Jake ~ We thank you for the kind words and we are very much looking forward to going purple.:D
We tried to upload some pics from today but I guess we're running into the same problem that shovelhandle had.
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Jake ~ We thank you for the kind words and we are very much looking forward to going purple.:D
We tried to upload some pics from today but I guess we're running into the same problem that shovelhandle had.
Hey, how are those outside male plants doing?
They succumbed to the heat several weeks ago when it hit 109. I miss those 109 degree days. Can't wait 'til it starts cooling off again.:D It was 114 yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by fdsaasdf
Looks like the pics will upload today. Taken with and without flash.
1 & 2 are BA #3
3 & 4 are BA #5
5 is AK #1
Here are the rest of yesterday's pics.
1 & 2 are AK #1
3 is a group shot
Oh yea. We pinched a little off one of the BA's yesterday. Boy oh boy, it sure doesn't take much.:D:jointsmile::stoned:
Looks like that plant got snowed on, haha! :jointsmile:
Mrs. McToker and I really like this part of a grow since we get to see more and more sugar (as the wife calls it) each day.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by fdsaasdf
Them are looking chunky, Bub. Noice! :jointsmile:
After a discussion with Shovelhandle over on his log, we've decided to hold off on adding molasses pending further research.
We dropped the CalMag from 10ml to 7.5ml. That puts it at 400ppm. Next feeding day we'll drop it to 300ppm.
Buds are getting plumper every day.:) I realize it's like comparing apples to oranges but we can see where the buds appear denser under the HPS than they did under the CFL's on the last grow. We don't know if it's the genetics difference or the light or both.
Almost forgot. We got purpled yesterday. Thanks Killa.
Who could have guessed? McT is powered by Mopar. :jointsmile:
My everyday driver is a '66 Belvedere II 318wideblock.
Hauled a friend's 89 civic on a 20 foot flat bed for 5 hours off of a homemade bumper hitch just 2 days ago.
begood Mrs. and Mr. McT.
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Yup BeFree, we've owned 'em all from slant sixes, including a built one, to highly modified 440's. Well, everything except a Hemi. We plan to remedy that as soon as our 4x4 is paid off. I'm leaning towards a Charger but Mrs. McT really wants a new Challenger.:jointsmile: All I care is that I can blip the throttle and make it go WaahPaah.:jointsmile::D;)
Bud weight seems to be becoming an issue. I found one branch broken and the bud just dangling. Couldn't rescue it so we lopped it off. Fortunately it wasn't a main cola.
One main cola (BA #2) just kind of fell over. This one twisted the stem rather than a break so we splinted it and will hope for the best.
As we watered we went through and tied up some of the lesser branches. Gonna have to get some bamboo supports real soon.
I just fealt like snapping a couple pics so #1 is the splinted BA and #2 is the main cola on AK #1 with fill flash on.
plants look great....glad everything got to you safe and sound......looking forward to seeing other play with some of my hard work! stay safe brotha!
killa
Haha, you know that you've done well when you are having problems with bud weight. They are looking better and better every day. Job well done, man. :thumbsup:
:jointsmile:buds look tasty! excellent grow guys.:thumbsup:
We thank y'all for the kind words.
We fed the ladies a day early, earlier this week. Had to run out of town on family business for a couple days. As of this morning they are back on schedule.
Finally got a chance to use the microscope on this grow. On a few buds, the hairs were starting to change color and shrivel up a bit. A once over with the scope showed that they are not ready. Trichs are still mostly clear with no amber ones in sight.
One AK and the bagseed don't look like they'll finish at the same time as the others. Looks like they'll need several weeks longer. A couple others may take an extra week or so.
looking good tokers! glad everything is coming together for y'all!
-shake
Well, I guess we now know why bud weight was becoming a problem. The ladies are pregnant.:(:(:(
We thought we were being quite diligent in our watch for nanners. We missed 'em....... big time. Seems the bagseed hermed on us and pollinated the entire crop.
Bad news: No sensemilla:(:(:(
The Good news: Plenty of seeds for future grows. We'll keep any seeds even though we know the plants may be prone to go hermie. We figure it might make for decent "every day smoke".
As punishment, the bagseed plant has already been pulled from the tent, pruned and currently drying.
I guess we'll just proceed as planned, as far as timing. We have about a week to go until we start cutting nutes and begin the flush.
We're chalking this one up to overcrowding. Too many plants to be able to keep proper tabs on them.
We wanted to get some seeds but not this way.
Now, for a little levity........ We call the bagseed strain Old Man. So, the Old Man x AK-47 will become AARP ( Armed And Really Pissed ) The Old Man x Blue Apollo will be ......... to be determined. Suggestions will be entertained.:D
Hey, gotta find a bright side somewhere.;)
Oh noooo! :( That sucks so bad, McToker.
Yup, at least we'll have plenty of smoke while we build the new farm.
After discussing it, the Mrs. and I figure any resulting seeds ought to be called Last Resort. We'll save them but with seeds from good genetics on hand it's unlikely we'll use them.
The new grow room begins. Today we're laying out the basic dimensions and we predict that walls (framed) will be up within a week.
sorry to hear bout your loss
Hey, it's all good. It's not like they won't be smokable. The Mrs. and I will just chalk it up to a lesson learned.
thats the spirit.
Hopefully it'll just last you 9 weeks, hahaha. :rastasmoke::rastasmoke:
Since we discovered we were with seeds, we stopped regular nutes and went to Ph'd water with only CalMag. Today, before watering, we hauled out the microscope to check the trichs. They are at about 90% cloudy with quite a bit of amber.
All of our homework as far as when to harvest was based on being unpollinated. Now that we are "with seed" I suppose much of that goes out the window. We know that once they are "with seed" THC production stops and all energy is devoted to the seeds.
