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By all means, I think that the safest way is either through ingestion or with the use of a vaporizer. However, I don't think that marijuana as a whole is dangerous beyond lung problems, and even that is questionable for now. I doubt that any heart trouble, liver trouble, brain problems, etc. will ever occur from marijuana. That's my point.
look, this is whats been established:
achol is worse and so is tobacco
maijuana does have its negatives but none as significant
vaps, water bongs, and ingestion lessen these negatives.
oh, and seag420, the heart rate is increased only because your body has just been introduced to an excess amount of thc (meaning the body didnt make it). so the heart rate increases to get the thc out as fast as possible, this is why ppl get high after small amounts of weed, whereas tobacco it takes more and more to get the effect. also, you cannot compare weed induced heart rate increase to an exrcise induced increase, because when u exercise your is SOOO much faster, hence faster breathing, you can actually feel your heart pulsing without putting your hand over it. with weed you cant feel this pulsing but you know its there bcuz yer still alive. And even IF, when you're high (after your haert rate increase), you donnt get enough oxygen would u not feel tired or the need to sit and rest for a while? also, your heart does not get tired nor will it ever get tired, because its a cardiac muscle, just one of 3 kinds of muscles.
skeletal- provides the force of locomotion and other voluntary body movements.
smooth- lines the walls of the hollow structures of the body, such as the intestine, urinary bladder, uterus, and blood vessels. Its contraction, which is involuntary, reduces the size of these hollow organs.
cardiac- This type of muscle only exists in your heart. Unlike other types of muscle, cardiac muscle never gets tired. It works automatically and constantly without ever pausing to rest. Cardiac muscle contracts to squeeze blood out of your heart, and relaxes to fill your heart with blood.
in conclusion, weed is better. we'll leave at this becuase while debating over the net is fun, but it is also very pointless as nothing will come of it.
u know what... i havent realy seen any posts on the first page saying anything about maybe that weed and alcohal will maybe has the same affects on your body as the other one, but then agin, lets think about this, its alot easyer to smoke pot in your room with out worring about empty beer cans, and usaly when i drink, i have to take a ride with sum one to the store, then get drunk sum were around the store, then get back home(thank god i dont have a drivers lisence.) and when u get high, most ppls dont get in fights, as to were if u pound back a few beers, u start to get cocky, and think that u can start kicking ass, and the worst thing alcohal has ever done to me so far is, i had in pared vison, and fucked sum fat ugly whore, and ended up having to pay for a abotion. and on top of me having to pay for the abortion, i had to put NIX on my balls. so realy i prefre smoking a joint then drinking
P.S. im just kiding about getting a girl pregeanet, althu i did end up with crabs from fucking a fat ugly whore.
I personaly find it really hard to deal with the after effects of alcohol. I am extra sensitive to headaches. Getting shit faced, dizzy as fuck, trippin over shit and puking aint my idea of fun. I like weed, the only after effect is a mild burn out and its relaxing.
Is the high weaker with a vape?
I'm not a doctor, but with the heartrate thing, just drinking a couple cups of coffee can have about the same effects, nothing to worry about.
It's not necessarily "weaker", but it's a different sorta high. I get good body buzzes off from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by sharpezor
This Seag420 guy's a nark! :p
Nah, you're spouting proper bullshit, alcohol is far worse than weed, the same goes with tobacco. You can argue about all your 'increased heart rate' and the way you suck the bong harder than a cig' :rolleyes: It's funny how no-one agrees with you, yet you think you're so right. Suck up your pride and admit you're wrong. I will never regret smoking the herb, never.
It's hard to believe that the government(s) would tell the most ridiculous lies about cannabis/hemp/marijuana, and that the press would believe them and keep repeating the lies, even long after they've been proven lies.
:rolleyes:
But it's been going on for almost 100 years now, ever since fine upstanding white people in America, many of whom took cannabis medications or even smoked hashish, discovered by way of sensational headlines, that many black and hispanic folks smoked a violent sex crime causing drug called marihuana.
:eek:
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=34348
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Quoted for truth. If justthinktwice.com had a forum, I'd say post there =D. But seriously, although there are some harmful effects associated with weed (key ones being psycological disorders in suseptible people) it's a lot less harmful then alcohol. Weed also isn't really a poison like alcohol, it's a chemical that activates receptors in your brain. Alcohol is a poison that your liver tries to remove =PQuote:
Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue
i just say quit bitchin, if people dont want to smoke then let them, its there choice.
Seag420,
THC is not toxic in any real sense of the word. I mean, water is toxic is very large dosages, but I've never seen anyone touting the dangers of drinking water. There are millions of pot smokers in the world, and none of them have ever died (as far as I know) from something directly related to marijuana use. You can't say that about virtually ANY other drug. Even stuff like Tylenol! People O/D on OTC medications all the time, and these aren't made illegal. Why not?
NO ONE here is saying that using marijuana is harmless. In fact, when used frequently in large doses for a long period of time, it probably does have negative consequences. What the government needs to do is sponsor more legitimate scientific research about the effects of using marijuana instead of just spreading propaganda. That way, people could know the safe amounts to use and at what point they were seriously risking their health.
Also, a lot of stoners are unhealthy simply because they don't exercise much. Like any habit that involves a lot of sitting around and doing nothing, smoking pot is NOT going to get you into tip-top shape. But you know what? I accept that, because I think the benefits of using marijuana outweigh the health risks.