Another thread about China....

I don't beleive in fear mongering but I think it would be irresponsible to simply embrace them and not look at what they are doing. They are buying up all the worlds resources. The US and China are using up all the resources it would be foolish to not pay attention.
How would you handle the spying and technology theft?

What about being completely dependent on China when they own everything.
Will they be like Walmart, who sells things really cheap until they put the little man out of business then they raise the price when the competitions gone?

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Originally Posted by BlueCat

from a chinese news paper....

It is assumed by many that one day China leading East Asia will simply walk over and totally surpass the old decadent West, and ascend to global supremacy. The United States will turn inward out of fear of domination, and along with their European compatriots leave the world to the rule of Asian powers, notably China. This view is shared by many within China....

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Do you have a link to the full text of this newspaper article? I'd like to read who is saying this and when it was written. The language used, "decadent West", sounds more like something written in the 60's, not today. In any case I would seriously like to read this.

I do agree that the rapid rise is China's economy is going to have a major effect on the other major economies of the world. This in inevitable. You can not have a population of 1/3 billion and consistant double, or nearly double, digit economic growth without having some effect, good or bad, on the rest of the world. As far as an "economic take over" is concerned, however, China is still a long way off.

A lot of people have been shaken up by the recent attempts by Chinese companies to buy Maytag and Unocal. They see this as an attempt of China to take over our economy. China's total worldwide direct investment, however, is still far behind the U.S. direct investment in China alone. Here's an interesting article from, of all places, the Christian Science Monitor,

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0630/p17s01-cogn.html

It is highly unlikely that China will ever "own everything" or even a significant percentage of "everything". Certainly not in our lifetime. Anyone who believes this might as well go hide with Pisshead in his cabin and wait for the Fed's to bust down the door.

U.S. jobs being lost to cheap Chinese labor is a more realistic concern but this too, is inevitable. It simply follows certain domestic and international economic principles that are highly unlikely to change. People like to point the finger at American corporations for raking in huge profits from this while forgetting that they too are benefitting. What would happen if all of these jobs suddenly came back to the U.S.? Skyrocketing inflation, that's what. The increased cost of having an American worker produce them would cause the prices of these goods to increase to the point that most coud no longer afford them. Second, the additional money pumped into the economy from these new jobs would cause further inflation. Workers will now demand more money to pay for the increasing cost of goods resulting in more inflation. People say its a small price to pay to have the jobs back but really, how many of us want to pay $20.00 for a fucking McDonalds happy meal?

What will most likely happen is that China will gain in certain areas that is is strong but fall behind in others. Although it may be painful at first the U.S. will adjust accordingly and will gain in areas where we are strong. This isn't a bad thing though as it pushes us to be better rather than accept complacency. This has been going on for hundreds of years folks. Different players on different teams but its been happening none the less.

And, if you're still concerned, I'll be happy to offer to teach you how to speak Chinese.....

I will have to look through my history and find where I read it.

I am trying to cook dinner and post lol

Anyone who believes this might as well go hide with Pisshead in his cabin and wait for the Fed's to bust down the door.
theres no need to be rude or defensive....I'm confused by this I thought we were talking about China and their policies...

CSM is a great read BTW. Damn I burned the potatoes, brb :)

how dare anyone question the feds' authority or motives, they are all knowing and care so much about me. that would just be silly.

let's see how far that gets us!

Sorry 'bout your potatoes BlueCat and sorry if I came off as being rude. I certainly wasn't directing any intentional rudeness at you. I guess I was just trying to emphasize the unlikeliness of this happening and got carried away.

potatoes survived! Ok so I am still worried about espionage and motive. They are buying up the world but then so are we. I really want to talk more on this Fengzi
if you can calm my fears than more power to you! I even considered moving to China at one time so I am no way against China, but I worry about a communist government. Maybe when I know more China I won't be worried.
I need more answers but right now I gotta go eat dinner.....I'll ttyl.

How much do you know about Communism?

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Actually, I'm glad to see the value drop a little. Why you may ask? Assholes in Europe have had the trade advantage on us the same way China does...lower value of currency equals lower cost goods. That creates a need for more exports, that equals more work in the U.S.. Look at the news...which countries bitch the heaviest about the "declining U.S. dollar"? France and Germany! The same dirty fucks that abused the Food for Oil program!

One North America for the NWO? You really don't have ANY faith in your own government I guess.

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i dont have faith in my government. i never had faith in my government.


i have faith in the canadian people to do the right thing and not let our way of life be changed drastically unless we say so.

paul martin is a schmuck. the whole fucking parliament is turning into a bunch of fucks. i dont care and never did care about them.

and the american dollar dropping in value isnt going to help when the bill collectors come for their money. how much was that defecit again?


all hail poverty in first world countries

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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko

i dont have faith in my government. i never had faith in my government.


i have faith in the canadian people to do the right thing and not let our way of life be changed drastically unless we say so.

paul martin is a schmuck. the whole fucking parliament is turning into a bunch of fucks. i dont care and never did care about them.

and the american dollar dropping in value isnt going to help when the bill collectors come for their money. how much was that defecit again?


all hail poverty in first world countries

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What did you think of Chretien?

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Originally Posted by BlueCat

What did you think of Chretien?

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i didnt mind him all that much. but he seemed like a pretty cool guy and actually during his time in office canada was a whole lot different.

it actually seemed more peaceful and it felt really safe. now, a few years later we have dodgier areas and people are getting shot a whole lot more.
i blame that on immigration though...at least immigration with limited restrictions.


but back to chretien...i was only a punk teenager just a couple of years ago and so i wasnt really into politics. so he may or may not have sent canada down the path to armageddon. i've been busy with american current events which is pretty bad.


man, im an asshole


all hail perspective.

Well I thought Chretien was pretty cool.

I liked it when he told the Bush people he wasn't kisses anyones arse. lol :D