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		I think the twins were less than 6 weeks old from seed. Did not LST. Used CFL's close to the plants so they grew short and wide. I only trimmed about 3inches off the top of the twins cause they are older and taller than the others.
My room is full of bugs, but I haven't noticed any problems. I've read that 2 tablespoons of salt and one Gallon of water acts as a pesticide against spider mites. Use a sprayer.
	 
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		See what I mean about the bugs? 
Keeping the interior leaves out of the way, is allowing more light to enter the lower branches and bud sites :D
	 
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		Hey, Pass That, Nice plants. Very nice:thumbsup: Scary spidey! :eek:
TGF
	 
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		PassThat, your plants are looking mighty fine there.  Nice little house guest you have on the wall too.  I'm hoping I took care of the bug problems in my veg box and in a couple days im moving it up to a diff. location.  I have a question for you though just how far is your light from your plants?  I have used the palm of the hand method and moved my light to about 14 inches from the tallest plant and seen amazing improvements but the way the hand test feels I think I can move it even closer what do you think about it?  Lemme know good luck and again the babies are looking great!!!
	 
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		Mike, Glad to hear that things are getting better for you :thumbsup: 
I think alot depends on the temps of the top leaves, cause you don't want them to suffer from heat. In my situation, the plants are pretty short. I put the thermometer at soil level and try to get 80 degrees there. This way the soil is in the 70's and the leaves are probably around 85. You have to keep your hand there for a little time with that method. You want to make sure that your hand feels comfortable after a few minutes, not that it can tolerate it. Keep in mind that the leaf will feel that way for 12 hours. You don't want it under stress. The easiest way is to get those flexible thermostats that some of the growers on here use. You can just flex it to the spot and get a temp reading. It's not the light that harms the leaves, it's the heat.
	 
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		Good stuff Good stuff I appreciate it, I think for the time being I am gonna keep my light just where it is.  I think I need to pay  little less attention to my plants at this point as I am starting to obsess over them. I just cant help it I love these things!!!  aaa screw it im going to sleep in my flower room goodnight!! lol
	 
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		BUMP!!!
I haven't noticed any males yet :thumbsup:
	 
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		HPS gives them that gold color :stoned: 
I picked up some nice dimes today :stoned:
Can't wait to try White Widow :stoned:
	 
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		I'm throwing the leaves back like a scarf so the light can penetrate the branches. :)