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That's a bummer. I got to where I was using several grams a day (eating it....my lungs are too shot for smoking) so going to the capsules cut me back big time. I can get to where I want all day for a third of the ganja I was using before. It's made a big difference for me.
Well when you do have a surplus....try going with a few more capsules I think you really WILL like the results. ;)
Well niltrog I am not an everyday smoker (more like 2-3 times a week) but one of my friends who took the capsules is and he was stoned as hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by niltrog
The weed I used was the BEST weed I have ever grown and maybe the best I have ever had. It was power plant, which is a commercial producer, but it turned out better than any strain I have tried. I said I used about 2.6 grams but I did not weigh the second batch so it could have been a little more I guess.
One more thing: I donâ??t really have the time to sit and watch these things cook so I left the mixture cooking in my crock-pot all night (almost 10 hours) maybe this helped.
Cool guide, I like it. One question though - how long does the entire process take to make a handful of pills?
Here we go fellas, I am gonna make it simple for all of you out there that wanna try this out. Flameon is a total stud for going thru the effort and stress of keeping the thread alive and going strong.
Give Flameon major rep for all that he has done here for the CannCom community...
Here is what a typical MMJ patient or stoner needs:
1/8 of good weed
1 tablespoon of Coconut Oil (which = 14 grams of oil)
3 hours of time
1 Cannabis Grinder (some know it as a coffee bean grinder)
1 bag of 00 size gelatin capsules
1 crock pot
1 coffee cup
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expected results = 24 Canna Caps
BTW, I made mine with homegrow Blueberry..... yum!!
Overview:
20-30 minutes prep time
2 hours cook time
20-30 minutes finishing time
Step By Step:
Step 1: put the oil in the coffee cup, then set the coffee cup in the crockpot, put the lid on the crockpot and set it on High
Step 2: turn on the crockpot and get it warming up as you grind up the herb
Step 3: using the cannbis/coffee grinder, grind up the herb to a fine powder, then carefully scrape it into the warm Coco Oil in the coffee cup and stir the mixture, pushing all of the herb into the oil
Step 4: let the oil and herb cook together for an hour, then return to your oil and stir it for a minute.... then let it continue to cook
Step 5: return after another hour (1+1 = 2 hours total cook time), stir it up and remove the oil from the crockpot... use a pair of oven mitts so you don't burn your hands
Step 6: let it cool for a while but be sure to keep your eyes on the oil as Coco oil will solidify at room temp and you need it to be slightly less than solid to pour it into the caps
Step 7: pour the cooled oil into the gel caps, making sure that they are equal in measurement so they will be equal in dosage... if there is any 'gunk' in the bottom of the cup scrape it equally into the caps
Step 8: put them in the fridge or freezer for a while to set up.. I am not quite there yet so I can't tell you how long
NOTE: You can get really Fucked Up on edibles if you do not know what you are doing... read this thread from the beginning and pay attention. I would take 1 cap and wait 2 hours before taking another just to be sure...
MVP :jointsmile:
pic 1: blueberry I used
pic 2: another pic of blueberry used
pic 3: capsules from the health food store
pic 4: the crockpot in action
pic 5: the cannabis oil in the coffee cup is about ready :smokin:
Nice MVP! Mine seems to end up more of a yellowish color....I'm wondering if that's just the type of weed I'm using.....Master Kush.
great thread guys!
i have one question though. i made some of these today and had some of the bud residue on the bottom. i scraped it into two capsules that lack oil.
will these two capsules still be effective or has all of the thc transferred to the coconut oil?
Thanks! :smokin:
I'd like to post your recipe on my site Flameon, you would retain the credit and the copyright.
Please post if it's not okay. I can also link to here if you want me to.
Hi Guys (and a slightly late 'Happy New Year!')
Great work on the timescale guide MVP (love the pictures too), bang on!
I've not had chance to try blueberry in a mix, how did they go?
Regarding the time question, I keep all my kit together in the same box (the coconut oil in the fridge), so it only takes me about five minutes to set up.
Then, once the oil is cooking you can just leave it to do its thing. So, although it'll take you about three hours from start to finish, most of that time you can just take it easy, go watch a film or something.
Filling the caps takes a little time (and practice), and is a bit easier if you have a holder, but even so we're only talking around ten minutes.
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Originally Posted by pikkapeppa
I always take the time to include the residue because the plant material will have soaked up the THC rich oil and is therefore, still very potent (worth trying a batch 'with and without' for a side-by-side comparison - you'll notice the difference).
OZO - You're a star, I may need to get some 'powerplant' myself this year. Glad they went well for you (hope nobody put a Wii remote through your TV whilst under the influence - it's easily done lol)
Snorbel - Many thanks for the interest, please feel free to help yourself to whatever bits you think might be useful. I'll keep an eye out for it.
Catch you later :thumbsup:
Tried these a few weeks ago in my crock pot on low with bad results. Well..no results.
Tried again yesterday with some good but a little old weed on high and used a remote probe thermometer to constantly monitor the temp and make sure it didn't go above 285. this worked perfectly and i took them this morning and have been stoned all day.
Now i'm confident to try it with some good fresh strong bud and really see the potential.
thanks guys. :thumbsup: :smokin:
flame, i gotta hand it to you, awesome post... ive read the whole thread 3 or 4 times now, and ive tried the recipe twice... and i cant seem to get it. ive taken up to 3 pills in a sitting of my first two runs with nothing more than a little buzz.
im using 1.5 grams of 420/oz weed that i ground twice... in 7 grams (1 and a half teaspoons) of coconut oil (12g sat fat per tbsp). making 12 capsules. first time i let simmer for 2 hours on low, 2nd time for 2 and a half hrs, just to make sure (thinking that maybe i didnt let it simmer for long enough)
however, then i wondered what the temps were in my crockpot. i have Amazon.com: Hamilton Beach 33141 4-Quart Oval Slow Cooker: Home & Garden this hamilton beach cooker, and ive read on the internet that it runs a bit hot. the user guide says it will cook food at 200F no matter whether you put it on high or low, it just takes longer depending on the setting. after an hour on low, the inside of the crockpot was about 110C... not too hot by your instructions but still well above the recommended 80/90.
The room doesnt smell strongly of weed when i do my simmering, but it does smell as if i fired up the vape once or twice... and when i take the weed out a strong woosh of weed smell comes out of the crockpot once the lid's off. unfortunately, the "keep warm" setting doesnt seem to get above 50C on its own... so the question is, am i better off grabbing a new crockpot (like Amazon.com: Rival 5025WG 2-1/2-Quart Crockpot: Home & Garden) or is there some other avenue i should be trying?
thanks for all the help
-tc
I have to think that in your situation the herb is not being simmered/cooked/whatever you like to call it at a high enough temperature. In my post about 1/2 dozen above this I outlined a quick easy summary, recommending one cooks the oil on High.Quote:
Originally Posted by tjcioffe
Why you might ask? Because crock pots are notoriously difficult to control the cooking temperature :wtf: and even when cooked on High are designed to stay below 200 F or so.
The batch I made were sampled by my GF (I can't as I have a hair test to pass soon) and she said they were as good and strong as the brownies I make... which means a really nice, long lasting buzz.
This is a great recipe that works, so experiment and it will end up working for you. Look at the post above just yours and read what they experienced - similar but eventually successful.
BTW, I am just stepping in for Flame to get you a quick answer and encouragement. Now go start that new experiment... :D
MVP :jointsmile:
haha ok cool MVP... i was hesitant to use my kief stash at first but i am currently warming up the crock as we speak. Im gonna use a gram of kief to see if I cant just get this to work. I love this recipe because it only uses a gram and a half at a time, while masterwu's gd recipe uses an eighth (and ive tried that 3 times with not so great success either, lol)
I will let you know how it goes (crossing my fingers)...
PS - do you think the kief would be better done on Low or High for this run?
thanks
-tc
Well candidly, I take educated risks. And here is how I see it: Since the first couple of runs were on Low and didn't get the job done, I would cook it on High. But that is just me. Besides, I like the word High quite a bit better than the word Low.
MVP :jointsmile:
Lol, I agree with MVP....the issue could be your crockpot. Lately I've been doing mine the "old fashioned" way and gotten better results. I use a candy thermometer to moniter temp and have found that if I keep the temp between 200 - 300F for about 20 mins (and I'll try letting it go longer as well but you have to stand there and watch it constantly) and have gotten much better results than with the crockpot. I honestly think it's my cheapy crockpot as MVP suggested.
Hi Drinkmilk - Glad to hear you cracked it, nice job and keep up the good work :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by drinkmilk15
tjcioffe - I'm in agreement with MVP and Weedhound, although your question has given me something to think about.
I tend to switch between two crock pots depending on what I'm making and have been fortunate not to come across any difference between the two in terms of results. I don't however, have a separate thermometer to accurately test the temperatures of each (something I think I'll now have to get hold of).
One of the reasons for originally advising the use of the 'low heat' setting was to avoid confusing people who may have read about cooking weed with a 'high heat' in other threads and be tempted to 'overcook' their weed by other methods and potentially reduce their available THC content.
The fact is, as far as using 'crock pots' goes there should only be a marginal difference between 'low' and 'high' settings (roughly about 10 to 20 degrees centigrade), so if in doubt - I would go with 'high' setting.
N.B. Typically, the heating element heats the contents to a steady temperature in the 175â??200°F (80â??95°C) range - 'low' is generally 80 to 90, and 'high' is about 90 to 100°C.
A couple of technical points that might be worth considering are:
1.) Could the container your using for the oil be resistant (ish) to heat and slowing down the time it takes for the oil to reach optimum temperature i.e around 90/100 degrees?
2.) Also, normally, in a crock pot liquid (H2O) is present which helps to evenly distribute the heat, it may be that some crock pots have 'hot' or 'cold' spots depending on where the heating element is placed which may also slow down the oil reaching the correct temperature.
3.) The lack of a liquid with a 100 degrees C boiling point being present (i.e. water) also means that it is possible that some crock pots may run quite 'hot' (I'd be curious to know what the highest temperatures are that people have recorded).
p.s. As mentioned earlier in the thread, an oven is Ok too if your not confident about your Crock pot's performance.
Hope this (rather long and dull) explanation helps some
Cheers
flame :jointsmile:
holy mother of god. tried the kief on high for 2 hours the other night. the first one i took had me feeling relaxed for a few hours. i took the second the next day and it knocked me on my ass for like 4 hours. i was just sitting there in a daze for awhile, and all of a sudden i looked up and it was 3 hours later.
so, success. thanks for all the help guys =)
LOL! I love it. :D
Glad to help ya out tjcioffe - another testimonial from a satisfied customer! :stoned:
Those damn crockpots can be so tempermental, I'm glad you hung in there and found out what these things are all about!
yeah im gonna try a run with bud maybe tonight, havent had a chance to do another one since the kief capsules... i think im gonna try playing with the temperature, the high for 2 hours seemed awfully hot and made the room pretty stinky by the time it was done... maybe ill warm up on high for 30-45 mins, then put in the bud, do 30 mins on high, switch it down to low 30 mins, then stir and put back to high for 30 and then low for the final 30. sound ok to you guys?
and one more thing... i have a decent amount of duff that has been piling up ever since i got my volcano... any insight on whether or not the recipe could be changed to use duff instead of bud? (i realize youd have to use more duff then bud, but any idea how much more?)
thanks again guys... this board has done wonders for my pot/science hobby =P
tjcioffe - I think your idea of High/Low/High/Low sounds like a good experiment. Regarding the duff..... dunno never used it myself. Heard from others it works in brownies. Maybe Flame will know when he checks in... I'd suggest you give him some rep and ask him to post an answer in this thread.
I've tried this recipe three times and just can't seem to get it to work. I'm starting to get discouraged as I'm wasting weed but I'm trying to stay optimistic.
The first batch I cooked on low in the crockpot for 2 hrs using just under 2g of regs for the 12 pills. Took 2 no effect. The next night I took 3 still nothing. I saw somewhere in the thread where it was suggested to try re-cooking them for an extra hour w/a little bit more oil and bud. Still nothing.
The second batch I only made 6 pills and cooked it for 2.5 hrs instead of 2. Again took 3, and again nothing.
The last batch I made using some pretty good mids. I went out and bought a thermometer and upped the crockpot to high. The temp stayed around 185/190F. I kept it going for a little over 2 hrs. Again, took 2 and felt nothing. I tried recooking this batch as well, throwing in a little bit of kief. This time I went out for a few hours and left it going. I took 2. After 2 hrs I felt nothing so popped the last 2. Still nothing!
Do you think it could be the quality of the weed? Any other suggestions for getting this to work?
BTW, I'm a newb...well a lurker who finally posted. Hi :)
I'm gonna try this recipe this weekend. I have the 00 gelatin capsules and have a question. Right now the capsules separate easily. What do I need to do to them after i have the oil in them to get them to stay shut?
After you fill them (meaning after the oil is cool enough to not melt the capsules) you put the top on and press them together firmly. That is all I did and it worked perfectly. You might even practice on an empty one so you see how it feels. Good luck and enjoy.
Hi guys! Don't you just hate it when you write a long detailed answer and click submit only for canna.com to go down and you lose it all? :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by tjcioffe
Ok, I'll try again..
tjcioffe, great work and a good idea!
I'm with you regarding swapping the temperatures from high to low and back, especially as it sounds like your crock pot may be running too high. It always worries me if people report a strong smell after cooking.
simplesmoke - First post? Welcome to the forums!
Sorry to hear you've had problems, maybe the recent 'troubleshooting' posts will help. Without knowing more it can be difficult to guess, but the obvious answer would be to check your crock pot or the strength of your weed (I try to avoid using regs for this very reason). In your case you mention a temperature of 185/190F which although fine, is only slightly above the THC melting point. It may be that your crock pot is slow to reach maximum temperature, and therefore when it drops (i.e. when you take the lid off to check the temp or stir the oil), its taking a long time to recover and therefore not reaching its full potential. If you think that sounds possible, perhaps you might have more success in following the 'oven method'?
Anyhow, good luck and cheers
flame :thumbsup:
Thanks for your response Flameon. I get what your saying about the temp dropping when I stir/check except that the last time when I put the stuff back in to cook again I left the house and kept it going for a good 4-5hrs or so without opening it. If the temp dropping is the problem shouldn't those have worked?
I'm thinking I'll try the oven except that my regular oven is ancient (from the 60s-70s) and I doubt it gets to any temp that it is supposed to. Would a toaster oven be sufficient?
If I just wanted to make 2-3 pills to test it how much bud/oil would you recommend?
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Flameon
Ah, in that case, it may be the other extreme that might be causing you a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by simplesmok
Here's a similar question and answer I gave earlier that might help:
Hi Alotsa, and good questionQuote:
Originally Posted by Alotsa
Assuming your confident about the THC content of your bud, 0.5 of a gram is fine (it's a good way to get the technique down without risking too much weed). As for cooking, the trick is getting the crock pot or cooker hot enough to melt the resin, but not so hot that it damages or degrades the potency of the weed.
Again, if your happy your 'hitting' the right temperature range don't 'overcook it' two or three hours is fine, but I have some reservations about going too much further beyond that, as some anecdotal evidence suggests it may weaken potency.
A coffee grinder is fine, also, someone in another thread mentioned using a pestle and mortar which I hadn't thought of before, and sounds like a good suggestion.
The toasting oven might not be a bad idea (but do watch out for a strong smell after the first hour, you may need to regulate it up or down as needed), the above advice was given in respect of using 'good bud', if your a bit dubious about the potency of what your using (regs, I think you said) you might want to increase it to 0.7 or 0.8.
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
Thanks again for your reply Flameon.
I only let it cook for the extended time period once, and those were pills that didn't work so I squeezed them out and recooked (as I saw you suggest to someone previously) them with a little more oil/bud.
I'll try a single batch in the toaster oven with some mids tomorrow and see what happens.
Thanks again!
p.s. I forgot to ask earlier, but your weed is cured and dry I take it?
If not, give it 15 minutes in the oven first before you cut/powder/grind it up. Same temperature.
I just threw in a small batch using .7g of mids and just under a tsp of coconut oil. It looked to be just about a 50/50 mix.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flameon
I took your advice and put the bud in the oven first. I also threw in a tiny nug to smoke to see if I noticed any difference. It was really dried by this point so it wasn't the best for smoking but I can say that I can feel a notable difference. (After 3 hits the helicopter passing by sounds like its in my bedroom.) It was also so much easier to grind (I don't have a coffee grinder). I used my cheapy plastic grinder and then ran a knife through it a couple of times. It was the finest I've ever gotten it, looked like a fine powder with a few tiny pieces thrown in.
I used the toaster oven this time, set at 250F. After melting the oil (before throwing the bud) I checked the temp of the oil and it was @ about 198F. I'm going to check it at 30 mins and then let it be from there.
I'm hoping this batch works. I have a good feeling :thumbsup: (maybe because I'm high.)
Also, I was planning to make 3 caps with this and take them all later tonight. Do you think that would be good or should I only take two?
an update on the high/low experiment -- it doesnt seem to have worked as well as simply cooking on high for 2 hours did. well, to be fair, i went back to bud this time... so, one final experiment: bud on high for two hours. this should remove the possibility that kief was what made the capsules work last time (i really really hope it does lol).
after i get this working, ill start messing around with using duff and let you all know if i get any tangible results.
oh, and edit for clarification-- high/low batch: 1 capsule had me lightheaded for like an hour... 2 had me feeling somewhat high but a friend felt nothing... 3 this morning had me feeling good for about 3 or 4 hours... so not a complete failure, but not the resounding success of my last batch.
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Originally Posted by simplesmok
It ended up making 4 caps filled to the brim. 2 weighed at 1.2g each, and the other 2 at 1.1g each. Anyone have suggestion on how many I should take? I plan to take them at the rink after my hockey practice (Ahh I love the stealthiness). I'm going to stay and watch the game after and should be home about 1hr 20 minutes after taking them. I hope to spend the rest of the night on the couch. :)
I checked the temp after 45 minutes and it was at 219. I checked it again when I took it out after the 2 hrs and the temp was 235F. I'm hoping heat was the issue as I never recorded anything over 195F in the crockpot.
I would suggest that you take 1, wait for 90 minutes to see how it affects you, then take another at the 2 hour mark if you are not feeling it enough.
My GF took 1 of the capsules I made from 1/8 mids and she felt good for several hours. The 1/8 mids made 24 capsules.
Doing the math:
3.5 gr = 24 capsules
3.5 gr /24 caps = .146 gr/cap
In your situation:
.7 gr = 4 caps
.7 gr / 4 caps = .175 gr/cap
I would not take more than 2 at any time, unless you have a lot of experience with edibles. Be sure to come back and post your story of what happened. Good luck and have fun!
I ended up taking two as soon as my hockey practice was done (6pm). I ate a granola bar with it. I didn't really eat much today and after a hockey workout I'm starving. I'm trying my hardest not to mow down.
It's now 20 after 7 and I've got a pretty sweet high going. My boyfriend and his friend each took 1. I walked in the door and they both looked up and me and said "I'm high!"
My bf's friend is an everyday smoker and about 280lbs. He said one or two more and he would be blazed beyond belief.
I'm super happy that it finally worked. Thanks for your help flame and mvp!
flameon!
This post is awesome :> Great, intuitive and informative work, buddy!
Thanks all the way from Africa :D
So it turned out to be a great night. By 12 I couldn't keep my eyes open any longer and hit the sack. I had a steady high going all night. I ate dinner @ about 9 (stuffed shells..yum) and shortly after my high got better. It wasnt as much as a couch lock as I expected but it was pleasant none the less. Two gave me a long pleasant high. I think next time that I don't have anything going on the next morning I will take 3, I like to be truly blazed.
I'll be cooking up another batch today!
i was just wondering some stuff
i dont have a balance so is there any other way to calculate the weight of oil i had??
i know this question is kind of stupid but still..
I'm interested giving a try with a quato and even an ounce but i would like to know if i need to add more cooking time when cooking with bigger quantity...
So far, i've brought the capsule, i have the crock pot, i got stach but i cannot find the coconut oil stuff at the grocery. So could you tell me how to make ghee...just to be sure...
ty a lot in advance!:)
This is fantastic. I have a mini crock pot for dips and it's roughly the size of a coffe cup and i'm starting a batch now. i'll keeep y'all posted on my trials and......
Guys, I just wanted to say a big, big thank you to all the people who've taken the time to give this method a try and then post up their experiences, especially to those guys who've stuck with it despite running into problems on their first attempts.
It's mostly down to your hard work (and persistence) that we've managed to create a really comprehensive guide, including some excellent 'troubleshooting' advice and information.
I don't think I expected this thread to attract much attention, especially as it involves a fair bit of preparation and ingredients etc. But, thanks to some really 'pioneering' work from a number of you guys, it's really taken off and you've shown just how possible it is to get really great results from small quantities of weed.
Great job and cheers! :thumbsup:
p.s.
simplesmok, nice work!
Getting enough 'product' from less than three quarters of a gram (0.7 g), to get three people high, just shows how well you've cracked the technique (from 'mids' too!).
tjcioffe, keep up the good work and let me know how you get on, I'm especially interested to hear if you get 'duff' working for you.
MVP - You are my ambassador of quan man! Thanks.
SmAsH, a level teaspoon equals about 5ml if that helps. Also, don't worry about cooking larger amounts for longer, assuming your hitting the right temperature, 2 or 3 hours should be fine. Although, I would suggest you start off with a smaller amount at first until your sure your crock pot/oven is doing 'it's thing' correctly.
b0n3ZA & PlantHeadJ, thanks for the kind words and welcome to the party, let us know how you get on and feel free to post up any questions.
Thanks again guys and cheers
Flame :jointsmile:
To make Ghee just take a stick or two of regular butter (preferably unsalted), and gently heat in a pan.
Once melted the butter will start to froth (from the milk, water and other impurities), just skim off the froth with a spoon until your left with a clear golden oil.
When you take the pan off the heat the oil will set just like regular butter, but will keep for a couple of years assuming you store it in the fridge.
Just use when needed.
p.p.s. Sorry if this is a bit random, but b0n3ZA, about your avatar, is that 'Canadian Mountie' the one that's outside 'Starbucks' in Niagara falls by any chance?