GOD

FLESH:If God exists, either he can do nothing to stop the most egregious calamities or he does not care to. God, therefore, is either impotent or evil. Pious readers will now execute the following pirouette: God cannot be judged by merely human standards of morality. But, of course, human standards of morality are precisely what the faithful use to establish Godâ??s goodness in the first place. And any God who could concern himself with something as trivial as gay marriage, or the name by which he is addressed in prayer, is not as inscrutable as all that. If he exists, the God of Abraham is not merely unworthy of the immensity of creation; he is unworthy even of man.

SISTAR:Absolutely god could stop calamities. But they happen for a reason, and death isn't as big of a deal as this article makes it out to be. Yeah, I miss people that die, but I will see them again, and I am happy for them to have moved on from this earth. And god does care, he hated to see jesus suffer. But again, it was all for a greater purpose, down the road.

As far as gods name, there article I posted spelt my belief out nicely.

And gay marriage? All god wants people to do is love eachother, respect eachother, and learn from one another. He doesn't care what you do to get off, because we all get off. So how does the way it is achieved matter?

LOL I'll leave the gay thing alone for now. One controversy at a time.

FLESH:Only the atheist recognizes the boundless narcissism and self-deceit of the saved

SISTAR: by your definition, an athiest is not the only one who recognizes this. The "saved" priest who decides who is saved, and molests little choir boys because he wants to get off, but won't marry because THAT would be a sin. And appearently this same priest's ALL KNOWING, COMMANDING GOD can't see through closed doors. So as long as you don't tell, he won't know ;)

I Think you pick the thing's I believe that seem "new agish" and totally look away from my message. We really do believe a lot the same.....

who? me? lol


I think the catholic church has done us all a great disservice. They should have hammered those priests. Of course, I don't agree with the need for a priest on earth as Jesus fills that role. I don't think its biblical to demand spiritual leaders to be single. It certainly isn't biblical to pray to Mary. I think we covered the tradition issue already.

sorry I got ona rant. ;-)

FLESH:According to several recent polls, 22% of Americans are certain that Jesus will return to Earth sometime in the next 50 years. Another 22% believe that he will probably do so. This is likely the same 44% who go to church once a week or more, who believe that God literally promised the land of Israel to the Jews and who want to stop teaching our children about the biological fact of evolution.

SISTAR:This is sort of a contradiction. Because I know hard core catholics do not believe in reincarnation. Yes, I know jesus is special though. But who is to say that the whole 44% is this type of religious fanatic? I believe Jesus could come back, I believe I have many times over. But I don't believe god promised anybody land. And I think evolution/adaption are science and should be taught in schools. Just not as a theory involving GOD, unless you are going to teach all of them. GOD should not be something that is taught to you. It is something you come to, when/if your ready.

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Originally Posted by mont974x4

who? me? lol

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No, sorry. I haven't addressed anything you said. I think I understand your belief system. And I am sure I know what your view on homosexuality is. I think our only real difference is that you look to the bible as a manual, and I don't. And that is fine :)

It is nice to have someone follow up with bible info though, seriously :)Specially since this essay is based on the strict interpretation of it.

Actually, the Bible says Isreal was promised land. When they came out of Egypt. Sources outside the Bible (historical texts) and even archeology is proving the Bible to be very accurate in historical matters. No other group of people have been subject to attempted annihalation (sp?) more often than the Jewish people.


I don't belive in evolution. lol no big surprise there, but I do believe in adaptation. There is a diferece...but that's in another thread.

LOL I get annoyed when people quote the Bible as evidence against itself. Makes no sense to me anyways. It's worse when they don't know what they're talking about.

Of course, part of that problem is biblical illiteracy in the chucrh itself. People just here a reference and take it at face value without checking it themselves. It makes them easily swayed.

FLESH:People of faith regularly claim that atheism is responsible for some of the most appalling crimes of the 20th century.

SISTAR:I don't blame athiesm, I blame people. I won't even blame all religion, or any one religion. There are good muslims, and there are suicidal muslims. It is all about people.