to convert you...
BUT STOP TRYING TO FUCKING CONVERT ME (not intended for anyone here, just those fanatical peta people...)
btw, if you really wanna get technical about it, when one predator stops hunting it's prey, it throws EVERYTHING off... if we instantly just stopped eating these animals, and let them run free, at the population that exists today, that could seriously fuck up the earth.... tehre's no telling what kind of effect it could have... (not me trying to justify it, cuz i could honestly give a shit what someone thinks of me eating meat, it's just a fact, plain and simple...)
^^ But im a PETA member and I dont push it down anyones throat. I gurantee you that out of all the PETA people only a select few are those crazy blood throwin' nut jobs. Thats like saying that all Muslims are terrorists. You cant judge a whole group of people over what a few a-holes did.
never said all peta members are that way, in fact, i plain stated the fanatical ones..
if you aren't excesively trying to convert me (one time of asking me to go veg. is enough, if i didn't mkae the decision hte first time, i'm not gonna make it change the 100th..) or some other crap, you're fine by me... live and let live... it's a life choice, i've made mine, and youv'e made yours, i respect yours, so damnit, respect mine...
damnit I DO respect yours sir! haha *shakes fist*
Well that settles it. From now on I am only eating Vegetarians
Its not propaganda at all hun. It was just a point of view. Besides im a PETA member AND a republican. A proud republican for that matter.
please atlesat tell me you're not proud of bush...Quote:
Originally Posted by rebgirl420
Its a love-hate relationship for me. The only things I dont realllly like about him has to be his view on abortion, gay marriage and the fact that he's uber religious. But besides that im good.
Yea carve those animals up! hell yea! I actually went to a vegetarian restaurant tonight with my family for my sisters birthday. it didn't taste as good as a thick steak off a cows ass, but it was cool to try for a change. The way i see it is that there would be no synthetic vegetarian chicken or pork or any of that shit, so in my books vegetarians kindof owe meat eaters, or else theyd just be munching on tofu and potatoes.
McDonalds is too good in my opinion. As is meat in general.
One man's truth is another man's propaganda.. And if you can't handle an ADULT DEBATE about a topic then I would appreciate it if you just didn't bother to reply, since your post was, well, pointless. Yes, there are different kinds of people in the world... Is that all you're trying to say? Because the other point about nobody telling others what they believe is probably the most stupid statement I've ever read on this site, and I've been posting here for years. Congratulations! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sp00n16
Hey that's fair enough.. Sure I am asking people to quit eating meat, but I understand that not everyone can or will... But I appreciate the fact that you're at least showing a little compassion. :)
Who resurrected this thread, anyway? lol It's old...
If God did not want us to eat meat he would not have made it taste so good!
Going for a burger now
NCM
I'm a vegetarian and all, and I've been one for many many years, but one thing that really irks me is when vegetarians get all preachy and proselytizing. Yeah, I feel I'm doing the ethically right thing and there's definitely room for explaining the moral basis for our vegetarianism, but we don't need to call them murderers every time they eat a hamburger, we don't need to try to outlaw the meat industry, and we don't need to picket fur coat stores.
People love meat and they're going to love meat for a long time; right now, few people are going to be convinced to change their eating habits based on our moral philosophy. As long as that's the case, trying to take down the meat industry is pretty futile. It's like trying to outlaw drugs even though lots of people love drugs and cannot imagine going on without drugs.
I feel the best thing to do is to continue doing what we think is morally right, and explain how we think when the issue comes up, but not to proselytize and alienate our carnivorous friends. Eventually a future enlightened society might give up meat-eating altogether, but don't get any delusions that this is going to happen anytime soon. Right now, there are way more important things for people to worry about (like human beings).
not eating meat is allowing those animals to die in vain. just my opinion
ever hear of supply and demand?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenport
I dont give no damn about no nothing, what are you gonna eat for the rest of your life??? grass,leafy vegetables and shit?LOL kidding,... Well i would if i could stop eating it but it just wont let me.
you put across a good arguement...Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianStoner420
:rolleyes:
if your dog tasted like pork,
would you eat her too?
yes i would eat dog if it tastes like pork. i am meat eater, im a hunter and an all around out-doorsy type. i will eat meat till the day i die. i dont care how inhumanely animals are treated. doesnt bother me in the least. nature is cruel, humans arent above it all.
That's silly,,, cause we know cats taste like pork...Quote:
Originally Posted by BizzleLuvin
prolly... if that were my las tsource of meat cuz every other 'normal' meat dissapeared, well fine so be it...
nothing is EVER gonna stop me from eatting what i like and i like meat.... if the animals got a problem with it...
well then let them say something but until they tell me so, i'll assume they like to be eaten...
oh yeah, animals eat us too when they get the chance... why don't you convince them to stop eatting us first....
Thats why I only eat animals I kill myself, they dont kill their animals nearly as brutally in the industry so I figure im doing my part.
so i eat all kinds of meat, but i also get my own meat, not from some production line, i'm a fisherman and we catch and kill legal size fish for food, with a line and rod in fresh water lakes, killed as humanely as we can, is that wrong? is it wrong for a hunter to make a kill and feed to his family what he has killed? i only go as big as fish though, ain't into cleaning some deer, but really, what i get from this thread is not to become vegetarian, but hunt on your own, and get your own meat humanely as you can, then you don't have to worry about bullshit like that, which isn't the standard anyway, i can guarantee that, that's a bullshit propanganda film, but i understand that animals are treated badly before slaughter, and there are places like that, but that's not the norm...so go out and hunt for yourself, then i guess these people would be happy...or would they? are they pissed off because of cruelty to animals? i don't think so, it's becuase you eat meat, bottom line, i don't care if they were given a painless lethal injection before slaughter, the same arguments would be here.
Vegetarianism is a good thing- usually healthier, but people with anemia have to watch their iron intake...
I just can't STAND PETA... They're such unbelievable, money-hungry, attention-seeking, pushy assholes.
EDIT: I only eat local free-range and no hormone/antibiotic meat/chicken, so say what you will, but I'm not supporting factory farming.
Personally, I think veggie burgers and hotdogs are tastier than meat, but you know, nothing beats me in it's own concept.
my bad.. meat*