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produce car bumper & winmdows stickers and sell them over the net to raise funds for events and allready running legalization campaines??? Like i said keep ideas coming. The more ideas we have the more ideas will be thought of. It all will have to lead some were. Be it the legalization even the decriminalization or other. We cant give up. Giving up is for the weak. We have to be heard one day. Lets all just hope that day comes sooner than later.
demonangel :rasta:
Hi everybody
Haven't been here for a while - I am part of the UK movement The Legalise Cannabis Alliance http://www.lca-uk.org and webmaster of the Cannabis Campaigners Guide at http://www.ccguide.org.uk
The ideas and discussion here excellent - although of course a lot have been tried in the UK - but what more can we do.
We've had sticker campaigns (No Victim No Crime written around the leaf), marches (although not with everyone in suits), protests and lobbies at Parliament, letters to MP's, petitions, Smokey Bear's picnics, Turn-yourself-in Days (which i don't personally like), festivals, hemp fairs, letters to the press.
Most of that stuff we still do - now there is a petition to the Prime Minister - but only about 400 sigs in the time the Bring Back Hunting petition has about ten times more!
There's been a World-Wide Marijuana march every year for over 5 years with marches in 70 or so cities world-wide more or less on the same day.
My conclusion is that we must continue to change the monds and attitudes of the public before we have any hope to change the politicans and the law.
There's a lot of fear, a lot of ignorance and a lot of apathy out there, and soem greed - we have to show people that whether or not they are auser or know one, whether or not cannabis has helped or hindered, it would all be better off if it was legal, outlets and quality controlled, profits taxed etc, and home cultivation allowed.
For me the most cost-effective and easiest is writing letters to the press, national and local - and to the politicians - start a chat on your local paper letters page
but that doesn't mean we cannot do the other stuff too.
Alun
Hi all. I am pleased to say. After emailing the LCA yesterday i recieved a reply this morning. They said they would come take a look at this thread and would try and help if they can. I was delighted that they replied so quick. Just goes to show that were not alone. So now more than ever keep the ideas coming. Even more so now as we have there support as well. So keep on thinking.
demonangel :rasta:
After what Alun said im not so confident, he said everything has bin tried and its failed... Im still with u guys tho
high everyone
well, i got the message from demonangel from alun, it has been distributed to lca supporters.:rasta:
i worked on the exec team of the lca for 3 years so i am happy to tell you whats been happening, and how things might change in the future.:dance:
okay, first of all the LCA formed in 1999 as a POLITICAL PARTY, the LCA stood in local and general elections, and even made a party political broadcast in wales in 2005!
Over the last 7 years the LCA, as Alunb3 mentioned has been involved with a fair few rallys and events, conferences and protests, infact it would be fair to say, the LCA has been at every cannabis event in the UK, although we would never take the credit of those who organise these events, many of them individuals who just want to try and make a change. Credit must go to the organiers of the Hull Cannabis March, The London organisers, including members of the Green party and The Cannabis Trust, Weedworld Magazine for the hemp fairs past and future, CCNews (RIP, sadly missed!)plus many more individuals who have decided they wanted to make a change in the UK, i cant list them all, they might not even want me too!
So whilst the LCA was political, hundreds of letters were sent to newspapers and members of parliment, people stood in elections and we were invited to do some TV and Radio work, all great fun and all paid for out of the pockets of those involved. Protests in London and outside police stations, coffeeshops in the UK opened up, there is still a couple open i understand.... by 2004, a year after i got involved, LCA had been on Top Gear, Sky News, Newsnight, featured on the front page of the nationals, and i do not doubt for a moment that the pressure we put on the goverment started a change, which would result in downgrading cannabis.
Thats a change!!!
Of course in the last two years, since the change, the prohibitionists have been woking hard, using any and every opportunity to give cannabis a bad name, it seems as was always the case that there is some sort of media restrictions on cannabis reporting, the government who changed the law are now begining to rethink, their opinion will never change on legalising cannabis, because they have told us so.
So changes have been made to the LCA, the threat of us taking votes in election got the law changed, now we have de-registered as a political party, and hope that as a pressure group we can attract supporters from all political parties, meaning eventually the labour, conservatives and lib dems will be fighting for the cannabis legalisation cap, they know it gains votes!
We are restructuring the LCA, we want to have a serious team of dedicated workers in different fields, medical, growing, licenicing, education, recreational, coffeeshops, promotion, events etc etc.
We hope that with each team working on a specific goal we can take a plan to all of the major political parties, telling them, how to legalise cannabis, when to do it, how much it will cost, how much reveiw could be achieved, how to educate, etc etc, this is all pipeline stuff, and its hoped over the next three months some real changes and ideas will blossom.
the lca does have a website, and a forum, where members can share ideas, and find info used in past events, fliers to download, news, and press releases.
we encourage people to contact the LCA with news stories and to send us your local papers contact details, we have spokepeople and can visit meetings and events.
i am glad there are other people who want to change the law, it takes all of us to make an effort to change it, or sit on our hands and complain.
i would advise anyone who hasnt seen it to try and get a copy of Green Britain, by paul dooner, when i watched it i couldnt believe what i had been missing out on!
free the weed
elsie haze
and ps, i happen to love the london cannabis march, and i understand there is some sort of idea for having more marches next year including birmingham, i'll send more info if you want it, or when i have it!
^^^ Thats brillient and its what we are all trying to do, so if this has bin goin since 1999 how come nothing has changed AND i have never herd about it, not in paper or on tv or anything, we arnt reachin enough people. Ive informed like 60 people of cannabis and gettin legalized and most of them are 'secretly' supporting it but wont come out as they are afraid of getting caught, they cant be asked and they dont think itll happen
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Originally Posted by Pezzo
Like i mentioned, there seems to be a ban of media resports, flipping heck the first time i went on a london march and smoked next to a police man i bought every paper and it wasnt mentioned in any, despite the fact over 3000 people marched through the middle of london smoking, last year the event was held at trafalger square, news? nope, they dont want to report on how peaceful the day was....
changes, cannabis was a class b drug in 1999, it isn't now!
coffeeshops open in the uk, they were not before!
marches through towns and cities.....
a cannabis leaf on voting cards!!!
stalls at glastonbury
stalls at the london hemp show, 2004, 2005.
granny pat has had the most coverage of recent, she has been on richard and judy, trisha and on most newspapers and news reports, thc4ms go to court NEXT monday, there is always cannabis thinbgs going on, but i think the press are banned from talking about good stuff.
go to the lca legalise cannabis alliance website and read the news section, visit the forums etc.
i have to say our biggest down fall is fear of arrest for supporting cannabis legalisation, the best idea i have come up with, was to comply a questionaire broaching a few major subjects and seeing if the press would all print it on the same day, chuck cannabis in, hope loads of readers reply, and hey presto you should get an annonymous but real perspective on how many people want weed legalised.
sadly the fact people dont want to shout about it is the other down fall, i will, none of my mates will, its a problem we face talking about a law breaking subject.
this is part and parcel of how we change things, by working out how to get support from everyone and not just the hardcore!!
Thanx 4 reasuring me on that elsie, what bout advertising or dont u have the money?
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Originally Posted by Pezzo
its a tough old world, we use what money we do have to keep the website going, print leaflets and occasional pay out for a stall or small conference, but people would much rather use the money for weed than donate to a worthy cause!!
we have a donated page each issue of weedworld the uks only weed magazine, and i understand soft secrets also has an advert for us.
if you put legalise cannabis in google we come up pretty close to the top.
but heres something for you to enjoy.
put "kinokast" in the google search engine, click on 2000-2005, scroll down a few pictures and on the left you will see a link for the cannabis london march, if you click on the photo the video will download it takes a couple of moments, but it shows what has been happening with very little communication execpt the web and emails,
once upon a time in the 70's a group of well known celebs put a page advert in the independent newspaper (could be a different one, but i think the indy) requesting that cannabis was legalsied, they all signed their names at the bottom of the request, a full page! It would be good if that happened again.
i think that was done through release, a charity to do with law breaking.
there is loads of info on the net, the cannabis campaigners guide is another good info packed site,
thing is with weed, if you dont go looking its hard to discover, and its not oftern its dropped off for free on the doormat, same with news, seek and he will find!!
i promise whilst we chat there are loadsa people in the UK wishing they knew how to find out about legalising weed, if i didnt have a computer it would be hard, but once you have access to the world wide web, everythings possible.
maybe the way to encourage freinds is to hold a meeting in the local area....with some of your news about whats really going on in the UK.
The LCA even has a sponsored football team, based in Lemington Spa, The Reckheads!
I also know loads of people who smoke in secret. They say they support the cause but in my view unless you really support it openly youâ??re not supporting it at all. They are scared of getting into trouble and think if they sign petitions they will be arrested. I can understand there fear especially if there family is totally anti cannabis. But canâ??t see how police can arrest you for signing a peace of paper. Totally against freedom of speech. Like I have said before ive been smoking weed since I was 14 yrs old and am now 32 and like most long term smokers get very impatient and very astounded when we are classed in the same way as people who actually do harm to other people like murderes,rapists ect. I currently sign every legalization petition concerning cannabis that is brought to my attention. I know people who have been signing these types of petitions for many years and not one of them has ended them up arrested. Someone needs to come up with the ultimate plan. After watching a video on Google video on the history of cannabis and seeing how governments originally gained the publics vote to make it illegal through adverts and so on saying utterly stupid things like: If you smoke it you will kill people, if you smoke it u will go insane. There is many of these each one funnier than the last. Should we take the same approach advertise the real proof surrounding weed of how it does none of things the government tries to tell the public it does. Also If would it be a good idea to right or email politicians in Holland ( Amsterdam ) find info on what cannabis does for there economy, What affect on crime rate it has being. At the moment here in the UK we have a continuing over crowding in our prisons. What benefits legalization would have in this area as well as all other aspects of law & crime increases & decreases? All the info is out there itâ??s just the matter of finding it. I think I read somewhere that the Mayor of Amsterdam has actually communicated with leaders of other countries his wish it that they took a more reasonable approach to cannabis like they do in Holland Amsterdam. We need support from people like this who already know the benefits it gives. Any way I got to go my fingers are clicking and hurting now. Before I go ide like to thank everyone from the LCA who has replied and posted here since my email & hope to see more input from them. When it comes down to it were all fighting for the same thing so we need to keep things going no matter how much it seems were not doing any good. Bye for now.
demonangel :rasta: