About those LED lights

Exactly, Turtle420. This light is amazing. I went through the research NASA did on it and I was extremely impressed. It has pretty much all the advantages you could want for a larger grow op. Anyone who uses lights at 1000 watt or over and wanted the best should take a look. It is more expensive but it saves on electricity and because there are no longer heat issues it may be a little more affordable than it looks.

I saw the post yesterday on the cannabis site that grew with the LED's. I'm going to check that out now. Amazing how fun this is! I don't even grow any more but I will as soon as this is a legal medical state.

Damn, they say they no longer sell the video. Seems the government came and arrested the producer. Sounds like the government believes they work just fine!

I call that an endorsement.

Does anyone have the DVD already? If so could you make a avi or divx of it to post on the file share programs?

Ok, never mind. I wrote them an email to see about getting a new video and this is the reply I got back.

"Yes, they are AWESOME! However, to replace 1 1000 HPS, it takes 20 Red and
10 Blue Lights which translates to around $3500! WHEW! It is good to make
the one time investment, but not for the faint in the pocketbook.

Thanks, I will let you know!"

That could still be affordable if you aren't going for the equivilent of 1000watt HPS. I guess for a small grower with a 250watt HPS it would make sense. Also, from what I read it seems these work best in conjunction with normal lights. I will keep pumping them for info.

Peace

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Originally Posted by BigBlock

That is absolutely, 100% false. 6 watts of LED does NOT come even close to producing the amount of light from 100 watts of HID. Yes, 6 watts of LED produces next to no heat, but that's because it produces next to no light. If you had a 6 watt HID it wouldn't make any heat either, and it would put out a hell of alot more light.

You will not grow any amount of smokeable marijuana using only 6 watts, I guarantee it.

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yea man.. u dont know what your talkin about and please do us all a favor and dont jump in to somthing that u havent done your research:twocents: . If you knew anything about HPS systems and how they work or the light coming from them you would know that only 25% of the light of a HPS system is usable plant spectrum lighting,and the rest is wasted heat energy.
Un like, "broad spectrum" plant grow lights in which u refer to your HPS example, which produce a lot of
light plants can't use efficiently, Led growbars delivers the colors of light
used by plants for efficient and healthy growth % .
By leaving out light plants don't need, you further provide more energy savings over conventional grow lighting.

o...and BTW a single bar can equal 125 watts hps.:thumbsup:

Crispyfried, did you ever get a chance to try out those Gro-bars?

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Originally Posted by ledgrower

yea man.. u dont know what your talkin

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This coming from somebody who can't even grasp the concept of the shift key. :rolleyes: Like I said before, I have a degree from a 4 year university that says I'm an expert. Do you?

I notice Yeah crispyfried hasn't said a word since he said he would be posting "soon" a month and a half ago. Could it be that they don't work and he's embarrassed about how much money he wasted on this crap? ;)

I would hope embarrassment doesn't stop someone from posting their experiences - It could save someone from wasting a lot of money.

I think LEDs have a lot of potential for smaller spaces because of their low profile and the fact they do not require a ballast to drive them (which can generate a lot of excess heat on its own). Also, LED's don't have the same degree RF interference which may be beneficial in some situations.

As stated earlier, HID lights do generate a lot of IR which is not used in photosynthesis and translates to heat. They also generate a lot of green and yellow light which is simply reflected back by the plant pigments. According to data gathered from LI-COR Quantom meter and sensors, HPS bulbs emmitt 2/3 to 4/5 of unusable light/heat energy.

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Originally Posted by MonkeyRacket

I would hope embarrassment doesn't stop someone from posting their experiences - It could save someone from wasting a lot of money.

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Very true.

Yeah I have my grow bars. Right now I'm only growing legal stuff due to a recent scare. I'm currently using my 200 watt CFL in order to keep my box warm, but I plan to start using the LEDs in about a month. I can't risk just using LEDs right now because I've got an expensive kratom plant cutting on like life support in my box that needs high temperatures. I did try the LEDs for a few days though so I can tell you a little about them. They do give off a slight amount of heat, maybe enough to raise the temperature of a small grow box with very little ventilation a few degrees. The bars seem to be of great quality, although the power adapters are a bit crappy. You can run up to eight bars off of one adapter. Alot of the light that they emit is not visible to the human eye so you won't get much light leakage out of grow areas, but the downside to this is that you'll probably want to have a cfl as well in order to see your plants adequately. Unless your house is well insulated and has good climate control you'll probably want to use LEDs during the warm months only, or use a heater or something to heat your grow area.