That's what my uncle hunts for, pheasants.
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That's what my uncle hunts for, pheasants.
If you eat meat I personally think you should be capable of killing an animal with your own hands.
I know a vegetarian that would love to eat Bacon or a nice Pork Butt,,,but she grew up on a farm and cant get the image of her father killing her pet Duck out of her head... She eats hotdogs without the dog she want meat so bad...
Yeah I have to agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by NextLineIsMine
Can you kill a clam?
Can you kill a fish?
Can you kill a chicken?
Can you kill a steer?
Can you kill a cute little calf?
Think about it.... where in the line do you say, no, I can't kill that creature. Therefore I won't eat it.
Personally I eat meat and I can kill it myself. I enjoy fishing- I am generally a catch-and-release type person but I feel more secure knowing that I have the skill to catch my own meat. And if I hook a fish 'dirty' it's coming home for dinner. I bet you have NO idea how bad white sucker tastes. But, I hooked one through the gills and that was that.
I have a major issue with livestock farming for ecological reasons as well as because of the treatment of the cattle, the endless antibiotic injections just to keep them alive in such a crowded and filthy environment, and the simple fact that the amount of land that it takes to grow the feed to make a pound of beef flesh would be better used to grow simple food crops for humans... even protein crops like soybeans!
Therefore I also choose to consume very little beef.
I don't believe that hunting solely for the thrill of it, or the sport of it, makes sense morally; I do however understand the SATISFACTION of the kill- that you have brought down a wily critter that you are now going to feast on for weeks.
Beyond the whole hunting right or wrong argument... I think we as a culture are getting spoiled into the feeling that eating meat at every meal is normal; indeed, our right as the top of the food chain. But the meat we eat is less and less healthy with modern farming methods and when you look at cultures for whom meat is a luxury item to be used more as an ingredient rather than the main course, and other protein sources like cheese, soy, dairy, nuts, and other legumes are the norm- look at the health problems or lack thereof in those cultures. I'm thinking of Indian food especially... IMO the world's most spectacular cuisine for variety and complexity... and look how much of it is vegetarian, and how healthy the Indians are!
I guess this is sort of off the hunting subject but it relates to how I feel about hunting. I believe that you should be close to your food source. It's hard to tell that to someone who was raised in an urban area- Orangeman, I have respect for you and I'm not going to flame you for the hunting thing because honestly it's hard to form an unbiased opinion about something that you aren't around all the time.
To me this argument is more about where we get our food than how we get it.
Okay, now flame away :D
Hunting is a natural human activity, has been for tens of thousands of years. Nothing wrong with it. Only the tools we use have changed.
i hunt small game with my ruger .22 (10/22 rifle)
the only thing ive ever killed with a gun would be Turkeys(every thanksgiving), rabbits (yes ive eaten rabbit in stew), and one time i killed a chicken that was running wild in our suburban neighborhood messing with cats and what not, so i shot him once while he was sitting on my fence post, and we cooked him too! hardest parts was sneaking into my neighbors yard and retreiving the bird, since he fell from the fence.
everything ive ever shot me and my family has eaten, except for when i was younger and killed a raccoon. but for a good reason, 1. when i killed him, he was fleeing from my large garbage can witch he and his freinds had just knocked over, garbage everywhere. 2. he killed on of my neighbors rabbits newborn babies, and 3. he fights with my cat, and other stray cats as well.
but one thing that i do think is stupid, is my neighbors 12 year old son shooting birds and squirrlles with his bb gun and his .22 BAR. because he doesnt eat them, they just sit and rot, that is wrong.
yea... i think hunting is fine... is basicaly all i have to say... as long as its for food... and i had my mom read over the replys i posted... and she said that i had made a very good point... so i feel proud of my self...
the coon is understandable... the neabhors kid killing random birds and squirlles and leaving them to rot... is fucked up... i mean, you can eat a fucking squirrle... i dont know what kind of birds he is shooting... so i dont know if you can eat them...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooler Then Jesus
i hunt pop cans and watermellons lol... and the occaisonal frisbees
i used to seriously fuck up some pop cans back in the day when all i was packin was a daisy bb gun. my dad wouldnt let me shoot birds and such, i would shoot pidgeons out of the barn though, they would shit all over the hay.
'if it flies it dies, if its brown its down!'