Louie XVI's girlfriend gave good head....:thumbsup:Quote:
LET THEM EAT CAKE! *chop *thud),
film at eleven
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Louie XVI's girlfriend gave good head....:thumbsup:Quote:
LET THEM EAT CAKE! *chop *thud),
film at eleven
the clothes thing is getting a little old. bottom line, it wasn't any or our money (unless you donated).
we should spend more time worrying about the issues at hand. like the TAXPAYER money the government used to bail all of these people that bought houses they couldn't afford or signed mortgages that were ridiculous in the rhetoric.
for everyone out there who thinks obama has a plan, for the economy and for taxes, wake up. he has a plan, sure. they all do to get elected. but they either change there mind onece they get elected or they can't get it passed in congress. you must realize the president doesn't have that much power. all of this must go through the congress. so he can have wonderful ideas. so what. the bottom line is they must be real world ideas. ones that will actualy work.
for all the mccain haters out there you need to show that man some respect. he spent 7 years in a cage so you can type your rants on this forum. not to mention he's beaten cancer like 4 times. he is a real american hero. i'm not saying that should make you voter for him but show him some respect. when you sign up for the military you basically sign your life away. you do what your told whether you like it or not. so don't argue about "i don't stand for that war, blah blah blah". bottom line is there are 17, 18, and 19+ year old kids dying everyday. and your congress voted for war. and we are worrying about $150,000. come one. what did barack ever do? get harrassed for being half black? whoa!
-shake
edit: and you guys do realize that if obama gets elected and blows it how much that is gonna set minorities in politics back? sure he's a slick talker, but so is the devil! (and i'm not calling him the devil.)
and you can get suits tailor made in thailand for $100 US.
Suits can be expensive, that is true. The most expensive piece of clothing I ever bought was a suit. I got it at Men's Wearhouse. It was about $300. Then I paid them to have it altered and also bought 3 shirts, 3 ties, a belt, a tie clip, and a pailr of shoes, so by the time I was out the door with a full outfit for three occaisions, I was up to about $700, which completely blew my mind. It seemed like too much, because I was paying for it with my own money, not donations. But my wife really liked it, so it was unavoidable at that point. That was 7 years ago, and I've had a few occaisions a year to wear it, so it amortizes out OK, maybe $30 per event.Quote:
Originally Posted by justanotherbozo
But that's just me out here in the "real America." If you are one of the "elite" in politics you really do have to look your best, and maybe the suits do cost $2000. I don't know. In the case of Obama and Biden, they pay for their own clothes, so I guess we could ask them how much. But since they do pay for it themselves, whose business is it anyway?
And I do have to concede the point that if the Palins cannot afford to look like a presidential family, then it makes sense that the RNC pay to make them presentable. Seems to me though that they could do it for less than $150,000, especially if their entire theme is cutting wasteful spending. I'm pretty sure that if anyone is spending $3000 every single day on clothes, there is some wasteful spending in there, and maybe a maverick costcutter should get in there and shake up those fatcats! You betcha!
the Hanoi Hilton was better than a "tiger cage" POW. Those poor souls never made it out alive. (example..."Deer Hunter")Quote:
for all the mccain haters out there you need to show that man some respect. he spent 7 years in a cage so you can type your rants on this forum.
The idea that if they were to buy cheaper clothes for the Palin family, they would be exposed or laughed at by the media is really funny. Here's why.
1. Politicians spin and here is how this could be spun. First off why not make it public before they buy the clothes that they are spending X amount of dollars, for X amount of reasons, and are auctioning them off after the race and donating the money to charity. Why that actually sounds like a nice way to race some money for the less fortunate.
2. Why not dress her in 300 dollar suits and when the media supposedly laughs and exposes her, respond by saying that this is a spending cut, which us repubs are all about. Now that would be a unique and i believe positive move for the republicans.
In conclusion i believe that they are full of shit on the donation part. Well yeah now they will, but the "plan all along", bullcoughsh*t.
In the hard to imagine chance that Sarah Palin is VP after this election, is she going to donate all these clothes and then wear her Gov. rags to meet with all the world leaders?
Maybe Sarah palin should do a stump speech from Neiman Marcus:
"I just love getting out here in the Real America and meeting with all the Real Americans, here at Neiman Marcus, away from all those elites. I love meeting with people like Joe the Tailor, Suzy the Stylist, and Pam the Personal Shopper.
I'm here to tell you that Barack Obama wants to tax the shirt off your back. You betcha! And with shirts going for $3,000 a pop, who can afford that?
Molly the Model and Patty the Pedicurist can't afford that. And neither can Harry the Haberdasher. That's because they are Real Americans, like hockey moms across the nation.
And you know the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull? $150,000 worth of couture!"
Makes one wonder just how many $1500 - $2000 Brooks Brothers and Savil Row suits Obama and Biden have in their closets then add all the $150 ties and $100 shirts.....don't forget the $1500/pr shoes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Palin favors "small town" culture and patriotism - here's her spin on the expenses.
Palin calls herself a frugal shopper when at home
40 minutes ago
WASHINGTON (AP) â?? Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, on whom the GOP has lavished $150,000 for designer clothes and beauty services, says her family shops frugally back home in Alaska and her favorite store is a consignment shop.
Purchases by the Republican National Committee at high-end department stores like Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus appeared in spending reports filed with the Federal Election Commission. They offered a stark contrast to Palin's image as a "hockey mom" who calls herself part of an average, middle-class American family.
"Those clothes are not my property. We had three days of using clothes that the RNC purchased," Palin told Fox News in an interview that aired Thursday night.
"If people knew how Todd and I and our kids shop so frugally. My favorite shop is a consignment shop in Anchorage, Alaska, called Out of the Closet. And my shoe store is called Shoe Fly in Juneau, Alaska. ... It's not, you know, Fifth Avenue-type of shopping."
In one shopping spree for Palin, the RNC spent $75,062 at Neiman Marcus in Minneapolis. It also spent $49,425 at Saks Fifth Avenue and $4,902 at Atelier, a stylish men's store, and paid $92 for a romper and matching hat with ears for her infant son, Trig, at Pacifier, a Minneapolis baby store.
The McCain campaign reported paying $13,200 in September to celebrity makeup artist Amy Strozzi, who works on the reality show "So You Think You Can Dance." She was paid $22,800 for the first two weeks of October, nearly double what the campaign paid McCain's foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann, according to a filing report.
Palin said the clothing purchased by the RNC would be returned or donated to charities.
The Associated Press: Palin calls herself a frugal shopper when at home
Clothes this expensive are sort of ridiculous for anyone, but if they pay for it themselves, who cares? Palin's problem is that was not her money and it was outrageously over-the-top waste for a "maverick reformer" whose whole schtick is cutting wasteful spending.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mississippi Steve
Palin stylist draws higher pay than policy adviser
By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press
Oct. 24, 2008
WASHINGTON â?? An acclaimed celebrity makeup artist for Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin collected more money from John McCain's campaign than his foreign policy adviser.
Amy Strozzi, who works on the reality show "So You Think You Can Dance" and has been Palin's traveling stylist, was paid $22,800, according to campaign finance reports for the first two weeks in October. In contrast, McCain's foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann, was paid $12,500, the report showed.
McCain's campaign said the payment covered a portion of her work in September and a portion of October. An earlier campaign finance report showed Strozzi was paid $13,200 for a portion of September.
In recent days, McCain and his running mate have tried to douse a furor over how their side spent their money. The Republican National Committee came under scrutiny after the party committee reported earlier this week that it had spent about $150,000 in September on wardrobe and cosmetics after Palin joined the GOP ticket.
In an interview with the Chicago Tribune and Fox News on Thursday, Palin said the clothes bought for the Republican National Convention were not worth $150,000 and said most have not left her campaign plane. She also said the family shops frugally.
"Those clothes are not my property. We had three days of using clothes that the RNC purchased," Palin told Fox News in an interview that aired Thursday night.
There was no evidence of additional clothing purchases in the most recent reports.
The Obama campaign has said it paid for hair and makeup costs associated with interviews or events, but neither the campaign nor the Democratic National Committee has paid for clothing.
The reports showed that Barack Obama and McCain enter the final days of the presidential campaign amid dwindling reserves, with Obama hindered by a sudden drop in fundraising and McCain restrained by spending limits.
Obama, the Democratic nominee, spent more than $105 million during the first two weeks of October, according to campaign finance reports. He reported raising only $36 million for his campaign during that period, about half the fundraising pace he enjoyed in September.
The Illinois senator shattered records and dumbfounded Republicans and Democrats by raising $150 million in September. Obama could still do better in October. His more recent report showed he had taken no share from a joint Obama-Democratic Party victory fund that raised about $27 million during the same October period.
But with the election 11 days away, both Obama and McCain, the Republican nominee, are operating with diminishing funds.
Obama had nearly $66 million in the bank at the end of the two-week period and debts of about $2.3 million. The Democratic National Committee and the joint victory fund reported combined cash on hand of $31 million.
McCain and the Republican National Committee reported having a combined $84 million as of last week to spend before Election Day.
The reports illustrated Obama's superior financial position going into October. He spent more than $80 million on media advertising. McCain, using his resources and the Republican National Committee's, spent a combined $38 million on ads.
McCain, who has accepted public financing for his campaign, is restricted in his spending. As of Oct. 15 he had more than $25 million in hand and more than $1 million in debts. The RNC, which has been helping his candidacy, had more than $59 million in the bank.
At McCain's spending rate of $1.5 million a day, the Arizona senator likely has only $12 million to spend in the next 11 days before the Nov. 4 election. He began the fall campaign in September with $84 million in public funds.
Obama is not participating in the public finance system, a strategy he used to advantage in September with a remarkable surge of donations. His October fundraising slowed, even though Democrats had hoped that presidential and vice presidential debates held during that period would have spurred additional giving.
Obama and his wife, Michelle, issued e-mail fundraising appeals on Thursday. The candidate warned supporters that "the margins of victory in crucial battleground states will be small."
Added his wife: "It all comes down to Friday morning when we make the last, tough choices about where we can fight â?? and how hard."
McCain's major expense was advertising â?? he spent more than $19 million from Oct. 1-15 on ads. The RNC contributed an extra $10 million to help with those media buys. It also spent $8.5 million on ads on behalf of McCain that were placed independently of his campaign.
McCain still has $21 million left over from the primary elections that he cannot use in the general but can distribute to Republican Party committees. In October, he doled out $8.5 million from that account to party committees in the battleground states of Missouri, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Wisconsin, Nevada, Ohio, North Carolina and Florida.
Obama contributed $14 million to Democratic committees in those states and more.