When you go to 12/12...then, you can rock&roll with both lights.
so...tell me ...what's the signal for YOU ...to go to 12/12 flowering cycle?...what's the plan?....you have to be ready in advance.
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When you go to 12/12...then, you can rock&roll with both lights.
so...tell me ...what's the signal for YOU ...to go to 12/12 flowering cycle?...what's the plan?....you have to be ready in advance.
Just some pics of random leaves, 1st two and the last one are from the AI's, the third one is from the MK. Then a pic of my intake blasting away on my MK's.:jointsmile:
Dutch, it makes much more sense that my issue would be the lights, since it's affecting the leaves at the top of the plant. I am switching them to one on one off now! Thanks again. Getting input from others is the best, I would have never convinced myself otherwise! LOL:D
Aw, well you know I have a plan!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Pimp
As far as the plants telling me they are ready, I am looking for alternating nodes and or pre-flowers, BUT, if they get to the point where they are nearing 24 inches tall, I will probably have to flip them regardless, if I don't then I may run out of room by the time they finish. I only have 8 ft ceilings, my table is yaye high, plus the pots, plus the plants, equals, I can't have anything much taller than a 4-5 foot plant is my guess. I will take a couple clones from each as well, so I won't be flowering until I do that! If possible, (not all the AI's are developing side shoots yet, and some may not I think the single cola plant is common in this strain, and I haven't topped any, I just wanted to let them go as naturally as possible this first run), then run the clones, eventually moving them into my hydrohut in another room under a set of t12s to root, and veg. I am thinking that I will be flowering shortly after taking clones, so once I get my males, I will go back and trash my male clones, then start vegging my females to get them ready to flower. Depending on how things go, make a couple moms from a few selected clones, and then throw the rest into flower. Then start fucking around with LST my second round of clones, keeping moms, taking more clones, and so on and so on. I would like to get 3 runs counting this one finished by June next year. Then hang it up for the summer, and start up again next fall. What do you think?:)
Wow, sorry I just reread that, and it is hard to read, forgive me, it's late, and my thoughts are kind of all over the place!:wtf:
if you want your heat way down you should use two cool tubes hooked up together with ducting with a can fan pulling the air right out of the bulb area then simply run ducting out of the room and throw a carbon filter on the end of it all (best if in the attic)to get those smells filtered ... thats how i did it keeps my temp at 78 day / 74 night
Yeah I know. Cool tubes would probably help a little more, I almost got them, but the price difference between those and the euros and the footprint swayed me. It's just a personal thing, but I don't think that they leave as good of a footprint as some other reflectors. I agree though, it would probably get my temps down a few more degrees. I did see someone's grow here where they were using them vertically and surrounding them, (yes they were running 4 1000 watts) that I loved! I would like to do that some day!
I forget that my house thermostat is at 75 sometimes, and the room I am using is consistently at 77 before I converted it, so running 3 to 5 degrees hotter, I should probably not bitch too much about I guess!:D
I stick to basic growing. I don't know how taking clones affects/starting time for 12/12..I assume two weeks later, than normal...(just a guess)(I don't do cloning)
I go to 12/12 when I...1. see preflowers...or ...2. 12-15 inches tall...(5 -8 nodes)...usually around 30 days.
After sex is known...I switch/transplant to 10 inch pots....or (whatever the largest size pots to be used are.)
Back on the subject of two lights for vegging?...another option might be to switch to 18/6. I know ...I'm confusing....:stoned:
If/when I get to clones, I think from what I have read also, 2 weeks is the normal recovery time, so when I get those then yep, 2 weeks later they wil go into flower. You think these could be ready to flower, they are tall, some of this is stretch though from earlier on when I had my lights much higher to compensate for the temps. No preflowers yet on any of them, but I was wondering if they could be flipped nowish, just out of curiosity, not that I am going to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Pimp
I was wondering, would playing with lights in veg affect the plants? Switching from 24 hours to 18/6 or even going from running 2 down to 1? I really have no idea? You wouldn't think so huh?
If I had vegging plants that had "heat or light stress" leaves...I would do something...right or wrong.Quote:
I was wondering, would playing with lights in veg affect the plants? Switching from 24 hours to 18/6 or even going from running 2 down to 1? I really have no idea? You wouldn't think so huh?
UV light from MH bulbs is very tricky. (just stick your hand under the light for 5 minutes...then you will feel their pain)
All right! Jeez you are making me feel guilty! :S2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Pimp
You are right, I am just going to stick with running one on one off and switch them every day. I know when I was doing that, I didn't have any of this going on, and they were still growing like weeds!
I will probably water again tomorrow or saturday if I can hold off till saturday night I will try to, but some of the pots are already getting a little light. I bet cutting down the light might save on water labor too! As it is now though, I watered last saturday, then again on tuesday night. So I am betting I will probably get to tomorrow. After that though it will be intresting to see if they can go an extra day or two beyond what they have been doing.
I forgot to mention to, as far as flowering in the previous conversation, I will transplant to 3 gallon pots a few weeks prior to flipping them, I hope that will be enough dirt to contain them through flower! Yikes, the big MK is already 15 inches tall! We'll see how that goes I guess, I suspect that may be one thing that throws a kink into this grow. I really hope not though.
p.s.
Thanks for the rating on this thread! I am flattered, that is very cool!:)