ADAM AND EVE...NOT ADAM AND STEVE, ITS JUST WRONG
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ADAM AND EVE...NOT ADAM AND STEVE, ITS JUST WRONG
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Originally Posted by Funken Monken
how could you not know why christians are against gay marriage.deep down everyone knows why.
Perhaps I've become numb to it all then and jstu cannot see it. Perhaps I'm aware that these are modern times and in some locations, taking a dated standpoint, characterised by relegious beliefs is not in fitting with the popular zeitgeist.
I just dont understnad that those who swear that its 1 book that teaches them the way, never account for the masses of contradictions in there.
You'll have to define for me what everyone knows 'deep down' im afraid.
And apologies for using the word zeitgeist, i fucking hate it.
gay marriage lost on all 14 ballots last year,including oregon(so it isnt a location or north south thing).
deep down most people know it isnt a normal way of life,and it never will be.
while i dont agree with those people,i understand why they feel that way.
hey i just want to know who the fuck you think yopu are to tell the gays that what they do is wrong, now im not gay but i support gay marrage because every single person on this earth has there own mind and can make there own choices, then the people like you come along and try to tell them that they are wrong and that being gay is a sin, that another thing if god didnt want gay people then god whould not make gay people, but i would like to know what mkes you so important that you can tell people how to live there live please reply backQuote:
Originally Posted by Das
All you Christians out there that have a problem with gay marriage.......................................... ...FORGIVE THEM!!!!!!
i hear ya,i am a christian who is for gay marriage,whatever,
it isnt just christians that are against it,i think that it is alot more than people think.
My special thanx to Lulu, whom, i've noticed, not merely, posts by her opinion, but by the basis of fact. She, pretty much, did what other people, here in the states haven't done, and that's explain what this whole situation is really about. Again, thanx Lulu, for not making me feel like a second-class citizen in my own country. I guess it takes somebody to get out of the picture to see the whole thing. Remember, DIVIDED WE FALL!!!
OH and btw, it was Adam and Lilith before it was Adam and Eve.
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Originally Posted by Almost Every Homophobe
So Adam was fucking his own rib!
:eek:
How perverted is that?
:p
Now, I'll go back to gnawing on my mitochondrial DNA.
:rolleyes:
divided we fall?what the hell is that?
I am not against gay marraige, if homosexual individuals want to marry then it isn't hurting anyone else, just let them.
Jesus had a boyfriend he's in the gospel of Mark. Apparently theres also a lot more on it thats been edited out. Elijah was partial to lying on top of young boys too while they were in the prone position and in the beginning it wasn't Adam and Eve it was Adam and Jahweh and you can bet your goolies that the mans bits worked just fine and that God thought they were good.
I guesss these christians are destined to never really understand what Jesus meant by us in them and them in us but nah the church must have this gay stuff and Gods attitude to it right mustn't they thats why they can all walk on water and raise the dead just like every good christian should be able to do. :mad:
Bleedin plonkas the lot of them. :p
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Once people see that gay marriage worked out in Massachusettes, and that civilization didnt fall apart there, then I'm sure other states will begin legalizing gay marriage soon. I want to be able to marry another guy one day, and seeing as how I'm a tax-paying citizen just like any person, I should be able to, with ALL the benefits straight couples receive.
wow some of you really think being gay is a disease?? jeez theres gays everywhere: humans, rats, cats, everything. you dont choose to be gay. wtf are u all talkin about? if u were born gay u wouldnt say such things. respect everyone. im not gay and i dont like very much gays but if they wanna marry who fuckin cares???? wtf is with you guys sometimes your so extrmist with your goddamn christiannism. who cares abo ut adam and eve. this is only a metaphore anyway. who cares about religions? its a human right to do what u want to do.
I love my spouse and I can not express how happy I am that we were able to be married. It wasn't always that case. Many had opposed my type of marraige saying that it was unnatural and against god's plan. We would have been ridiculed, and in places such as Texass, we probably woud have been tied up and dragged behind some rednecks pick-up. No, I'm not gay. I'm white and my wife is Asian. Even as late as 1967 16 states still had laws against mixing races.
I'm not gay but I don't see any reason that they shouldn't be allowed to get married. The way I see it their position is not that different from the way mine would have been less than 40 years ago.
Conservatives like to point to the sanctity of the institution of marraige and of traditional family values. If family values are the issue there are a lot of other people who shouldn't be allowed to get married. Convicted felons can get married, even before they get out of prison, KKK members can get married, and the list goes on. So, according to taditional family values its ok to have a couple of white supremacists get married, and raise more little hateful white supremecists but it's not ok for a couple of homosexuals who are generally law abiding and accepting of others to get married. To tell you the truth, I'd much rather have a gay couple move in across the street from me than a career criminal or neo-nazi family.
As far as some people's, such as Toreg, fear that homosexuals are luring our children away, it is well known that nearly all pedophiles are heterosexuals. Yep, that's right, after they get through with the kids they go home to their wives and then go to preach to their flock on Sunday.
I don't have any gay friends. I have known a few gays, though, and by and large they were pretty decent people. I've never met a gay asshole (ha, ha, ha..I didn't mean it that way). I've met a lot of straight assholes (again, ha, ha, ha..I didn't mean it that way), however. The way I see it , it doesn't hurt me if gays get married so why the hell not.
