Whose holy book tells them to kill all the homosexuals, and outlines rules on the proper management of slaves? The Bible's one of the more repugnant texts ever penned.Quote:
Originally Posted by apocolips31
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Whose holy book tells them to kill all the homosexuals, and outlines rules on the proper management of slaves? The Bible's one of the more repugnant texts ever penned.Quote:
Originally Posted by apocolips31
More just actions happen in name of Christianity then unjust.
You are going to have to re type this, I have no idea what you are talking about or what point you were trying to make. Ill wait....Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
The propagandists have done their job well. Every sexually expressive young lady who gets branded a whore, every gay forced to live in shame, every Islamic civilian killed for the protection of Christian nations, every STD acquired due to abstinence-only sex education, every struggling family that has to pay their tithe, every frustrated person who can't act on the desire due to the underlying abhorration of pleasure that permeates our society....this whole Judeo-Christian ethic has gone on long enough. As an obsolete form of oppression, it has to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by apocolips31
I'm still waiting for someone to acknowledge my point about how if the status quo were reversed, we'd be seeing a Christian Al-Qu'aeda equivalent. My point is that both Christianity and Islam are relatively okay in moderation but extremely dangerous if you get fundamentalism into play, and oppression of one's sphere of the world inevitably leads to violent fundamentalism. Fundamentalist Christianity would be much more violent and dangerous if they didn't have the cushiest way of life in the world, free to pillage the world.
Sorry I sparked some religious nerves. You're entitled to your beliefs, and I'm entitled to not believe in that. Fair and simple. To be honest I just am one of those people who needs to see to believe, thats my problem with religion.
But lets not point fingers at whose religion has killed more people. Many of them are non-accepting of other doctrines...exclusive.
And for whoever thinks nobody was killed in the name of Catholicism, don't forget the crusades. :cool:
I wasn't trying to point any fingers, really--it was just that someone was claiming that Christianity was good and Islam was bad, and I was trying to show that that's not inherently the case.
You need empiricle evidence for things, eh? I'm not like that at all--very spiritual guy, just not in any organized way. Bit of a pantheist, maybe.
And yes, let's not forget the crusades...what do you think the war on terror is? A new crusade with bigger bombs.
Perhaps you should read it slower. :jointsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by GrinKyle
To be honest my religion comments were aimed at those bickering over whose religion is better....a very other large problem i have with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by overgrowthegovt
I'm accepting of your spirituality, and glad you can make the distinction between your own spirituality and organized religion, where the problems happen..hahaha
I can't remember the name of what I am..there's a name for it...for someone who refuses to believe any of the options/organized religions. I know there is something there, i just refuse to label it God or Allah or Mohamed or whomever...cause to be honest thats ignorant...cause I don't know what it is. And people who run around shoving their god down the throat of others really piss me right off. Cause they don't know any more than anyone else..they just think they do.
But I am smart enough to know that the intricate nature of this world shows us that there is something larger up there. Its all the stories and details of these gods that are angering. I believe I'm entitled to have my own vision of what it is, and shouldn't be told i'll burn in hell for believing in something other than beatitudes.
Picture god as a large weed plant. Maybe then there won't be killing in the name of religion. Maybe ..we could all get along?? SHOCKER!!!
By the way Rusty, I like our dialogue. No matter what arguments I throw at you, you'd kick my ass in the greenhouse. I know this :thumbsup:
Lol...Just speaking my mind, trying to be unambiguous and have my conservative views not be twisted by peer pressure, fanatical teachings from a failed education system, or media bias. I've been around, I've seen a few things, I've served in the military, and I've seen the moral ineptitude spread thru our kids like wildfire, with it's roots in our educators wet dreams. Where else but America can an admitted terrorist, (Ayres) whose own girlfriend was killed by one of his bombs...be a 'respected' educator in Chicago, whose anti-government, anti-authority views are the educational standard set in stone on both coasts?Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshNugz
Hmmm...a tangent. <sigh> Bummer. :jointsmile:
Anyway, rarely do I avoid good discourse, but cut-n-paste laziness and dishonest ineptitude tends to piss me off. Propoganda might have it's place, but homey don't play that game, lol.
Ya get as old as I am...it's easier to distinguish good technique from bad technique, plus I've got decades experience with lawns, flower and herb gardens and houseplants. Still learning, but the transition to cannabis was inevitable and smooth, lol. But thanks. :thumbsup:
If I ruled the world, I would fix it like this:
1) Cut off all foreign economic aid...if we're broke, let em fend for themselves.
2) Withdraw all US troops from places we don't just take over and be done with it...(Korea for example)
3) Take over Cuba...(bring back cool vacation spot)
4) Take all money from #1, and spend it on buying up all the world's rain forests. This makes US world superpower, once we own all the oxygen supplies...lol
5) Cut off all trade with China, Japan. This will force US consumers to buy US products (They don't let US sell there freely)
6) Spend all the leftover money on researching rain forests for cancer cures, etc. (Now US can cure all diseases, making US superpower)
7) Now that #5 established, US has jobs making consumer products.
8) Once cutting off all foreign economic aid, & withdrawing all US troops, should be a lot of money for universal healthcare.
9) Now I've eliminated poverty in America with #5, #6, and #7.
10) Start underwater research so we have better maps of the planet. (We have better maps of Mars, than Earth's oceans)
11) Now that US controls rain forests, Cuba, and all cool vacation spots, and has destroyed China's & Japan's economy with trade embargos, US currency sound, economic outlook great, US sits back and lets Middle East fend for themselves......I'm bored with all this fighting, US is not world's police, and I'm tired of paying for all this crap.
I tend to be of Monroe Doctrine leanings.....:D