Well that didn't help me feel too much better lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nocturnal Stoner
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Well that didn't help me feel too much better lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nocturnal Stoner
So would leaving the door open slightly and a window open be adequate ventilation?Or would you lose to much light?Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt the Funk
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Originally Posted by exhashsmoker
Now to me it sounds like it won't be enough ventilation. you should get some type of fan(s). I'm not sure how much light you would lose. If you can't get the proper vents then you might as well try anyways, and if it works, great, if it don't now you got some exp.Quote:
Originally Posted by orangeman
What's funny is you act like I'm the first person to turn to open doors for ventilation. I know it works because I've heard of people doing it before to solve some heat issues. Like I said theres not even that much wattage going into this and I know damn well I'm not gonna be losing a lot of light just because a door is open. I'm just curious how many plants have you grown?Quote:
Originally Posted by exhashsmoker
Anyways I have been thinking about getting a carbon filter and it doesn't matter what "ventilation" I need because if I do get it air is only going to be put out of the room. Other than an open door there is no way to supply fresh air, don't mention any other ways I have said a million times and I'm saying it again I have no way to do it. Now...I was wondering how far does the air have to travel through the ducting after it has went through the carbon filter before it becomes "odorless" ? Also the only way I can vent the air is through this little space in my wall. If I stuff the ducting back there (if that's even possible) do you guys think it'll work? I can't put the ducting too far back in there so that's why I'm wondering how long does the air have to travel before it's fresh..Here are pictures. I hope I can stuff it back there :-/
Btw how long do you guys think a 4" filter will work. I'm getting the 4" PROfilter 45 w/4" Vortex Blower
Discount Hydroponics - Odor Control
Some one please reply with experience of one of these things.
Once you draw the air thru the carbon filter its "clean". How long of duct you blow it through after the filter means nothing as far as odor. That space you are going to blow the clean air into goes where ? Remember, fans make noise. And if you are going to need to keep door open you are going to get odors anyways. If only a few plants I am going to say the filter will last around 6 or so grows. I have grown a C99 cross that was to be low-no odor, orange smell or something, and thats bullshit. You can smell it, I am convinced it doesnt matter what strain it is.
I have honestly been thinking about your grow and trying to come up with a idea for ventilation, and HEAR me thru on this. Is there ANYWAY you could cut this door you are talking about needing to keep open and installing a 12"x12" darkroom louver ? Then you could keep a window open, and when your fan kicks on you would be sucking air thru a light proof vent, so no worry about light leaks.............After the air comes in, all gets drawn thru the filter and exhausted into the "space" you are showing ???????? At least that way we are eliminating the reakage from gettin in the rest of the house cause door is open. I know its not ideal, but I am trying to brainstorm to help you out here..........
My point is you are buying all this equipment, so lets use it the way its intended to be used so you can get the best results.
Is the above idea an option or do I go back to the drawing board ?
b0nger
If I bought the filter I wouldn't leave the door open. And how loud are the fans usually when they come on? And btw do you think the ducting could be stuffed in that little space in the pic I attached? Btw in case no one can visualize it this is a ROOM under the STAIRS that leads to the basement. It's a freggin closet. There is no available windows and anything leading out the room would be automatic suspicion. I can't do anything other than what I have suggested and I need to know if it will work.
Oh and I forgot to add. That space that the duct leads to is basically going to the next room which is washer and dryer room. And no I can't really do much because it's a limited space and I can't do anything to the walls so it'll have to do going as far as it can. And I'm sorry. One thing that should be clear to understand is that it's not my choice, I do want to use everything I have the best way I can but I can't. I have to work with what I have.
P.S. I still need to know if the ducting will fit. If you seen the pictures you seen how small the space is. I was thinking maybe I could just force and stuff the ducting in that little space since it's aluminum. I thought it'd be flexible like that or w/e.
OK.....for me to say how loud is loud is like how deep is deep. I am not being a smart ass, and to look up how many decibles it is would also be about useless. All I am saying is you can hear Vortex fans. I use a 10 inch and 8 inch, and they make noise, but its not a concern for me.
Now, back to you. Is there anyway possible you could get some 1x1's and build a frame that you cover in plywood? If so I would go that route and line with foam. Mount the fan inside the box. You can buy foam at any store that sells fabric and sewing stuff. Then I would mount 4 eye bolts, one on each corner of the box. Get 4 of those black really heavy duty bungee cords. Not those real pretty fabric covered ones. You can get the bungees I am talking about at any auto parts store. I'd save 8 small pieces of that foam and wrap each S hook on the bungee cords and tape foam firmly in place. That way on both ends you will not have metal to metal contact (vibration) noise. Then you find the joices in the ceiling and mount 4 J hooks into those. Again, wrap those J hooks with foam and tape also. The idea is you want zero metal to metal contact. This way you can suspend the fan in the soundproof box (hopefully) with no metal to metal contact and keep it as quiet as possible. You deffinately want a speed control so you dont need to run it wide open. Of course you need to cut openings in both ends of your box for intake and exhaust.
I dont know how handy you are, or what kind of tools you have access to, but this may be like you building a Space Shuttle in your back yard, or it may be a 2 hour project.
As for the exhaust side remember this. The shorter you keep it, and the less kinks, twists, bends you have the better. You want as little resistance as you can get.
COme to think of it, I'd cover the outside and the inside of the frame work. But, before I did I would put a piece of foam in that airspace, then I would also put another piece of the foam on the inside as well.
If only you lived in my neck woods and I knew you I could put together what I am talking about for you and it would be perfect. I'd tinker with it for 2 days but what I would not come up with something to make that fan soundproof.
Hmmmm..... I just thought of something. You say on the other side of the wall from the closet is a washer and dryer???? Is there ANY way you could tap into the vent from the dryer ?? That would help you considerably if so.
You honestly need to tap into your creative side on this project. I know it may seem daunting, but its not that hard if you are half handy at all. I'd like to see some other suggestions and maybe between everyones ideas we could combine and come up with a final solution.
I am going to sleep on it and I will ponder some more and get back with you tomorrow.
b0nger
No, no *sigh* I have a headache. I could almost cry right now, that stuff is not gonna work...I can't do anything with the vent of the washer and dryer because people will notice that. And it wont work because I can't even reach back there in the wall. I can only stuff all the ducting I can back there in the wall. I think I need to make a video of my grow room because I don't think you understand just how closed up that space is. All I can do is fit just a bit of ducting back there and the washer room is too far away for the ducting to reach to the other side.