Dont mean to pry, but why dont you like gay people?Quote:
Originally Posted by mellow mood
The only legal part of a marriage is a civil union, so why is it that when religion steps in and calls it marriage that it suddenly affords you more rights than simply getting a civil union? That's unconstitutional. Violation of the 14th amendment and separation of church and state, anyone?
With all this in mind, the only thing going on with this Gay Marriage debate is a moral debate. Morals, however, all flow from the primal one, "It is wrong to hurt someone unfairly." Because of this, love in itself cannot be immoral, so the only debate REALLY going on is the one about people being disgusted by gays, which has nothing to do with anything...
Heres a good puff of logic for you all when it comes to arguements and which ammendment the gay marriage debate would fall under as far as protection goes for them.
Most people think that gay marriage will fall under the 9th ammendment, the unenumerated rights clause, or the first ammendment and separation of church and state. However, I figured that it would fall under the 14th ammendment, which guarentees equal protection for the sexes and equal treatment under the law.
The arguement often goes, "They have as much freedom as we do to marry someone of the opposite sex, so it doesnt violate the equal protection. They have equal rights and should stop asking for special rights".
This arguement has a flaw though. Whoever came up with that is looking at society as a whole, but when you get down to it, the constitution limits powers of the federal government and the bill of rights applies to people on an individual level. When you look at someone on such a level, the non-equal treatment under the law is instantly visable.
Pick any one man. That man has the right to marry a woman, but not a man. Pick any one woman, that woman has the right to marry a man, but not a woman. It is nowhere more obvious than on the individual level that sex discrimination IS taking place, and there is a preferential treatment per person, which is NOT allowed under the 14th ammendment.
gay people do have the right to marry,they just have to marry a woman.i know that isnt what they dream of ,but saying they dont have the right to marry is false.
Mojavpa i dont really like gays because of their "feminine" attitude. i mean they can act really strange and i hate it. i prefer a guy with a masculine attitude. some gays are ok, but theres some i just cant stand with...
we have our token flaming fag around the office,very girly,calls everyone breeder,funny guy.
i think i prefer they are flamers than the ones who act like a regular guy,but then go home and get on their knees.(not that there is anything wrong with that.) :eek:
lol whatever haha
just an opinion.
i personally dont believe in the whole Same Sex thing because im a good little christian=) but what u do behind ur doors is ur bussiness and as long as its not hurting anyone else its just between you 2 and god. I have abunch of Gay/bi friends i have no problem with them, i dont treat them different they kno how i feel about it. As long as my Gay Guy friends dont hit on me or try anything im happy being a good friend and listen to their problems.I think Torog has alot of good Points(which he does alot) and so does Lulu, just because u prefer Same Sex doesent mean im not gona light up a Joint and party with the person, They are Human Beings also That God Made. Being a Christian i will always be there to help another fellow human being, may they be gay/short/black/green/old/young/jewish/islamic. I feel its My christian Duty to help others, and spread the lords good word.
Much love to all
Iudicium
christ on a bike....some of you folks are nasty little bigots...
I'm not gay so it's none of my business! :) If I were to ever become gay it would then be my business.. I wouldn't want the government or any religion to decide what I can or can not do.. Peace and Love for everyone :):):)
since when is it any bodys buisness what consenting adults do in there own home or how they express thier fellings for one another
i dont get the point that if your a christian u dislike homesexual.....
if u believe god created us why would he create gays? thats stupid...
to put it quite bluntly its WRONG in my opinion to look down on one for his or her sexual perferece......st8 guys and gals just think of what it be like if u were gay and your state didnt allow same sex marriage .....i doubt you would agree with your state....i have a gay uncle....funnyest mother fucker ive ever known and smokes more pot than anyone ive known...lol but hes a cool ass guy gay or not....maybe i feel its wrong to look down on the gays b.c i have family that is...who knows ...but thats how i truthfully feel....me myself..i love pussy to much to be gay...lol a few words from PPP
PEACE
People seem to love limiting God to being like them its so weird. Humans have been known to do a few things that he thinks stupid too I'll bet.:pQuote:
Originally Posted by mellow mood
I have no problem with homosexuals.
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Originally Posted by BuD MaN
Well Said. Thank you for pointing out the igornance of the society we live in. :thumbsup:
Breaking news: gays have already married. Yes, it's true. It's already happening every day all over the world including places like Canada, the UK, and South Africa. It's also already happening right here in the US. With states like Massachusetts that issue one-day marriage officiator licenses who knows how many have even occurred outside of the courthouse.
The fight is over I'm afraid and you lost. Gay marriage is here and it's not going anywhere. So, finish whining and remember to return your "opinions" to whatever dark, moist orifice they crawled out of.
Edit: LOL. This thread is old. Oh well.
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Originally Posted by Torog
Where do you get your information?
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So, finish whining and remember to return your "opinions" to whatever dark, moist orifice they crawled out of.
Edit: LOL. This thread is old. Oh well.[/QUOTE]
Well said. :dance:
It's inevitable and just. Unless the 700 Club watching closet theocratic fundamentalist types rise to become more than the late night talk show punch-line they are now, you can count on a continued evolution in the US. It will be natural and not by design.
Gays should have rights to and they dont, i believe that is un american.
"They just passed a law in San Francisco that smoking is not allowed in the street. It offends people. But it's okay if you want to butt-slam your buddy. You can smoke the baloney pony but not a Winston."-Andrew Dice Clay
Lol, not that people have anal sex in the street or anything. Who the fuck is Andrew Dice Clay anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud