My first grow

thanks for the props homies. JG- i am so glad you are back. Your help has been very appreciated. The curing process is new to me: So when it's done, i just throw it (the whole plant, in the pot) into a dark room for a few days, then cut it at the base, then hang it for a week, then trim it, then once trimmed and dry, i can throw it into the fridge or i leave it out and "burp" it a few times a day til no more moisture, then store it in the fridge?

or after its done could i just cut it up and dry it already trimmed? Seems like itll dry a lot faster that way, and whats the reasoning behind leaving it whole still in the dirt in the dark for a few days?

Deaner,

You have everything correct.
First step is place plant in a dark room for 3 days, no trimming. This makes the plant think it is dying and to help protect its seeds it produces all the resin it can. They will come out of the closet sticky like fly paper.

After this then trim the plant of all fan leaves and cut the tips off the small bud leaves. Save these cutting if you want and make hash or hash oil out of them.

Then cut at the stalk and hang for one week in the closet.

You can quick dry a plant at this point, I did just to give me some smoke and slow dried the rest.

ive never left it die in the dirt and dark man?
Cut it down ,trim the buds and let it hang in a dark room for a week or two, then when its properly dry (you will know because the twigs will snap not bend ) you can put it into glass mason jars to let it cure, just remember to open the jars for a few minutes every day and it will be happy days from there on in!!!
Peace Bro

Rottenfork,

It is common practice among us vetran growers and in the FAQ section to do exactly what I told Deaner to do. If there was no benefit we would not be doing it.

Thats a very interesting technique, I never knew about that.

Glad I stumbled on this thread. Nice log by the way :)

It is interesting and works!! I learned it from Shovelhandle.

42 days of veg, thats 6 weeks i think, im stoned, sorry. this is a feminized cheese (i think). i have 3 good looking clones from her, and its a matter of waiting for room in the bud room for her and a few of the others at the same age, the 2 newest in the flower room have been in there about 4 days so i should know sex soon, and one of my girls is about a week from being out of there, monday is 60 days, and the smokes real good already. :stoned:

moved the light so 6 plants fit nicely under, i think 6 plants under 600 watts should be good, plus it really fits nice under there. so until i get the 1000watter with the 600hps/400mh mix bulb and all that 800$ in upgrades, 6 buddin at a time will have to do. (I'm thinking 9 in a nice lil square under the 1000..)

Deaner,

6 plants under 600 watts is great a lot of space to streach. I fit 9 but in a box so all available light is used.

Your next round is coming along nicely:)
They will do well with 2 more weeks of veg if you are only putting 6 under the 600 watt HPS.

ok all im using for nutes at this time:
veggin: getting botanicare pro grow
early bloomers: 1/2 strength botanicare bloom, sweet
late in flowering: straight water, though a gave a 1/2 strength dose of bloom nutes to one of them.

was thinking of adding to the mix, i would like to stay organic, was thinking thrive? dont know much about it, ive been happy enough with what im using, but if i could add something to make it better, then, well id like to.

the ones that are flowering and are on regulaer water, can they be given bloom nutes if they appear to need it? im thinkin i should have waited to switch to straight water on a couple of them, long flowering time would mean longer on nutes right? could my yellowing leaves mean they are starving?? which is ok at the very end, but when the still mostly hair, they are not close right? too much wondering not enough smokin..

Deaner,

Sorry I can't help with the nutes, never used that brand. I use Fox Farms nute program.

I am just wondering do you alternate nute mix and plane water when watering your babies?

i stay with the same mix everyday, the clones get to aquafina, then
once theyre established they will get 1/4 strenth for a week, then 1/2 for a week, then full strength. my 2 closest to being done in bud are getting only water and the 2 that have a week or so at least to go are back on nutes, 1/2 strength now they were on water but i switched back cuz they seemed to need it. after switching bestgirl back, she actually starting to look better. Its gonna be o while on her. j5 is around 50% cloudy yesterday, and tallgirl is 1/4 to 1/3 cloudy, thinking of throwin both or maybe just one into the dark monday night til thursday then cutting and hanging, i want to see some amber trykes first though, does this sound good, i am so excited! the j5 sample was awesome, same was the opinion from my other tester, tasty too, the tallgirl sample wasnt as strong but had skunk/aphgan taste/feel though im no expert. j5 reminds me more of the newer citrisy flavored bud, which i happen to really like. May have to buy a quarter to get thru the rest of the wait.

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Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia 2007

Rottenfork,

It is common practice among us vetran growers and in the FAQ section to do exactly what I told Deaner to do. If there was no benefit we would not be doing it.

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interesting stuff, never heard that before ill read up on it and maybe try it out, excuse my ignorance jerry!!!
Looking good Deaner

found my first male plant yesterday, was a speed queen, oh well. And after a week plus, when i looked at that boys clones- none had any roots developing, so i looked a few more and sure enough, they aint gonna make it, glad i got seeds cuz i screwed up the cloning again. so i got some feminized white widow maybe i will start soon.

hard waiting on harvesting now, one plant, j5 appears to be a beast, buds look sick, and the weight of them buds is pulling them over, their too heavy for the branches to hold em up. its gonna be paradise in a glass bowl. the top buds the size of an egg and covered, looks like some top shelf shit. first one getting cut down is decent and should keep me away from j5 til its totally done.

added a speed queen to replace the male queen, its ok we love everyone even male queens, only god hates fags, but he got the hack. was a nice houseplant for the evening.

so in flower now:

bestgirl 62 days of flowering at least 3 weeks to go..
fatgirl 62 days 1-2 weeks to go
j5 62 days and getting out of the room next day or 2, its done
1 female bubblegum <week
1 feminized cheese 2 days
1 speed queen <day

to replace j5 will be next best in veg, they all look nice but probably a bubblegum or queen. the bigbuds are growing nicely, figure they go in when the oldest in flower go out. some in veg will be huge by the time they get into flower..

Deaner,

Sounds like you have the growing down. So lets work on cloaning.

It is a long process and needs once daily attention at a minimum, twice is best.

I think you have the initial cutting process down, the problem is my cloans can take 2 weeks or more to root, and some strains are easy or very hard to cloan. One thing I don't think your doing is you need to spray them with plane water 1 to 2 times a day.
Do not use a used spray bottle, it may have residue from its previous contents left in bottle and may hurt the leaves.
I found these tiny spray bottles in the make-up section at CVS (my big pharmacy retail chain) that work great, it puts out an almost atomized spray that is perfect for foiller watering and feeding for $1.00.

The requirements for cloaning are a warm humid enviroment ( Humidome needed )
very soft light ( 6500k, 23w, cfl, or cfls works great.
I actually made a box for cloaning and my mothers using 2- 2 bulb, 32 watt, t-12 shop lights, at HD for $10.00 each. And use 6500k bulbs $7.00 each.

Oh yeh one more thing.




WE WANT BUD PICTURES!!!!!!!

JG.

2 plants are hanging from the ceiling in a dimly lit, occasionally light goes on for 15 minutes or so, with circulating heater 70-75 degrees, and a small fan bounce-blowing up the wall below them. they suddenly look like their dying, weird. i think pics at this point would be kinda dissapointing but i took some yesterday. couldnt sit it in the dark for 3 days, got no unused room that is always dark, only space extra has mary growing in it. theyre hanging, but would they dry faster cut? im afraid of mold. and i cant see the difference from hanging for a week or just cutting and drying already trimmed into buds, is their a big difference? i have cut a couple branches and trimmed them and there drying in my cigar box that i dry all my fresh bought bags in. 3 seeds off j5 so far, im glad but does it mean i screwed up bigtime? not gonna lie, some of tall girl was dryed quick and destroyed. yuck.. gotta wait.

heres them hung
first is tall girl
next is upclose of the top of tallgirl
j5 is now in the next 2 pics

oh yeah i hope these look as sticky in the pics as they do here. i hope i didnt screw up any of the harvestin cuz this stuff looks to be pretty good. most of the plant is hangin and drying, but im a weak person. and i kinda need about a quarter dried and cured asap..

and that plant i was wondering if it was a hermie, fatgirl, well i can only hope her smokes just like cherry cola..cuz shes got alot of surprises under that skirt, she is out of the flower room, buds ripe or not, i think it is, it seed infested and will be a bitch to trim. any one think i should save the seeds, theres gonna be a hundred plus, i will toss em cuz i dont wanna grow tons of lolas later.

what do i do with the hermie bud?
better turned to hash or butter- i need easy
are all the plants that were in contact with it fucked?
how bout the ones that just went in to bud room? the one that has been next to it for 65 days??
i chopped the hermie fatgirl and hung it as individual branches, looks cool, all i had room to do with it. is it worth smokin? the bud looks good and the trykes cloudy 50%. ive found seeds in both tallgirl and j5, just when i think life is good.. and its all workin out..

is my whole flower room infected with hermie cooties? im stressed. need a smoke.. its all f-ing wet.. i need a beer.. im f-ing broke.. got weed to help with.. nope too wet.. i need instant easy hash making thats real good and real good for making the beer money appear..

Deaner,

DO NOT HURT THAT HERMI!!!!!!!

Those seeds are feminized!!!!

Go ahead and cut her down and air dry as normal save the buds till good and dry and smoke as personal saving the seeds. I know you will have hunreds but is perfect for great out door grows.

Gardens of garenteed female's:)

ok saving them seeds, the bud seems real good, should i save the other plant bestgirl? shes lookin rough, tropical sativaish, but wonder if she is to be hermied too cuz of 65 days next to my other hermie?

so the bud would be great for personal or butter, i want some butter. sounds great!

Deaner your about to be awashed in so much budage. So from this point you can do what ever the f#@k you feel like:) :) :)

very true dude, and im ok with that! j5 stuff looks amazing, very excited, after all them beans are found, and the butters made, and all that buds dry.. oh man its gonna be great. i will try and get some finished bud photos too.

Hermie plants often are kick ass powerful compared to their sisters under the same lights and conditions. Outdoor grown hermie bud is usually private stash quality around here. <G>

Cracky

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Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia 2007

Deaner your about to be awashed in so much budage. So from this point you can do what ever the f#@k you feel like:) :) :)

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hey man would it be worth it to buy a single bottle of cha ching by fox farm to make yur buds extra sticky? :rastasmoke:

Hennasy,

No I don't think you can just get by with cha ching, I feel you could cut out Beasty blooms if you are trying to cut expenses.

Except I got the combo pac for the same or very close to the price of just buying OS and CC.

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Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia 2007

Hennasy,

No I don't think you can just get by with cha ching, I feel you could cut out Beasty blooms if you are trying to cut expenses.

Except I got the combo pac for the same or very close to the price of just buying OS and CC.

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well i have other bloom ferts but that shit seemed legit. do you have any extra i could possibly buy? :rastasmoke:

Hell yah I can sell you some.

At a 1/4 tsp a gallon you get a lifetime supply of that stuff. I guess I better for $60.00.

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Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia 2007

Hell yah I can sell you some.

At a 1/4 tsp a gallon you get a lifetime supply of that stuff. I guess I better for $60.00.

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how do i PM u? u got an e-mail? :rastasmoke:

Hennassy,
Sorry,
I ment that sarcastictly. I should have stated that.

Yes FF products are expensive for nutes, I couldn't afford the entire system my first grow. And was very warry of spending that kind of money. That is when the guy at my local hydro store gave me some free samples of OS and CC. I used them and was astounded with the results, I was sold, worth every penny.

So try and get some free samples at your hydo store. he gave me enough for almost an entire grow. As I stated a little goes a long way.

GL JG.

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Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia 2007

Hennassy,
Sorry,
I ment that sarcastictly. I should have stated that.

Yes FF products are expensive for nutes, I couldn't afford the entire system my first grow. And was very warry of spending that kind of money. That is when the guy at my local hydro store gave me some free samples of OS and CC. I used them and was astounded with the results, I was sold, worth every penny.

So try and get some free samples at your hydo store. he gave me enough for almost an entire grow. As I stated a little goes a long way.

GL JG.

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ya man im down with hydro shops but fuck them ya kno what im sayen. 40 bucks for a 6" inline duct fan at my local shop. and yes i did pick up some ferts for "samples" those people are criminals ya kno :rastasmoke:

Hennassy,

Actually $40.00 for that fan is about right, That is about what I have seen on-line without shipping & handling.

Hey Hennassy we need to stop hijacking Deaners grow log. You can always ask me anything in mine.

Peace and have a hit on me:)

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Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia 2007

Hennassy,

Actually $40.00 for that fan is about right, That is about what I have seen on-line without shipping & handling.

Hey Hennassy we need to stop hijacking Deaners grow log. You can always ask me anything in mine.

Peace and have a hit on me:)

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wheres ur thread at son? and p.s ive seen 6" duct fans at home depot for 25. i kno thats not an 8" but 2 more inches=$15 more dollars. sorry i aint buyin it.

My grow log is "2nd grow from cloans and THCB seed".

I have never seen them HD and I asked they say I have to go to a HVAC supplier.

hey you hyjackers what are your demands?? he he im toast, have been for a couple days. i like this growin stuff so much even i dont know how much i like it. the hermie stuff= holy shit!! i rolled the fattest j ever to be smoked by just lil ole me and fuck.. wow.. the stuff smells like a stinky armpit but in a good way.. j5 is some of the best shit ive ever smoked, the smell is offensive, but aslo in a good way. tallgirl is pretty much average shit round here, the reviews are great, i gotta pass the complimrents to the grower, he loves it by the way :smokin: i love my stuff, semi-weigh-semi-guessed-imstoned yeild estimate=

fat girl 2oz completely almost too dry
tallgirl 2oz
j5 1 oz, i had 14 grams or so when it ended upin the "only for me jar"
bestgirl in her seedy sativa growing wild in the jungle way has yet to be weighed, just dropped down low up in the mufuckin gallows today, so a week or so of that stuff and im guessin 3+ oz of ??? either some decent sativa or some throw-in-the hashbox shit?? i cant tell the diifereence dont know if that makes sense or cuz i havent seen many true sativas

and its only gonna get better. my oldest in flower, the bubblegum is showng nice progress, i gotta couple possibel males and started 3 northern ligthts and 2 mystery, i think speed queen, seeds. my first to pop white widow still wearin her helmet, its great, but should i remove the shell somehow? i cant take pics my camera is away, in the boonies in the middle of snowstorm south of here. hope to see it on this side of the shit tommorow. im stoned ths post doesnt count i getta do over tommowror. bestgirl is hangin, i wanna say tropical sativa, big bushy buddage not alot of crystals, fat as my xwifes ass, but not the resiny stuff im used to, probably shit goin in the hash mix.. which is also looking fantasstickk. or j's did i mention the fattest j? bye thanks for reading. i babble when i'm stoned its probably why now im alone.

thanks for the help everyone who has, espescially JG for beweing there through it all.. and my parents, and all the soldiers, and espescially my mufuckin homeboiy, jesus for getting me so incredibly and long-termedly stoned. i needed it. yay!! bedtiem

man its hard to keep up with things with all this good bud around. j5 was definately some great shit, still got like 1/4 oz of it and like a 1/2 oz of hermie, its really good and not as seedy as originally thought, i still may make some into hash if i can hang on to it. still gotta harvest bestgirl, nams ironic, i dont expect much probudtion from her, fluffy gonna roll it and hope its decent last resort smoke if its that good or just crunch it into the hash mix in preogress, no more names like "best". they gonna be bg1, bg2, shit like that cuz i cursed that one strong as voodoo. my oldest in flower, bubblegum, looks great and the second into the 5 gal bucket, i think a cheese, maybe bubblegum, looks real nice, both are really bushy, 4 in there are questionable , i see clues of sex on a couple but still waiting. camera should be located tommorow, really making room on the work in progress flower room, still no idea how to make nice veg box to fit my specs. need big and stealth cabinet, with me being carpenterically useless, i could find my hammer, but the calculater, im a doodler, easy to design, but to built, im fucked. plywood looks like shit, real wood is expensive, prefab ones dont fit my needs width wise, help me im stoned and we all always gotta help the stonedest, i gotta move my veg room in like a week, i can swing the green, but lost for ideas, im short on tools, need a 8 or so 2 gallon pots/ clone shelf/ sprouts space, i got a 4x 4" flourescent, 2 2x 2" flourescent, and 2 cfls, dont wanna buy more loghts, i already got a inline fan, do i really gotta design this whole thing?

Deaner,

I think you are over engineering your boxes. Sounds like you are going to build a tank to contain light. Keep in mind the box is mostly to keep stray light out and growing light in, Not to contain a bomb.

I built all my boxes out of 2x4s and white board. I build a box frame then line it in the white board.
Here are a coulple pics.

Sorry forgot to rotate.

I built mine for around $75.00.

i need stealthy, its gonna be out in a room that i would like to be able to allow others into again, im actually thinking of lookin into prebuilt office cabinet or maybe a wardrobe closet from walmart or something? something that would look totally normal in a room with a futon, a drawing table, and a closet that goes oooommmmmm.... my temporary "the upstairs bathrooms out of order" veg room needs to move, bad. gonna browse costco later since i gotta go anyway, they usually have cool shit, like american gansta fer the dvd which im definately buying.

ive started some seeds, 2 of 3 widows sprouted, got 3 n.lights waiting to sprout, got 2 speed queens just went into dirt. waiting to hopefully find a seed from j5 or 2 and plant them too. oh and 2 or 3 big buds, my big bud thats top broke off looks great, and the tops growing in dirt too, want to flower them side by side eventually.. :stoned: