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what I said has nothing to do with science. and you really didn't disagree with me. you went of on a tangent
as well science is a method of observation, I do not know anything about these ideologies you speak about. But I disagree that these two things underlie science.
Maybe these two things underlie some sub area of science
Thank you for bringing the debate back to the basics
Ah, but I only disagreed on the concept that God can be completely understood through current rationale and scientific thinking. Maybe we can never understand completely. I grew up on science myself, and in ways that science disproves God to some, it amazed me progressively in a way that I saw glimpses to the inner workings of pure genius in the cogs that run life, nature, and the universe.
I can understand why it's difficult to understand how the two ideologies I mentioned underlie science, but they do. It's really my bad, because they have two specfic terms that define them and for the life of me I can't remember them at the moment.
At the very least I can concede that their aim specifically deals with the scope of the universe and existance itself. Whether it is random, or whether there is a life foce or "method to the madness" that sustains it.
good topic nontheless. We may not agree, but I enjoy discussions of this nature; good food for thought.
feel free to present an argument I would like that, no one has yet. and it blows.
when you speak of pure genius about the world and stuff. are you talking about intelligent design (hopes so)
so here is the argument as I see it (As an analogy)
a man is walking down the beach and sees a watch in the sand. HE looks at it sees how complex it is and can only assume that it was made by an intelligent being, ie human.
Now when someone looks at life in any form which is hundreds of times more complex than a watch and not draw the conclusion that it was also made by an intelligent being?
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Well we’ve all had some time to think. And I hope I can get this thread up and going again.
I’ve been thinking and here is a more fundamental question
How could a mortal person convince you of something impossible?
(without any miracles because apparently that’s how this all got started)
I assume no one here has witnessed water into wine.
So what could someone write to convince you of this.
Well a lot of people have said that the bible has come true on many counts.
So if I write a bunch of true statements.
-I had toast today
-It is raining in Vancouver
-It will be raining in Vancouver in 5 min
-There is an intangible being that created everything
so my first three statements were correct so ya’ll assume the last one is too?
I really don’t get it.
Honestly, I don't know why I believe in God...I just do.
It could be because I was force fed the concept of God my entire childhood? I guess it stuck, lol!
As for the water to wine...I don't think I believe that.
Much Love,
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thats the thing about beliefs. they defy the laws of physics
you can knock out all there supporting ideas. but the belief wont fall
(in general)
in general...
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