why are you talking to yourself???
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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
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why are you talking to yourself???
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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
IMO, no 13 year old is 'mature' enough to handle pot. Did i 1st use it when i was under age? Sure, was it wrong? Yeah, i think so. Did it harm me? I dont know.
I keep hearing how 'mature' some of the young people here are, but to be honest, as an adult, i dont see a lot of it...Sorry kids, but you shouldnt have the choice when you are a child. I know im probably the most hated man on the board now, but thats fine.
18 years is my VoteQuote:
Originally Posted by OzzyOz
What is he now? A brain surgeon?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by ghandi
Nicotine is a mood altering substance. I smoke cigarettes, and if I don't have one, I'm grumpy. It is also mind altering, as in it alters your brain chemistry. Actually, I should say it's brain altering. Mind altering like Marijuana? no. Worse than Marijuana? definitely. Why should I not be able to consume Cannabis if I can legally increase the risk of myself getting cancer greatly? Cannabis puts you in an altered state of mind, but at least it's not nearly as harmful as tobacco/nicotine. Why shouldn't an 18 year old be able to drink a beer too? It's silly. All laws against controlled substances are bullshit, really. I am not condoning the use of crack, and meth, etc, but the laws really do nothing. If someone wants something, they will get it... regardless of age. But if Cannabis were legalized, 18 or 19 would definitely be a fair age. At 18 one is legally an adult. Why should 18 year olds not be treated like adults too? 18 year olds are just as liable for committing a crime as a 21 year old, so why should the age be 21? An 18 year old could go to prison for 5 years, just as a 21 year old could be. Do you see what I am saying? As maturity goes, 21 is not a big step. I think 18 and 21 year olds, in general, would treat it the same. I've seen crazy parties involving 21 year olds, so what makes them so much more responsible with mind tering substances? Really, though... 18 is the legal adult age in the US.
17 is a bit too young, because 17 year olds are still in high school usually, and that could condone the use of it while in high school. That would be pretty sad if someone legally went to high school stoned every day, and didn't learn a damn thing.
You and me both!!Quote:
Originally Posted by aekdb
Just look through the lounge and all the stupid shit they talk about, then try telling me that kids are mature.
things talked about, use of language some spelling (im not talking about typos), knowledge of issues, etc...
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Originally Posted by CityBoyGoneCountry
I just wrote about a pages worth on this topic.
But I realized it doesn't matter.
It's a personal choice, and from the looks of it, it seems like young people will be able to make that choice even easier in the future.
Personally, I fail to see the logic of teens going to parties and ending up in the ER for alcohol poisoning, when they could of just smoked a joint and discussed philosophy.
Or taking copious amounts of mom's painkillers becuase their boyfriend just dumped them, when they could of just sat down with the folks, had a cry, and then lit the peace pipe for a relaxing dinner.
Teens are idiots. But is that their fault? NO. It's socieities fault. For not educating them correctly, advising them correctly, or just simply genetics...
enough rant.
18's a good age anyway. Probably be easier not to get carded...
Um, its not society, its the parents. Its not societies job to raise children its the parents.Quote:
I But is that their fault? NO. It's socieities fault. For not educating them correctly, advising them correctly,
I'm not talking about raising children in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by aekdb
Society/government/idiots sling lies to manipulate children. Those children grow up and have kids. Is it the adults fault that they too were misguided and illadvised on the subjects of drugs, that they in turn misguide their own children? No. It's the deceiver who deceived the children who in turn had children and became parents.
We have the internet now, which is changing society a LOT, but before this illuminating invention, could you really blame the parents for accepting truth told to them by a government whose rules and codes they have to abide by?
blah, blah blah...peole need to wake up and quit relying on the GVT for anything. Quit blaming the govt for everything.
DOnt blame society for the ills of the world then worship MTV...
Ill be honest, the more liberal society has become, the more fucked up its become...
blame MTV
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Originally Posted by Inferius
It's nobody's fault. It's just the cycle of life. We are born without knowledge. We acquire knowledge through living and experiencing and learning. We learn more everyday. The longer you have lived and experienced, the more you have learned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferius
Teens do not yet understand this cycle. They think they have already learned all there is to learn. But they will learn more, and by then they will no longer be teens.
It's that obvious is it??
:D
16 to consume in my opinion. You should be mature enough to handle it.
little late but figured i would add my opinion...18. if you can kill yourself with cigarettes you should be able to smoke the good old cannabis that is so much better :)
I think if cannabis was legilezed then i think it shud b 16 same as normal smoking
I said 18. My reasoning behind that decision is because at the age of 18 I think most people have enough sense in them to make informed decisions about things. Younger people often do drugs or the like because it's 'cool' or because all their friends do it, etc.
where i live it's 21 to drink 18 to smoke cigs and 16 to drive. But as early as 17 you can join the army and risk your life. so to me it should be 17 to smoke cannabis and drink. if you can risk your life in the armed forces then by god give that man or woman a beer and joint!!
I absolutely agree. I'm sixteen, and have been smoking cannabis for approximately six months. I started because while previously I had always believed the government lies and agreed with their stance that all drugs were bad, I then did some research and discovered that there was a lot more grey than I had always been taught. Some people are mature enough to handle ganja at fourteen, and some people are twenty-two and not ready for it. Age is entirely subjective and reliant on the individual, not a generalization. Many would consider sixteen too young to be smoking it, but I do so, very frequently, and I get As and Bs in school and in my spare time write, philosophize, and study politics and what I can do about it. So much for stereotypes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billionfold
You know, I've been hearing quite a bit of discrimination against teenagers here, and frankly, I don't like it. Not that anybody would take my views seriously, since I'm simply a piece-of-shit 16-year-old who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, right? Hell, a lot of teens are dumb, I'll grant you that, but I'm far more intelligent than my grandfather, who is extremely narrow-minded and doesn't have a clue about anything. The same applies in many cases. There is currently a movement underway for an increase in the individual freedom of adults, but no one seems to care two bits about the rights of youth. To say that teens are immature is true in many cases, but it is a generalization with many exceptions, and laws based on generalizations are bullshit. Why don't we make it illegal for Irishmen to drink, because everyone knows they're going to become an alcoholic, right? See what I'm saying? I'll turn 21 on September 26, 2011, and according to many of your views I will remain far too immature to smoke pot up until September 25, 2011, 11:59 p.m. Then at the stroke of midnight I will magically become the proper age to smoke.
13 because thats when most of lifes stresses are there with high school and puberty an everythin u can get quite depressed, i no i did an thats when yor parents can control ur use and they can teach u when ur young
Its legal to smoke in ur own home, its also legal to carry up to an eighth if ur 18, its also legal to grow hemp!
Fukin legalise it man, so much easier and sociable
Im not going to give a long winded reply but I think 16 is a good number. Thats the age I was when I tried it. Itll give that person or persons time to think if they want to continue smoking pot or just not to. Me I love it and I dont see anything wrong with it.
The government especially in the united states is highly responsible for the problems of your country. So are the corporationsQuote:
Originally Posted by aekdb
I would say itâ??s mainly the lack of control over corporations has done this to your society.
I hope we all accept their control over government, lets not debate that.
Most citizens are drones. They have their goals, ie, to have a happy family. And people use these desires to manipulate the population for their own benefit. You can hardly blame it on the individual citizens when you look at the history.
First they cut back education, 20 years later you have a population who cant defend their minds; makes it easy to trick them into going to war or buy your products
One of the reasons the US is so militarized.
â??when something [war] becomes this profitable, your going to see a lot more of itâ?
nope there shouldent be any age at all... if your heart desiers to smoke weed like mine did at 11 then go ahead and smoke weed and no one has the right to tell you otherwise because it your own life born with free will simple as that. I mean if your heart desieres killing ppl or doing crack etc.. then yes I reccomend not doing what your heart desieres at all.... but if the gov wants to put control over buying it then I would say 18 just to go along with everything else nowadays being 18 but i believe there shouldent be any age limit at all. but there should be no penalty if any one under that age smokes it..
^^^ that post sounds resonable
I whole heartedly agree. I was 11yrs old when I started as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by lazy smoker7
But the government will ALWAYS try to govern everything and anything they can. So I think that 18yrs of age would be righteous simply because of the fact that in the US you can purchase deadly substances, such as tobacco, at that age. Not to mention you can purchase any kind of OTC drug at the age of 18 as well.
Personally I don't understand why Cannabis is even considered an illegal substance anywhere. As long as there are restrictions in place I think it should be completely tolerated and decriminalized everywhere.
Alcohol and tobacco both have worse reputations for death, birth defects, pollution and the list goes on, than Cannabis EVER has...I just don't get it.
The only sense I've ever been able to make out of it is that because the substance is so readily available and easy to self-produce that they cannot make money off of it. Unlike tobacco and alcohol.
Why is the US in such a deficit? Well, think about the millions of dollars that are confiscated every WEEK from drug busts. Do you honestly think all that unlawful money is going to go back into the peoples pockets? Hell no. It goes into the agencies pockets. And do you think that the drugs confiscated from the scenes are being completely destroyed? Hell no. It goes back out on the street to regain its value and the circle begins again...
If they were to legalize Cannabis, I think that they would lose a lot of "tips" as I like to consider it...
does very much depend on the person.. but... im thinkin 16 really.. :jointsmile:
The teen in me says 18.
The adult in me says 21.
The EDUCATED person in me says 25.
feedback?
at least 18
I don't care what age they make it, as long as the penalties for using it underage are extremely lenient. Like a 30 dollar ticket, no matter how many times you get caught and it never goes on your record.
thatd be so sweet if when its made legal they made the legal age at 16 long as you get good grades and youd have to have on your lisence your gpa or somemthing....i doubt it would be though..probably 18
i really feel that 16 is a good age because that is when it helped me out the most by setting me straight rather than making me unmotivated and shit, but alot of kids i knew used it irresponsibly and fucked their grades over...thus i believe 18 is perfect age for all.
it should be the same as for smoking tobacco, 18
when you have pubes.
crouch rockets are one of the largest doners of human parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
Ask any emergency room people, its a sad thing.
crouch rocket = motor cycles
I guess I'm a fuddy duddy bc I think you should at least be in high school b4 you make a choice of such monumental per portions.
mature is the proper "age".It is different for everyone.generally though,i would say 16+,
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Originally Posted by DazedandConfused
i agree fully. i picked "any age". well maybe not as young as 5...but 6 is a good year to start :jointsmile:
Look at countries where they have no age limit for alcohol, they don't have nearly as many problems as we have in the US alcohol abuse. I think it would be best to not have any age limit on marijuana, or alcohol and tobacco. Of course I know that will never happen in the US, not with the mentality voters have here, so I put 16 simply because I know most people start at around that age so it only makes sense to set a limit at that range.
I think any older and you would create the same problems of abuse that we have with tobacco and alcohol because parents don't want to talk about it, they just say "wait till you are old enough". It's sad how so many parents won't talk to their kids about these things and just point to the laws and tell them to wait, as if that is really going to stop them!
**Edit** Opps, I'm an idiot and didn't see the "Any age limit" choice...lol sorry
Buy at 16 with ID card confirmation ONLY or otherwise no sale.. buy at 18 and over too but also with ID check to make sure the country goes well with no probs :)