When was your awakening? or are you still asleep?
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You are right in saying that it is my brain which came up with all of that stuff. My brain is a kind of analog computer. It takes in input in the form of experiences, and computes output based on what I know from past experiences, what emotions I am feeling, and the structure of my brain (which, in turn, is based on my genes). That output is whatever I choose to do. How does it make more sense to say that I take in this input to my brain, then my brain sends that to a "soul" in a parallel universe which does all the real computation of the most logical choice to make, and then sends it back to my brain which moves my muscles in accordance with the decision? That's two steps more than necessary, and it needs a whole parallel universe of "soul stuff" that nobody can detect to back it up. If there really was such a parallel universe, and it was interacting with physical reality as much as people claim, it would be easily detectable. We would see things happening which the laws of physics just don't predict.
i don't know what the fuck your interpretation of a soul is, maybe we're arguing completely different points. i don't think my soul is in a parallel universe, i think it's part of me. ppl sometimes describe it as an aura too.
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No, I do not just copy and paste things. I am really writing all of this stuff myself. I do express the same ideas in different boards, but I can hardly see what's wrong with expressing the same ideas consistently.
what i meant was that i think you copy and paste your same posts that you've already written. because you argue the same points everytime, and you use the same examples. it wasn't a literall statement.
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Please provide me with evidence of this God or these souls. Do you really expect me to believe something based on the subjective feelings of other people? If the universe is really run by this totalitarian dictator called God, I want some proof of it. Real proof. If this thing is really interacting with things in the physical world, there ought to be some evidence besides your inkling that it is. I certainly don't feel this thing, whatever it is, and cannot see why a God who really loves humanity so much would do such a thorough job of making sure there's no proof of his existence. Couldn't he just come out and say it? It sure would end a lot of the murder and strife on this planet if people didn't have any more religious issues to quabble over. Muslim people "feel" in their "souls" the existence of one deity, but their Hindu neighbors "feel" in their "souls" the existence of many deities, and they're killing each other over this disagreement. If both parties are wrong and your God is the real one, and if he has even the slightest respect for humanity, why doesn't he just come out and stop it all?
i don't give a damn you to believe in anything. i'm just explaining where i'm coming from. and for the millionth time i don't think other parties are wrong, i just fucking explained that in what you quoted from me earlier, i don't see how you quoted it if you didn't read it. you just assume that if i'm talking about God, i'm a self-righteous bitch. thanks.
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No, I don't comprehend. If there really is a God, and he's hiding his existence from me, he must not think very highly of me. If he's not just a fantasy, then he must not want me to believe in him since he hasn't given me any of these "feelings" you have that supposedly prove his existence beyond a shadow of a doubt, and he hasn't come out and shown his existence to me through, say, a booming voice from the sky.
just like people can feel a presence of another person around them, or something, that's how i feel it. you don't want to find a higher power, so you probably won't be open to ever assume that that could possibly be an option. and i don't care if that's how you see things. and i didn't say these feelings prove an existence. i don't know that God is how i see him. i know i'm aware of something else in the world, some other force and something paranormal.
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Hey, you're the one who asked me why somebody would believe in a faith if it's illogical. I just gave you the straightforward answer. People have faiths because they're taught to. And since these different faiths cannot possibly all be true, most people must logically be following the wrong faith. It's not just "different interpretations" of the same set of data; these are completely mutually incompatible sets of data. Your God and the Hindu gods cannot co-inhabit the same universe. Most Hindus believe in many gods because they are brought up to believe in many gods, and you probably believe in one God because you were brought up to believe in one God. But all gods do have at least one thing in common: for some reason they are very intent on hiding themselves from humanity, on erasing every tiny shred of evidence that could be used to prove that they exist.
i seriously think it's just a different perspective and personal choice. i'm not saying my perspective is right and all others are wrong, because i'm definitly not capable of judging that. but people have faith because they feel something pulling them towards that, the personal perspective of faith is taught to us, but there's something that keeps people there. it's not because of ignorance or unintelligence, but they feel a connection to a higher power and that's their way of making sense of it.
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If there really is such energy out there, why can't all our energy-detecting scientific equipment detect it? If it is not the kind of energy that energy-detecting scientific equipment detects, then how can you call it energy? What the hell IS this stuff? You might be interested in knowing what the word "energy" really means:
http://physicsweb.org/articles/world/15/7/2
the site is interesting, and thanks i knew a lot of it, but it's cool to see more facts and examples and another explanation. that site shows that energy doesn't have one definite meaning. energy is motion, so the motion of positive force is positive energy.