So, logic dictates that these ladies aren't going to gain any strength. We are not interested in fully developed seeds because, after thinking about it, we really don't want to perpetuate bad genetics so the seeds will not be saved anyway.
Long story short, we held off watering today. Our thinking is to go ahead and harvest in the next day or two after they dry out a bit.
Any thoughts?
We went ahead and pulled them all. The BA seems far less seedy than the AK.
We'll start fresh with a new grow. We're making progress on the new farm. We'll try to get as much done as we can before I have my next surgery. The next grow will have to wait until afterward.
Next grow will be to get 3 moms, 1 AK-47, 1 Blue Apollo and 1 of Killa's Purple Blend. After that, we start learning to clone.
At least we'll have plenty to hold us over until then.:jointsmile:
sorry to hear about the seeds tokers, but like you said, the lessons learned are invaluble! hope all is going well in y'alls neck of the woods!
can't wait to see what you guys do with killas purple!
hopefully my buckets will be up and running soon! the inspiration is nice by the way!
-shake
I just fell into the same boat toker. My timer messed up and missed almost an entire dark cycle and now the buds are forming seeds. Sigh... If only I was farther along.. Some of em arent even half way. Do you think I should cut em down or finish em out? There's nothing left too get pollinated.
Well, hehe, I guess seeds aren't a bad thing. But I think they will be more prone to hermie in future grows ?
Ditto on the prone to hermie greenatik. I've read the same thing. But, prone to hermie at least means female! We kinda figured there wasn't much point in letting our plants go longer since all the plant's energy switches to seed production. Ours were fairly close to finishing though.
Yup shake, seems the lessons never end.:jointsmile:
McToker,
Been one heck of a long time since I checked in. I see you had some Blue Apollo going. That was a nice strain I was growing at one time and really enjoyed it. I also had a plant hermi on me and pollinated only the bottom branches of the other plants. So your tops still may be seed free.
Another thing is pollination did not seem to effect the potantancy one bit. I did grow some seeds out from that grow and ended up with some really nice plants. So I recomend growing a few out just to see what you have. I was plesently surprized when I did.
JG
Hey JG!
I'll not say anything about the seed plants. I've already made my feelings on that issue.
JG ~ Thanks for checking in. One of the main reasons we selected the Blue Apollo was due to your grow log and your smoke report.
Shove ~ We are probably in agreement with you on the seeds. Since the papa was a hermie bagseed and the bagseed was already prone to hermie, I doubt we'll do anything with the seeds. We still have beans for the AK, the BA and Killa's Purple. With all those good genetics available we just don't see much reason to mess with the other. Our goal is to eventually have one good mom of each strain and just clone from there. The new farm design will have an area for moms/vegging, one for clones and one for flowering.
The buds were dry, after 3 days, and we just finished putting them into jars to cure. We didn't bother weighing them but guesstimate the weight at about 3 ounces per strain (BA and AK) for a total of 6 ounces. The bagseed we pulled earlier produced about an ounce. Weight is pretty light for that many plants but they weren't allowed to finish (as sinsemilla) as planned. Still, it's plenty to hold us over while we finish up the new farm.
We'll give y'all a smoke report in about 10 days.:jointsmile:
actually, I would not pull a plant because it seeds. I think the pot can be just about as good as sinsemilla. and a shit load better than anythig premature.
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McT! Sorry to hear about the wayward nanners impregnating your beauties. Does the bagseed have any qualities? If so, then I may keep some of those beans, because you never know what you'd find, especially with the BA and AK lineage in the mix. However, it may be a moot point if you harvested early - maybe the beans didn't have a chance to develop.
Nonetheless, from the pictures I last say, you have some pretty sweet bud on your hand. I hope your construction goes well on your new room too - sounds like you have some good grown room plans. I'm looking forward to pictures of your curing buds and framing.
I hope all else is well with you and yours, McT! Continued best of luck to y'all!
All of our studying was geared towards sensemilla. When the ladies seeded it threw us off. We did check the trichs as posted before.
Live and learn.
At this point, neither strain is anything to write home about. Today finishes the curing but, of course, we've been hitting it anyway. Both are a good analgesic. About 3 tokes and my arthritis pain disappears for about an hour.
The AK is delayed release in that after about 5 to 10 minutes the high sneaks up and announces itself. So far it seems to be more of a body high in that it is relaxing but not incapacitating (mental or physical) making it a good daytime smoke.
The BA seems best enjoyed in the late evening as uninterupted sleep generally follows. This is a good thing (for us). One of the main reasons we both partake is to help us get to sleep and to help us stay asleep. More of a head high than the AK but still managable enough for daytime use if you can stay awake.:D
If we were grading this grow, we'd give it a D. Not quite a failure because we did get some usable smoke out of it. But, at least we did learn a few things along the way. We plan to keep trying this until we get it right.;)
We hope to get back to work on the new room today. Thinking about starting a thread when we start building the cabinet part of it.
Ooops. Almost forgot. Jake ~ The bagseed was fairly decent smoke but one of its strongest traits seems to be a tendancy to go hermie. This makes 2 grows in a row with hermie results for the bagseed. Most of the resulting seeds are light and probably not viable.
Revised report.
Our impression of the BA has changed. With additional curing time and hitting a full bud rather than popcorn buds, lets just say, "Whoa".:jointsmile::D:jointsmile:
6 ounces is nothing to frown about...and the fact that your trichs were there is all that really matters...looking forward to your next log...:thumbsup:
Ahaha, that's great to hear! On top of all that, think about how much money you saved! Getting 6 ounces off the streets would be a lot of cash...Quote:
Originally Posted by McToker