Do you believe in god?

Edgar....I don't wish to control what you believe.....but talking about it would be fine...:)

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Originally Posted by F L E S H

Yeah, and on the issue of family morals, where Christians claim to hold a monopoly, isn't it ironic that the divorce rate in the more religious southern states is way higher than that liberal, amoral bastion that is Massachussetts?

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It's an example of seperation of states.

Somebody make up a God we can all agree on!!!

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Originally Posted by likemclever

And there is so much that science can not â??explainâ?� or show â??proofâ?� about that we come into contact with on a daily basisâ?¦..I think we are spiritual creatures for a reasonâ?¦.

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You know, defenders of creationism always end up saying that, and it's not true at all. The only things science can't explain are the ludicrous claims religious people make. Because, if you know where to look for them, scientific journals are full day after day of new discoveries which themselves continually lead to new discoveries. Does science explain everything? Not yet, but we're damn near close. And the proof for theories like evolution are out there, creatoinists just tend to ignore it or ask questions in a circualr manner, so that you never get anywhere.

The reason I feel so alone.

I mean, what kind of stuff are we supposed to be looking for?
I think the Universe if amazing enough, I don't need to look behind it.

Edit: Just posted a long post, but can't be assed. It will just be ignored, or misinterpreted.

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

I mean, what kind of stuff are we supposed to be looking for?
I think the Universe if amazing enough, I don't need to look behind it.

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but sometimes something else pops out at you, and you feel an urge to explore

Like what??? A spirit? Or a dream?
We have ghost-hunters and psychologists.
But to look beyond the Universe and into God, is beyond me.

well, for some reason it's different for me. i feel something, it's a strong feeling that i can't describe.

but what pops up at me is actually the boogie-man

Don't you watch A & E when those ghost-hunting shows come on? It seems like they are trying to explain the most-subtle occurences in a place. It's weird what they pick up, but I'm not sure what's really going on, so I watch the Yankees game.

haha, yeah i've seen that shit. it's pretty interesting, i like to learn more about the science associated with these random occurrences, but tv doesn't show it so i too just watch the yankees game.. plus it's easier to follow when i'm drunk and high

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Originally Posted by MyAntiDrugIsAmy

haha, yeah i've seen that shit. it's pretty interesting, i like to learn more about the science associated with these random occurrences, but tv doesn't show it so i too just watch the yankees game.. plus it's easier to follow when i'm drunk and high

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" like to learn more about the science associated with these random occurrences." -Amy.

That's the best part about "Cops", "World's Wildest Police Video's", and "Maximum Exposure".

Stop talking about GHoST hunters. :(

Ok, let's talk about Stokerhunters.

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Originally Posted by likemclever

..I think we are spiritual creatures for a reasonâ?¦.

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... and I believe that that reason is because Christians, as well as other religious peoples, are afraid of what comes next, after life.

bah dont bother 420 when you make a good point they just ignore it and pretend you never said anything at all.....like "what hunh oh I must have missed that...."

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Originally Posted by weirdo79

1. Thesaurus not dictionary actually. And look at the definitions of both and take an english language class....

2. Nobody did believe in penicillin UNTIL it was discovered.....Nice circular reasoning though ;). (Science doesnt work like religions)

3. Occam's Razor is actually the most widely used scientific thought process, but hey you attack it all you want(after all its an attack on logic and thats obviously not a strong thing in religious circles).

4. O.J had more than hearsay conjecture etc, ever heard of DNA.....Why do you think that trial was such a travesty and everyone knew he did it. Because the evidence came out and it was physical.....(ie: forensic physical evidence, BLOOD.....) Nice try though almost as nice as your dismissal of Occam's Razor without any actual counter point.

5. There is more at stake your correct, however that doesnt negate my point that every single religion has zero evidence....arguing the merits of violence of the christian god vs the sugar plum fairy are nonsensical as it was allegorical. Neither have evidence yet one is believed one is not.....now does it make sense to you?

Most "miracles" are given simple explanations and proved does this mean that "God" did the rest....I dont understand what your trying to say by "teasing" about most and unexplainable(which is defined as not being able to explain something at the moment...not forever...) I'm pointing out Nessie is as likely (and in fact MORE likely than any god showing up). As are Aliens ironically (something made impossible by the bible and christian dogma as "were" the only ones in the universe made especially for us remember....).

But hey pick up the strawman and beat that sucker to death and don't counter any point I dont mind in the least gives me a good laugh ;).

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1. I said dictionary because I think you need to look up the word synonymâ?¦..and Iâ??ve had more than my fair share of English classes.

2. I donâ??t know what your trying to say here but that is my argumentâ?¦.if we didnâ??t believe in penicillin before it was discoveredâ?¦â?¦.than that would makes us wrongâ?¦..because it did existâ?¦â?¦non-belief in it didnâ??t stop Fleming from looking for itâ?¦and discovering itâ?¦â?¦..it was there the whole time.

3. As you have already said religion doesnâ??t work like science.

4. if you donâ??t like the O.J. Simpson analogy â?¦â?¦than just replace it with any other dirt bag that got off because of lack of evidenceâ?¦â?¦just because someone isnâ??t condemned doesnâ??t mean they didnâ??t do it.

5. Here we come back to proof again��religion is not about proof��and if your waiting for it than you will be waiting until the day you die.


The reason Iâ??m not responding is because Iâ??ve been posting to this thread for a while now and Iâ??m growing tired of itâ?¦â?¦Iâ??d rather use my high on more light hearted matters.

Peace~

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Originally Posted by MightyFourTwenty

... and I believe that that reason is because Christians, as well as other religious peoples, are afraid of what comes next, after life.

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I'm saying we are born spirtual creatures.........not devlope that way.

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Originally Posted by weirdo79

What do we come in contact with on a daily basis that science can neither explain or verify? (note daily basis) Just curious.

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When I wrote that I was thinking about Intuition��..not instinct��Intuition.

Poor girl, is getting double-teamed!

Sounds kinda yummy.....jk.

oh, I didn't see the "jk".

I was gonna...

Hey likem :)

I don't mean anything by this.. but your last post directed at weirdo demonstrates all the reasons that i'll never believe in any god or be a part of a religion.

GHoST

ok,

I guess we don't understand each other equally .....

Likem~

Both you post-ees have force-fed my notion that I am not involved in this, and God is a name, you don't see people going around saying Jehovah Bless You and Buddha Bless You and Allah Bless You, so, you're God is you, making everything God, because I never looked it up in Cambridge Universal Dictionary.

C. U. D.

I meant, after you sneeze.

Intuition is simple physical and social cue's we take from each other. Some like to call it their "gut" but its really your brain just doing incredibly fast math.

You can keep coming up with all the circular comments you want as to the dictionary but its still simply faith= belief without evidence ignorance = belief without evidence.....it's amazing Racism and Religion have something in common...

Your defensiveness about someone pointing out the fallacies in your logic (like your defence of O.J. getting off, when the evidence was quite clear(contrary to your claims) , it was societal bias that got him off, the evidence was cut and dry hence the outcry (I've said it twice now but hey keep ignoring the facts christians do it all the time) DNA IS CONCLUSIVE...... :).

(you also still haven't given one example of these things we come in contact with everyday intuition or otherwise ;) ).

Im not waiting for proof just dont expect me not to ridicule you for believing in fairy tales and then dismissing others. My favourite point ever.....

Why is your God real and not Zeus or Aphrodite (one of my personal faves ;) ).

You can believe anything you want , for instance I can believe gravity doesnt exist or that evolution isnt a fact. That however does not actually change the reality that both exist and are factual :).

I'm done with this "spirtuality" fourm......so everybody can just get back to patting each other on the back about what they don't believe .....

Peace~

Arguing about religion is always a bad idea. Two sides, both stuck in their ways.. one's obviously gonna get upset or angry. Sorry likem. :(

Not mad Gost...

But I'm not gonna try and have a serious conversation with someone whos only objective is to be condescending and thinks that being right is more important than being true.

No one will ever have enough of what the other requires��

Peace~

Well, it was fun while it lasted, I wasn't trying to piss anyone off, so if I did sorry. Anyways, good theological discussion ... err, debate ... Or w/e you want to call it.

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Originally Posted by likemclever

I'm done with this "spirtuality" fourm......so everybody can just get back to patting each other on the back

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Let's get down to it...I have an itch.

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Originally Posted by MightyFourTwenty

Well, it was fun while it lasted, I wasn't trying to piss anyone off, so if I did sorry. Anyways, good theological discussion ... err, debate ... Or w/e you want to call it.

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ha ha no worries Mighty one.

I seriously have no hard feelings for anyone....

I'm just tired of this thread...



peace all arround~

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

Let's get down to it...I have an itch.

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Before we get down to anything....you should see a Dr. about that itch.... :D

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Originally Posted by weirdo79

Why is your God real and not Zeus or Aphrodite (one of my personal faves ;)

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i think that Zeus and Aphrodite were the greek's way of making sense of things around them as every religion does, and who knows, maybe they did exist, i don't know for a fact that they didn't. but what i do know is the reason i believe in God over anything else is i feel an interaction. now maybe that's just my brain relaxing and maybe i'm tripping out and it could be all psychological, but afterwards i feel a comfort, and i feel so open to everyone and i get more open-minded. it's not like it's something ritualistic for me, hell i don't go to church or say specific prayers or quote the bible, but i feel something different going on, something deeper than i know how to explain.

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Originally Posted by MyAntiDrugIsAmy

but afterwards i feel a comfort, and i feel so open to everyone and i get more open-minded. it's not like it's something ritualistic for me, hell i don't go to church or say specific prayers or quote the bible, but i feel something different going on, something deeper than i know how to explain.

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Originally Posted by likemclever

Before we get down to anything....you should see a Dr. about that itch.... :D

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Uh Oh, I think I opened my mouth too soon.

I meant, I've loved being scratched on my back ever since I was little.