Miracle grow soil

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Originally Posted by mmjman

Don not use MG. The soil is often very old and/or infested with pests. Plus the ingredients used to make the soil contain toxic chemicals and carcinogens. The saw dust used in MG comes from furniture manufacturers, and I have seen pieces of pressure treated lumber in MG soil myself. PT lumber is treated with arsenic.

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I had a huge gnat issue that came out of a MG soil bag. Food for thought guys...:twocents:

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

Most commercial potting mixes are fine without all of that extra work, and in my opinion bugs have more to do with local vendors and thier handling of the pallets of soil, than the carelessness of the maker. And the handling by the gardener after purchase should be thrown-in too, I guess.

IMHO, not worth getting anal about till there's an issue.

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Well said Rusty, It has more to do with the vendor Imo also. I have not had to many bug issues, except the last bag I have bought. And I believe it was because they had the last of stock outside at the end of summer, It was rainy and hot which imo makes for lots of bug problems with dirt, soil,landscape shit in general. Easy way to fix the gnat prob. put a lil layer of sand over the dirt man problem solved:thumbsup:


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Originally Posted by KillerBudG

So... Let me get this right, He died from using Mg on his plants huh.? Well I am truly sorry to hear that, And you should maybe look into a lawsuit about that than.! I have used dam near all the Mg Ferts on outside plants and no one I know that has smoked it died or even have gotten cancer. One almost died fro Heroine but that is another story.:thumbsup: I really doubt it was the Mg that gave him cancer, did the doctors tell ya this. Could you actual post some facts on this "theory" that you are stating.? Honestly if it was the Mg I wanna see some hardcore facts, Some kind of information relating Full body cancer to Miracle Grow:wtf:

I think you are just Bashing MG cause you probably screwed up your own grow with it by your stupidity:wtf: :D :thumbsup: Now be off with your lil Illrealevent statements you ignorant jackass.

And I am also using Mg potting soil right now, with time release ferts. And I was using the plant food powder which you mix up with your water. I have not had any problems with either product, As long as you wait atleast 4-5 weeks before a dose of nutes.

O and if the Mg really caused cancer I am sure they would be out of products to sell and bankrupt with plenty of lawsuits.

O and the metallic taste, give a good 2 weeks flush of straight water to leach out any remaining nute buildup in the soil. And The taste gets alot better with a Sloooow dry and a nice cure(3 weeks - 3 months) Imo.!

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He used it for over 30 yrs. No one knew he used it except me, so no, no one filed any suit. How do you do a wash with time release nutes in the bag of MG? Please enlighten me on this one? The more water you add, the more release happens which is taken up.

The metals are in the nutes, research it. One gets a huge build up in the plant. A plant is organic and retains all heavy metals. I suggest you sell you MG investments so you refrain from telling people they are jackasses.

And the cancer did come from the MG. Unless you claim eating vegetables & smoking pot causes cancer. PROVE THAT ONE HUH? He didn't smoke tobacco and was healthy as an ox. Till he bleed to death out his ears, nose, eyes and mouth. Just something to think about Mr. SCIENTIST.

i am currently starting a grow box using 2 bins one upside down on top of the other. My last grow was using MG and now i am going to start using MG organic mix because of the nute problem. Should i mix it with pearlite before i begin to plant my seedlings or should i wait and put pearlite when i see a PH difference???

Thanks in advance for any help and i will be sure to post my grow as soon as i start...

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Originally Posted by jamessr

He used it for over 30 yrs. No one knew he used it except me, so no, no one filed any suit. How do you do a wash with time release nutes in the bag of MG? Please enlighten me on this one? The more water you add, the more release happens which is taken up.

The metals are in the nutes, research it. One gets a huge build up in the plant. A plant is organic and retains all heavy metals. I suggest you sell you MG investments so you refrain from telling people they are jackasses.

And the cancer did come from the MG. Unless you claim eating vegetables & smoking pot causes cancer. PROVE THAT ONE HUH? He didn't smoke tobacco and was healthy as an ox. Till . Just something to think about Mr. SCIENTIST.

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Hmmm well lets see, My grandma has been using Mg on her garden for years. And never have had an issue throughout my family. Hmm Lets see time released shit, Your plants will use up pretty much all the nutes in sooner or later. I hate to say but the 3 month release is bullshit in its self. And you hit the nail dead on the head fool, Leach out your soil, more water more time released nute released. Keep flushing if you are that concerned but your plants will you most the nutes up. O and a friend of mine mother also uses the Mg in her gardens and I myself have had fruits and veggies from her year after year for at least the last 15 years and guess what no cancer or death so far. Either has my friend or his mother,father and sister.

And you talk about proving shit, Prove the fact your brother death was a direct result from using Mg, Instead of coming throwing bullshit knowledge you believe with no hard fact supporting you argument. Not all of your veggies and fruits, tobacco, Weed, you have consumed was straight 100% organic. And if you smoked any kind of weed off the street or from someone else I can say you have smoked or consumed some kinds of theses 'metals that you can not flush out your products'.

I am not saying i am a SCIENTIST either jackass but here is some shit that can cause all of your brothers symptoms â??lymphogenous disseminationâ?�-Nasal Cavity Cancer....Each year in the United States there are about 1000 new cases of nasal and paranasal sinus cancer leading to about 300 deaths annually from this disease

Since the nasal cavity is so close to the maxillary, ethmoid and sphenoid sinuses, these structures are called the â??paranasal sinusesâ?�, and disease of the nasal cavity can spread to them and vice versa. However, disease starting in the paranasal sinuses tends to be of different types, and is classified separately from nasal cavity diseases. Nasal cavity disease can also spread into the eye sockets by penetrating the thin bone of the â??orbitâ?� (eye socket) surrounding each eye. It can also spread backward to the nasopharynx and brain. As such, there are crucial nerves controlling vision, smell and facial movement (â??cranial nervesâ?�) which can be affected, or even the brain may be invaded by nasal cavity diseases. The skin sensation of the nose is conducted by cranial nerve #5, the large â??trigeminal nerveâ?�-- specifically by its â??maxillary divisionâ?�

There is a rich blood supply to the nose from the nasal, facial and palatine arteries, which branch off the large â??external carotidâ?� arteries which supply the face. The â??internal carotidâ?� arteries are deeper and the main source of blood for the brain. Blood is also drained by similarly named veins into the large â??jugular veinsâ?�, which return it to the heart. Thus the bloodstream can be a route for disease spread, called â??hematogenous disseminationâ?�. There is also a network of â??lymph channelsâ?� which
collect the tissue fluid (which has seeped out of blood vessels to bathe individual cells)

O and it is also noted.. go ask doctors some people bleed from eyes,ears,mouth,nose from having migraines.! O and if you have blood vessels burst in your brain the same will happen as well.

Now I am gonna leave this thread alone, Mods sorry for being so rude and disrespectful. But the bull shit needs to stop with all these people coming littering this site with their bullshit that has no facts or proof.

I repeat there is no problem growing with Mg products, But you have to pay a little more attention and care to you ladies. Most people...,Even a couple jackasses don't agree with Mg because they either had bad experiences with it or can not grow with it. But it does not mean it is not a good product, If you are willing to take your time and not heavily drench your plants wit the metals "Fert". They are products that say they are organics an are really not even 100% organic funny.

O and if I happen to die from my Mg veggies and fruits, And herb Ill make sure I am allowed to post 1 last message stating that It was the Mg and have hardcore fact stating my death was caused by MG.


Lmao at what you said... I know if I had someone as ignorant as you in my family I would make myself bleed from my ear eyes and mouth and die because your a Jackass. Now go read like a good lil lad and learn about the human body since nothing else can cause bleeding except MG.

Good day JACKASS. ...No better yet go bash another site with your B/s. And what you say is bullshit until you can prove Mg makes you bleed from the nose.ear,eyes, and mouth.


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Originally Posted by superskunk1

i am currently starting a grow box using 2 bins one upside down on top of the other. My last grow was using MG and now i am going to start using MG organic mix because of the nute problem. Should i mix it with pearlite before i begin to plant my seedlings or should i wait and put pearlite when i see a PH difference???

Thanks in advance for any help and i will be sure to post my grow as soon as i start...

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I would mix some per-lite in with you soil 25% per-lite 75% soil, And the organic Mg still has some ferts in it anyway. Read the entire backside of the package they have it written on tit some where. Then when you look at the Mg soil anyway the nutes in it is not really even that high which is funny I can't see how some people screw up with it. But what works for one person may not work for another person.

And bullshit said by one person is still bull shit that was said by that person.


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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

But isn't corecting a non-existant problem a tad anal?

My guess it's not the region, but more likely the gardener. .

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you are apparently frail and easily offended.however Trollish statements are not productive to open discussions so please keep your replies civil.

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

Most commercial mixes are fine, and are usually free from weeds and bugs. REGARDLESS OF REGION

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agreed ,almost always fine right out of the bag but generally you will have below average growth without modifying the mix . the original poster will have much better results if he adds perlite to his MG.

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

As with most things in life...if there is an issue, correct it. If there is no issue, likely there's no need to correct it.

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such as watering before your plants wilt?providing ventilation before your plants get to hot?checking for light leaks before switching to 12/12?removing clothing worn outside before entering your indoor garden?Hmmm....maybe i am being anal but i just don't like bugs in my grow room.an oz of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

thanks killerbudg i will post a thread about my grow asap, all help is gladly appreciated

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He used it for over 30 yrs.

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Originally Posted by seventhchild

maybe i am being anal ..

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My sentiments exactly. Your inability to see the situation as it is is laughable. (a good carpenter never blames his tools) I'm not the only gardener here with experience calling your bullshit. Get your facts straight or lurk-n-learn. But trying to blow smoke up our ass will end in your failure as a gardener and as a person in general. :jointsmile:

Frail...? Hardly.