Any hiphop fans?

im 100% positive that if you hear lil wayne's old stuff before anyone even heard of him, before he even appeared in big albums, you would think it sounds better than his stuff now.

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Originally Posted by infidel818

im 100% positive that if you hear lil wayne's old stuff before anyone even heard of him, before he even appeared in big albums, you would think it sounds better than his stuff now.

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You mean like his old mixtapes? Cause I have a few of those.

I have Lil Waynes older stuff from stuff like

Da Nolia Soldier Pt. 1
DJ Smallz - Welcome To New Orleans
31 Degreez
DJ Smallz - Squad Up

And yes it is pretty fresh.
That's not the point.

yes, the point is...the more mainstream they get...the worse their music gets...
but as a recording engineer student...i gotta respect em.

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Originally Posted by infidel818

yes, the point is...the more mainstream they get...the worse their music gets...
but as a recording engineer student...i gotta respect em.

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WTF.. there are many UNDERGROUND acts that get worse as they grow older. While it may have something to do with mainstream, it also has to do with growing, and experimenting with new things.

For instance, Tech N9ne is nowhere where he was years ago, I honestly think the man is repeating himself and doing the same things.

I think he's afraid to change his technique because of people like you, who want to hear the same thing over and over again.

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Originally Posted by STDzRus

I have Lil Waynes older stuff from stuff like

Da Nolia Soldier Pt. 1
DJ Smallz - Welcome To New Orleans
31 Degreez
DJ Smallz - Squad Up

And yes it is pretty fresh.
That's not the point.

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I still listen to that

shhhhhhhhhhhhh the fireman commin

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Originally Posted by infidel818

A kid wouldnt understand the concept.
When MC's go mainstream...they sell out to the mainstream audience. They make music and consider what the people want to hear....not what they think sounds good. They all wanna sound like someone else...and thats whoevers the most popular. The bad part is...going that road is what leads to the most money....thats why groups like GangStarr are so dope because they are able to keep their shit underground, and still attract a huge audience, and they have maintained their style...they dont sell out, and they never will.

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well put, gangstarr is sick, and like talib and mos def and the greats before them tribe called quest and de la soul they are the most talented rappers and they stay mostly underground but r good enough to get publicity and a lot of fans and keep there style of hip-hop and make good money. and wat u said how rappers change there style to be more mainstream is sooo tru. look at outkast for example there still ok now but back in the day andrea 3000 didnt dress like a fag and him and big boi's flow was crazy. there shit was good back in the day.

great song..... Gangstarr - take two and pass

dnt forget the roots crew ;)

Im a hip hop head no doubt (hence my name on this site bein Pete Rock). I agree with STZRules theres a lot of good underground shit and theres a lot of garbage underground shit. I stopped thinking in terms of underground and mainstream a long time ago. If the musics hot, its hot period, regardless of who makes it. Theres a lot of good rap and underground shit out there (Tribe, Beanie Seigal, Roots, Nas, Too Short, Dre, etc). And some of that southern shit is good too, especially when cruisin with a nice blunt. 3 6 Mafia and Project Pat. Expand your horizons my people.