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what the? i can see your truths, just beacuse i do not apply them to myself doesnt mean i dont see them!Quote:
Originally Posted by MudFu
what evidence do you have that i am not seeing your truths?
and just because i believe in an after life doesnt mean i fear death,
i could argue and say that because you believe in void-death, that you are afraid of a continuing life...
but i didnt attack you like that, did i?
emos kill themselves.
EMO
Attack? Someone is thats this to personaly. Also, I never fully came out and said what I believe about what can happen after death. You can not "attack" my ideas when I'm still trying to develope my ideas. I have no idea what to expect when I die and you do not either. All I meant was that you have no real idea that what you say is true, nor can I say it isn't true. You can be wrong just as people who believe in God. You just never know fully, not until the day you die. I don't know where you got the idea of me believing in a void-death, I never said anything that would show I do.
Well how about "no you dont understand, you WILL see them again, just not in this life, not in this body, well maybe you will see them again in a dream, but you will never see their body again, they are not gone, stop shutting them out as if they were." or "look, i know no one can just simply accept what i say, and that's exactly why i am trying to hammer it in, because if i dont, you jsut get to put up with ten times worse than me when you die!" How am I not suppose to take this as you nto seeing someone elses beliefs. You really do not seem to see or understand what someone who has a different view of yours sees and you don't seem to try and understand. You try to force your ideas onto us. Saying something like "Trying to hammer it in" is just enough proof I need. If anyone started attacking someone elses ideas it was you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf
"am I not suppose to take this as you nto seeing someone elses beliefs"
i never said you were wrong, i never said that im right, i am simply putting what i see out there, and you want to attack me for the way i say it, go right on ahead, i know i say it without uncertenty, not without reason, but just because i know what i know doesnt mean im not going to let you believe what you want to believe, stop taking my "opinion" so personally!
I'm not taking it personally. I'm just saying you can not tell someone to believe in something else cuz their idea isn't right. "im not going to let you believe what you want to believe" but it is my beliefs, why do you feel that you have the right to make me change them...or anyone else. Unless I have been reading what your saying wrong, which it does happen but I don't really think I am. Can we stop using this word "attack". No one is really attacking anything that someone is saying, we are just sharing our views on a topic, I never saw anything you said or I said or anyone else in this topic as an attack...I shouldn't have used the word in my last post but it was only cuz you sued it I did too. Lol anyways...
woah woah woah, hold up, who's forcing what here? i never once said you cant believe what you want, i am ONLY telling it as it is, weather or not you believe it is YOUR CHOICE, i can only hope to convice you!
i AM NOT forcing anything! if i were to force it, i'd threaton you, i'd call you names, i'd attack you, but i am trying my damnedest not to!
if you percieve attacks or force from me, i dont know how you do, it is so completely unintentional. please, i do not mean to force anything, if you feel like i am forcing anything on you, no offence, but that appears weak minded to me, if you feel that my constant babbling of what i know and believe is forcing you to change your thoughts, that is weak minded, hold fast to what you feel is RIGHT, dont listen to others unless you think they have a good enough point, dont be weak minded and feel like you're being forced to believe anything.
Ok look fine "force" is a stong word. But hows push. You push your idea. Its not as threating and it does not mean the same as to force. Anyways I didn't say you were changing my mind cuz once again I will say this I do not have everything set in my mind yet. I am still unsure what to believe. This is kidda one of the reasons I ask a lot a questions and at times it tends to get out of hand and this it comes off as I'm mad when I really am not...I also tend to say certin words I shouldn't. Anyways, all I was trying to say to you was that you can not disprove anothers idea because is does not go with your idea. You can say something like "well I believe" but when you say something like "I'm telling it as it is" it makes it seem like you show no respect to anothers beliefs and while the truth is no one knows if their beliefs are truly right.
okay, i understand better :) thanks for not being an immature pissant and just chalking it up to anything, at least you tried to help me understand, not many people are actualyl that considerate (or paitent) anymore :(
now, whilst i cannot disprove other ideas and beliefs (this is impossible, given the truth) i CAN try to aid you all in finding and understanding the truth.
ther eis only one truth that is both true and universal, it is what we all are, and it is what creates reality, therefore reality is directly a result of what we, the truth, believe, doubt, and fear.
this cannot be proven, because we cannot see it happening right away.
in fact, all the cartoons and movies and tv shows ever created are REAL, but it might take 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 EONS before they become PHYSICALLY real.
it takes the thought and belief of something to create it, and it takes a LOT of thought energy.
thought energy is zero point, all you have to do is observe a thought and energy will be added to that thought. if you think it enough, it eventually becomes true, because YOU ARE THE TRUTH.
i know im doing a terrible job at aiding people to finding the truth; im just saying it as it is, not giving people much room to explore and find it themselves, but knowing this, i WANT you to explore and find the truth on your own understanding, it is because of this that i CANNOT deny you any of your beliefs. i just have the habit of telling it as it is, and often mistake opinions as debate lol TERRIBLY sorry all :D
Do you mean to say that the truth is pre-made, and that a simple thought no matter what can be the truth as well? And thanks I try not to be much of an ass but at times I really come across as one.