Fems and Hermies (changed title from 'feminize your own seeds')

run a search on "male hermaphrodite" under the search function. Stinky explained why forcing males to produce female flowers could be done but she listed several reason why it wasn't a good thing in a great post some time back. Hope you find the post....definitely worth reading and good solid Stink info. :thumbsup:

sweet ill hunt it down. In the mean time, and off topic, why is my rep disabled and how do I change it, anyone know?

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Originally Posted by Algag

The only thing im curious about is that the original poster said he force hermed his male plants. Does force herming male plants produce feminized seeds?

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Although this thread is old...perhaps we should think about this for a second...

When forcing a female plant to produce pollen, she has no male chromosomes to donate to the equation, just her female ones. The male chromosomes come from the male pollen. We may have forced her into survival mode, and forced her to produce nanners, but they are not male nanners, they're female nanners devoid of male chromosomes. This results in embryos with only female chromosomes. In other words...The resultant seeds are 100% female.

Now think of what forcing a male plant will do...given that he has no female chromosomes. Those are not female calyx's and pistols, they are male calyx's and pistols, devoid of female chromosomes. If there are no female chromosomes in the embryo's...what will the result be, and why on earth would you want 100% male seeds?

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

Although this thread is old...perhaps we should think about this for a second...

When forcing a female plant to produce pollen, she has no male chromosomes to donate to the equation, just her female ones. The male chromosomes come from the male pollen. We may have forced her into survival mode, and forced her to produce nanners, but they are not male nanners, they're female nanners devoid of male chromosomes. This results in embryos with only female chromosomes. In other words...The resultant seeds are 100% female.

Now think of what forcing a male plant will do...given that he has no female chromosomes. Those are not female calyx's and pistols, they are male calyx's and pistols, devoid of female chromosomes. If there are no female chromosomes in the embryo's...what will the result be, and why on earth would you want 100% male seeds?

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I don't think I could have said that any better Rusty! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Male Genetics = XY, so
using the model previously established if we breed X1Y1 with X1Y1 the possibilities for the offspring are: X1X1, X1Y1, Y1X1, and Y1Y1

So, that would be 25% female, 50% male and 25% freak that probably wouldn't survive. All of the females would be identical. N'est ce pas?

probably doing the wrong thing here but cant find anywhere to post and since this is the closest thing to my problem thought id post it here.
apologies if i doing the wrong thing but i know no better at the moment.
i grown a couple of clone to maturity but wnem i started to trim em i notcied they had little ball thinks on the underside of the buds on further inspection they were throughout the whole of the very large buds.they are practically spherical in shape and quite hollow and softthey also have a couple of hairs poking out of the top of em. i cut one open and what looks like a grain of saind is inside very very tiny brown thing .
what is this are they femmed polen sacks or male pollen sacks or the very begining of new buds, has the plant hermied and is it now no good.
any help would be bvery much appreciated and stop me from pulling hair out.
i thank you in anticipation that someone will be able to help.
please make a sad man happy tell me it aint bad news.

You should upload a picture. Having hairs coming out makes it sound female to me. Perhaps they got pollinated and the brown thing is the undeveloped seed? Regardless, it will still be perfectly smokable. :)

Those are mature/swollen calyx's, and they are unseeded.
With seeded calyx's, the pistols* (hairs) wither-up, as there is room for only one seed and the pistols are unnecessary from that point forward, for that particular calyx. (usually)

I've also been lucky with getting females. I guess it has to do with the short light period at first, and then putting them under flourescents when the sunlight is not out from seed. I'm not really too sure how i'm lucky because other people get all males with 30 seeds. I guess it is my omen. Now I have to work on getting some real females. lol. So do not hate on the image reaper.

This sounds to me as if Perfect growing conditions produce almost always females. Males were grown under less then perfect conditions.
If thats the case then There would be no natural females in harsher climates. But since there are I must say that its the seed that is male or female.