I LIED

Wrong thread again Ammie?

;)

"No, I'm taking your argument to it's natural extreme. A method of debate I'm certain you're familiar with."

No, your saying one equals the other even though they are not the same. Your saying speech is the same as action. Would you like to take that to it's natural extreme?

"So if you were, for example, opening a store you would have a vote on who worked for you? I rather think you'd employ people you judged to be suitable."

I don't think your getting the concept of democracy and dictatorship. Because a dictatorship is run in a open and decent manner makes it no less a dictatorship. You say this is democracy??? LOL! You may find that your little store is also a dictatorship if you take the time to think about it, just as this board is. It's Rons house, he's a good dick, but a dictator just the same. That is why he has the ultimate end game for this site, or marihemp anyway. In any case your dead wrong about this board being even close to a democracy. Ron will listen, but in the end it is his choice.

"Either that or you may need to check a dictionary. Authority.. 'representative of the wishes of the majority' is democracy last time I checked."

Yep, mob rules. But you don't have that here do you? You got one suppreme ruler, and his appointed law men. Don't get me wrong, I like Ron, he's proven to be a good guy and a friend of Freedom. But in the end, you don't have mob rules here. If you think you do, try to have me banned with your majority and see what happens.

"I'd guess on a cannabis forum they may have meant help with issues concerning cannabis. Just a wild guess."

Could be that a board that says "Friendly talk about nothing in particular", is just that.

"Anyone seen Ron recently? Oh where can that dictator be? He needs to be controlling every thread to be doing his dictatorial job properly. Maybe he just leaves it to the members to say what they want, and the moderators to respond. Is it sinking in yet?"

I don't know man, why don't you tell me? Your the one that seems to be confused here.

"No my friend. I meant you were being an arse."

Why thank you! Complement accepted.

"Well, rehearsed answer, bravo. I tend to find people are given the label trolls by those who recognize trolls."

Exactly what is a troll anyway? Can you define that for me? If I am a troll, and me and you are doing the same thing, wouldn't that make you a troll also?

"But please keep it up"

No worries mate, I'll stick around awhile. At least until I decide to go back under my rock again. Then you will just have to deal with me poping in and out every so often.

Toker

It would also be nice to have Libertarian Toker banned. From what I can tell he likes to listen to pedophiles and child molesters. No one wants that shit here, I don't understand why you would. This is a Cannabis web site, though it is a "general" forum it shouldn't be a "pedophile & child molester freedom of speech" forum.


Quoting people is a lot easier on your eyes if you actually quote them, it isn't hard.

i wouldn't like to see him banned,
Libertarian Toker obviousley has his beliefs and we have ours, but i don't understand how he can't see why Bloogleshleimens was banned :confused:

Strange as it may seem I would argue against banning Toker or anyone else who is willing to put forward a rational argument for their beliefs. He can pick apart my points, I can pick apart his, maybe we'll both end up learning something.

peace :)

But why would anyone want a child molester here if he/she were not one themself...

Believe what you want, it's kind of odd that this guy is defending him with pride.

Toker - Although I am enjoying our debate I'm not sure 'The Lounge' is the place for it.
I believe NWM intends to start a couple of open debate threads tomorrow and I hope you'll be joining in. I am likely to be offline for quite some time today unfortunately.

peace :)

Nugs, making judgements without evidence is never safe practice. The version of events I read was that bloogle showered with his neices when he was five, and his neices are very nearly the same age he is. I was not in chat when this was being discussed so I only have the evidence of the forum to make judgements. I was quite content to see him banned for the endless pages of meaningless drivel he posted. We only ever had his word concerning his age and in the most part he sounded like a very stoned child.

peace :)

I wouldn't just believe anyone saying this but when a mod and people that have 'respect' on the forums post it, i'm 99.9% it's true.

Some things just shouldn't be told to the public.

"It would also be nice to have Libertarian Toker banned. From what I can tell he likes to listen to pedophiles and child molesters."

Yet I will bet that you don't know what the "pedifile" even said. Like your doing with me, I'll bet your just making claims without any real evidence to back up your claim. Your claim against me is false. Does that translate into the acusations against Bloog being true, or greatly exagerated? I am starting to wonder after being acused myself, if maybe the whole thing is not some silly exageration. Since no on can say what exactly was said, I will have to assume that most of it, like with what is now being said about me, is exagerated out of proportion with what really was said. Condeming and exagerating what I said in the way that you are, only serves to tell me that you guys don't really care for the truth to much.

"Libertarian Toker obviousley has his beliefs and we have ours, but i don't understand how he can't see why Bloogleshleimens was banned"

Because I didn't see it could be the exact reason. I understand the reasons given for banning. I am finding it rather disgusting though, that people clammer for the conviction of someone without ever seeing any evidence of what they are condeming him for. It is becoming clear that most who are condeming bloog are doing so out of dislike instead of evidence. I guess I am not so easly convinced as some without the evidence, because I have only read a few of his post's, and none of what I read indicated to me that he was a pedifile bent on abusing children. Now I have been convicted for something not true of the same nature. That doesn't help matters much since I know it is not true.

"No one wants that shit here, I don't understand why you would."

Who say's I want it here? I would preffer not to have it talked about, but not at the expense of Freedom. Looks a little like due process may be a thing of the past also. All that seems to be needed to convince people of guilt here is a few words proclaiming guilt. Seeing how quick people are to condem makes me wonder a little about why no one can produce what was actualy said.

"But why would anyone want a child molester here if he/she were not one themself..."

Can you show me where I said I wanted child molesters here? I find it absolutly amazing that I can stand up for free speech, and because of that be acused of being a child molester. I would stand for a socialist's free speech also, that doesn't make me one. The logic behind that kind of thinking is rather silly, and it is becoming clearer to me what's really going on here with every passing post.

"Believe what you want, it's kind of odd that this guy is defending him with pride."

I defend Freedom, not pedifiles.

"He can pick apart my points, I can pick apart his, maybe we'll both end up learning something."

I like to call it friendly talk about nothing inparticular. I have learned a lot doing it, and I enjoy it also. For some strange reason some people seem to want it banned.

"Toker - Although I am enjoying our debate I'm not sure 'The Lounge' is the place for it. "

Why not? There are boards for everything you can think of related to weed. Why is this one that is for nothing inparticular have to fall under the "has to be about weed" catagory? It doesn't say nothing inparticular about weed, it just says nothing inparticular. The restrictions to speech are not enough, lets add a few more. What ever, if you want to take it somewhere else, like say the politics board at marihemp, I'm all for it. We can talk about how chickens shit, and many other of the wall subjects over there, and no one will tell us not to.

"I am likely to be offline for quite some time today unfortunately."

It's raining and grey here. I'll have to do some honey do's, but I'll be mostly just hanging around getting high and BSing today. I wouldn't mind moving on to a different subject when ya get back. This one seems to be about dead. I'm sure we can find something else to disagree on that's not going to get me called a child molester. I wonder which is worse, calling someone a child molester thats not one, or trying to stand up for Freedom? It's good to know that you don't run with the herd Hvy, I look foward to our next discussion.

"Some things just shouldn't be told to the public."

Was that Bush, or was it Rummy that said that? Say, what are those things the public shouldn't know anyway? Can you tell me what they are?

Toker