seriously,america is involved in a ruthless war that is going to take a while.we are gonna kill and maim alot of people,some of whom are innocent.thats war.we are gonna kill anyone who tries to stop us.
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seriously,america is involved in a ruthless war that is going to take a while.we are gonna kill and maim alot of people,some of whom are innocent.thats war.we are gonna kill anyone who tries to stop us.
lol, u sound like a terrorist man, "we are gonna kill anyone who tries to stop us". Thats probably why no one likes america, cuz we wanna go kill everybody for not thinkin like us. Terrorist's i can understand, but if you wanna go attacking Iran and North Korea because they oppose america, get ready for a shit storm of missiles.
Republicans are trying to use the "nuclear option" to seize absolute power and we all know the saying absolute power corrupts absolutely. They will appoint judges who will roll back years of progression protecting the people that keep this country running,the workers. Judge Janice brown is just one example with her extremist judicial philosophy that calls for courts to block congress in blocking things like guaranteed 40 hour work week,the minimum wage,The Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act and the Endangered Species Act. These judges have no regard to the future of our children, the middle class or the poor. We all know the nuclear option is a trick to eliminate the filibuster.One of the main arguments used by Bill cat killer Frist (google it) and other conservatives about employing the nuclear option to eliminate the filibuster of judicial nominees is that the Democratic use of the filibuster to oppose judicial nominations is unprecedented. He has called the use of the filibuster to oppose judicial nominees dangerous and radical. On his own website, there is a text of a speech he gave to the Federalist Society on November 11, 2004, where he said:
The Senate now faces a choice: either we accept a new and destructive practice, or we act to restore constitutional balance.
C. Boyden Gray, Chairman of the Committee for Justice, believes that the liberal's use of the filibuster to block judges violates the "constitutional principle of Separation of Powers. The Constitution grants the Executive primary power over judicial appointments while granting the Senate, as a body--not partisan factions within it--a check via majority vote. By altering that standard, the Senate Democrats are, in effect, arrogating power to the Senate from the Executive."
According to Gray, the liberal filibuster of judicial nominees "is absolutely unprecedented. Its history is two years old."
This is, simply put, A LIE. They are liars and they tells lies so much they think we are all dumb enough to believe them...well, are you?
On March 8, 2000, thirteen Senators, all of whom were Republicans, attempted to filibuster Marsha Berzon for U.S. Circuit judge. You can read the roll call vote right here. Eight of these Senators are currently in the United States Senate: Allard (CO), Brownback (KS), Bunning (KY), Craig (ID), DeWine (OH), Enzi (WY), Inhofe (OK) and Shelby (AL). None of these eight have expressed opposition to the elimination of judicial filibusters, a practice they themselves once tried to engage in. Later that same day, those same thirteen Senators, in addition to Senator Bill Frist, attempted to filibuster the nomination of Richard Paez to US Circuit Judge.
Conservatives know that there is a history of attempting to block judicial nominations through the use of the filibuster. They know this because some of them participated in such attempts. Bill Frist participated in one such attempt.
For Republicans, the real principle behind the attempt to destroy the filibuster for judicial nominees has nothing to do with the Constitution, it only has to do with winning and losing. It is, in short, a power grab. To control it all then they can fuck the future up for your kids....start wars to steal oil and kill off any animal if their habitat would make money...force their religion on others...take away your rights...have you read the Patriot act 2?
and this is for Amsterdam.....what has he done good? anything name it! oh and why aren't you over there fighting for your commander? and why is your name Amsterdam? You can fucking talk about killing people why aren't you there?
www.moveon.org please sign petition
thanks
Bluecat
if they provide support to terrorists than they are a target.i'm sure we already have a deep spy network and people are doing things we will never hear about to people that will never be seen again.i sleep better at night knowing that.
Republicans are trying to use the "nuclear option" to seize absolute power and we all know the saying absolute power corrupts absolutely. They will appoint judges who will roll back years of progression protecting the people that keep this country running,the workers. Judge Janice brown is just one example with her extremist judicial philosophy that calls for courts to block congress in blocking things like guaranteed 40 hour work week,the minimum wage,The Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act and the Endangered Species Act. These judges have no regard to the future of our children, the middle class or the poor. We all know the nuclear option is a trick to eliminate the filibuster.One of the main arguments used by Bill cat killer Frist (google it) and other conservatives about employing the nuclear option to eliminate the filibuster of judicial nominees is that the Democratic use of the filibuster to oppose judicial nominations is unprecedented. He has called the use of the filibuster to oppose judicial nominees dangerous and radical. On his own website, there is a text of a speech he gave to the Federalist Society on November 11, 2004, where he said:
The Senate now faces a choice: either we accept a new and destructive practice, or we act to restore constitutional balance.
C. Boyden Gray, Chairman of the Committee for Justice, believes that the liberal's use of the filibuster to block judges violates the "constitutional principle of Separation of Powers. The Constitution grants the Executive primary power over judicial appointments while granting the Senate, as a body--not partisan factions within it--a check via majority vote. By altering that standard, the Senate Democrats are, in effect, arrogating power to the Senate from the Executive."
According to Gray, the liberal filibuster of judicial nominees "is absolutely unprecedented. Its history is two years old."
This is, simply put, A LIE. They are liars and they tells lies so much they think we are all dumb enough to believe them...well, are you?
On March 8, 2000, thirteen Senators, all of whom were Republicans, attempted to filibuster Marsha Berzon for U.S. Circuit judge. You can read the roll call vote right here. Eight of these Senators are currently in the United States Senate: Allard (CO), Brownback (KS), Bunning (KY), Craig (ID), DeWine (OH), Enzi (WY), Inhofe (OK) and Shelby (AL). None of these eight have expressed opposition to the elimination of judicial filibusters, a practice they themselves once tried to engage in. Later that same day, those same thirteen Senators, in addition to Senator Bill Frist, attempted to filibuster the nomination of Richard Paez to US Circuit Judge.
Conservatives know that there is a history of attempting to block judicial nominations through the use of the filibuster. They know this because some of them participated in such attempts. Bill Frist participated in one such attempt.
For Republicans, the real principle behind the attempt to destroy the filibuster for judicial nominees has nothing to do with the Constitution, it only has to do with winning and losing. It is, in short, a power grab. To control it all then they can fuck the future up for your kids....start wars to steal oil and kill off any animal if their habitat would make money...force their religion on others...take away your rights...have you read the Patriot act 2?
and this is for Amsterdam.....what has he done good? anything name it! oh and why aren't you over there fighting for your commander? and why is your name Amsterdam?
www.moveon.org please sign petition
thanks
Bluecat
Bush-Clinton: What Went Wrong?
http://www.cato.org/dailys/11-13-96.html
alot of that stuff is wasted money anyway.
well you are finally right.....there are people doing things we never hear about..they are called the CIA thanks to Gonzale and his new torture laws that protect us from getting in trouble.... they are kidknapping people they assume are quilty taking them to other countries like Saudi and torturing them.....then they say oh we did not know they would do that.... :rolleyes: That is against the Geneva Convention and international law but then you probably don't support either of those entities as well because Bush doesn't and he has you sheep well trained. BaaaaaaaaaaaQuote:
Originally Posted by amsterdam
How good could you sleep at night if it were one of your family over in Iraq?
I notice you did not give me an answer...what has Bush done for you...since after all it is YOU that matters right?
Cat
and what about the formerly named school of the americas?
talk about harboring and training terrorists...
http://www.soaw.org/new/
Anybody else getting bored of this same argument over and over?