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Calls em like he see's em ...................... ................ War is the only thing zionist are good for...oh man im a anti-semite im going to hell or am I:rolleyes: both arabs & the jews they have known nothing but war for over 5000yrs........why couldnt our leaders listens to the founding fathers advice on keeping out of other peoples affairs, & it goes waaaaaaaay back not just that false flag op of 911
If the U.S. had so much clout with Hezbullah that we could force them to attack Israel, then Bush wouldn't have sounded like he did on that unscheduled microphone event. What clout does the U.S. have to get Hezbullah to do anything? Yoohoo, it's IRAN that funds them, not the U.S. When they attack, or don't attack, it's because their master with the purse strings says so.
Now, after Iran gave the go-ahead on the attacks, did Israel use the attacks against them to launch a major offensive? Indeed they did. That's certainly not something the U.S. wanted them to do though, especially with elections looming on the horizon. I doubt we want to draw Iran into any sort of direct conflict either, as Iran is capable of severely punishing us with attacks relevant to the oil market. You think the Republicans want to hit election time with gas prices double what they are now, our economy shuddering with debt strain, our armed services already stretched to the breaking point, and a Middle East in chaos? Maybe...if they really want to lose badly in the elections.
What sovereign nation capable of retaliating against an enemy wouldn't do so if the enemy started killing their people and lobbing missiles at their buildings? That's the (simplistic) way Israel sees it, and I can't blame them. Lebanon is basically controlled by extremist terrorists. If the people there hope for a more peaceful existence, then they need to wake up and figure out that playing host to terrorists makes you vulnerable to the same punishment meted out to those terrorists.
If you look at the history of Israel, mostly they just react to attacks against them, or, occasionally, preemptively attack when they perceive a looming threat. This is same ol' same ol' - someone attacks Israel, Israel lashes back. Other than Iran being an instigator of the conflict for its own purposes, this is the same stuff that's been going on for three thousand years, just with better weapons.
For those of you who think Israel is in the wrong here, what would YOU do if you were the leader of Israel and extremists in Lebanon started ranging into Israel and killing/kidnapping your people and lobbing missiles into your country? Would you ask the government of Lebanon to make them stop? Assume that's already been done, but the attacks don't stop. What would YOUR next step be? Israel chose to retaliate. But if that was the wrong response, what would the correct response be?
The real terrorist--------FoxNews 911 connection--"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information." -- US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9-11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAoe2...rch=fox%20news
Israel spy ring http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring.html
Investigators within the DEA, INS and FBI have all told Fox News that to pursue or even suggest Israeli spying ... is considered career suicide
"While I agree with you, if I say anything about US geopolitical interests with Israel, I might as well clean off my desk."
Sharon to Peres: "We Control America"
Carl Cameron? You kidding me? Does anyone believe anything he says? He never backs up anything with proof. Just innuendos and allegations.
Here's a quote from a less-biased source than that whacko:
'Cameron reported these earlier investigations into Amdocs during a May 5th, 2000 broadcast on Fox, describing an ??alleged penetration of U.S. government phone systems.? Only towards the end of his overheated report did Cameron admit that ??there are no targeted suspects under investigation because there is no information to suggest a phone breach.? But then, apparently realizing he had just shot down his own report, the reporter immediately contradicted himself, claiming, ??There is clearly a breach here, some sort of threat.?'
What kind of shitty-ass reporting is that? So he hypes a story, defames some Israelis, then admits there are no suspects because there is no evidence, zero, that any of this happened. That ain't news. That's spin. Stuck his foot in his mouth there at the end, by admitting it was all a bunch of cow manure backed up by...nothing.
Hell, he couldn't even get the facts right. Amdocs is not a mysterious private company. It's traded publicly on the NYSE as DOX. A real reporter would have done due diligence. Unfortunately, Fox doesn't employ real reporters, they employ spin doctors.
The New York Times reported:
'The federal authorities conducted a highly classified espionage investigation into whether Israeli intelligence agents used a software company in Missouri to intercept telephone conversations from the White House, State Department and other agencies, government officials said today.
The counterintelligence inquiry did not find evidence that government telephone systems were penetrated, the officials said. The investigation focused on the Amdocs Corporation, a publicly traded corporation founded by Israelis, but failed to unearth evidence that anyone at the company or connected to it had tried to listen to government communications illegally, the officials said.
??There just weren??t any facts to support a penetration,? said a government official who closely followed the inquiry.
The existence of the inquiry emerged today after Insight Magazine, which is published by The Washington Times, reported that the investigation had uncovered a security breach in the White House telephone system. Other news organizations quickly spread the story over their Web sites, but the accusation of a major espionage problem collapsed almost immediately. ...'
You're either as gullible as it's possible to be, eg420ne (you have to be gullible to take Cameron seriously), or you're exposing your own anti-Semitic leanings by propogating unsubstantiated smear campaigns. Either way, you're a patsy. The only question is whether you're an unknowing or a voluntary one.
[QUOTE=Psycho4Bud]I was debating an issue in here the other day and someone compared the "neo-cons" to Al-Quada....Unreal! Can't even get rid of the hate in a marijuana site full of stoners, [QUOTE]
You can say my name there P4B, unlike others I'll own my comments, but I'll say yout takeing it out of context.
What I was pointing out is that the propaganda is slung on both sides to instigate WAR not PEACE.
And I like how you seemingly didnt read the rest of the post because then you take it to hate, I offer the following quotes of my own on the same post to prove that point.
"War is never the solution man, it only makes things worse. The loser will resent, and always come back to test the waters for further rebelion."
"Only real solution is peace, and niether of these parties seem to be interested in makeing comprimises to make a peace."
Read that post again and you will see I am talking about propaganda, and im not calling neo-cons al-quada, im compareing neo-cons to hezballa, in the context of propaganda slinging and im pointing out that the very things neo-cons say about them, are the exact things they can say about Neo-cons.
Sorry if this wasnt clear to you in the debate, however my words are almost never disrespectful.
And on the topic of the rest of your reply to BG, I think the recent upswing in pics/hate is a product of the vote to lack the rules, altho it seems you might be reconsidering that notion.
Peace.:thumbsup:
Nation and policies... not people. Of course, the Politically Correct phrase should read: I have a bitch with Israel's policies in the middle east ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
THAT'S a relief!!! I was hopin' you didn't mean the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by graymatter
Have a VERY good one!:thumbsup:
Thats the fucking dog that act like a bully of town. he bites for no reason..gotta kill the dogQuote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
u idiot do you know arabic to even read quran, dont talk shit when u know nothing embesileQuote:
Originally Posted by LordSmaug
Hey, sorry if I offended ya by using that as an example. I got the wrong group but I consider Hamas, Hezballa, Al-Quada all of the same face, just different religious leaders. Neo-con.....republican.......as for myself, I don't put these people in the same clasification but I DO understand where you were coming from with the "propaganda" theme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marlboroman
You seem to be one of the more considerate posters in this area and that it's appreciated by me and I'm sure others. Peace is always the ultimate to strive for but unfortunately we're human first and our history more/less dictates that the peace solution usually follows alot of death. I'll bet these "world leaders" loved playing "King of the Mountain" as kids.
By the way........I still say that in order to have a political debate you HAVE to leave the door a lil' more open to flaming, etc........hell, why should we have to live by a higher standard than paid politicians? Just my :twocents:
You take care, keep up the good posts and the good fight and as always....
Have a good one!:thumbsup: