To the Ron Paul haters

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Originally Posted by keithm89

Personally i respect Ron Paul a great deal. He is extremely truthfull

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That's completely subjective. That's fine if you believe that, and that's what Ron Paul supporters also believe, but I don't. I find it laughable when Paul supporters suggest that he is the only "honest" candidate.

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Originally Posted by keithm89

, but personally I am very liberal, and think his ideas are wrong

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That makes sense to me. He is so extreme, it is a hoot when people that support liberal political policies also "think" that Ron Paul is a good candidate. He is the freaking anti-christ to liberals I would think? But I suspect that this is a high majority of a very special block of voters that is the most influencial in American Politcs, of course I am speakin of the conveted "Turd Vote".:D

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Originally Posted by keithm89

, That is why liberals hate him, because he is by far the most conservative candidate. Conservatives hate on him so much as a defense mechanism, because he shows them what being conservative is all about.

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Again yeah, I know why libs hate him, that should be obvious to anyone that knows anything about RuPaul.
But you are wrong about why conservatives hate him.
Let me help,
The Republican Party IS influenced greatly by the religious right. This is where the basis of the liberal attack comes from in regards to attacking christianity, or people that are religious.
RuPaul will never be accepted by this group for obvious reasons. That group, just like others are advocating "their" intrests. Since more people share "their" views they have what is known as a "majority" in terms of being organized and participating in the process. Case in point, the Shuckster is still in the race, and he believes in miracles! :DHe is in it and still has support solely from this group. That doesn't make him or any other Republicans "conservative" neccasarily. They obviously share more beliefs with conservatives, and many are also conservatives, but they are not default conservatives just because of their political party!
Ron Paul is an EXTREME conservative, really a fundamental constitutionalist. His views on abortion will never allow him to be a mainstream person in the republican party, I am a conservative, and I happen to agree with him that it should be left up to the states! However that isn't even an important issue to me, and I don't care if Roe vs. Wade remains or is overturned and returned to the states. Is it the right thing for the states to decide, yeah I think so, do I give a shit? No not really.:D I believe I have made the case for why I personally hate him, it has to do with his political tactics, and overall dishonesty with regard to soliciting votes from people he has no intention of advocating for. He sure does talk a lot of shit and swallow spit though! :jointsmile:And for most all of his supporters that's all they want, they just like to hear things. He's been around since the beginning of time, what is there to show for it?
Funny ass pictures on the internet?
Comic relief during the debates?
He is the WORLD KING CHAMPION of TEXT MESSAGING POLLS BY GOLLY!
I like the people that support him and understand his real philosophies, at least I know they won't be voting for ANY Democrats!! The really annoying people are the ones that just repeat and read but cannot comprehend and apply to real life, they just repeat catchy phrases and are also the people that will just "go vote for Obama?" WTF! How can you preach Ron Paul and then go vote for a socialist? I just wish that unlike angry nomad's siggie says,
"A vote for Ron Paul is a Vote for Legalization"
peopel would realize that
"A vote for Ron Paul IS a Vote that could contribute to ensuring the most extreme socialist do not take control of our government, and that voting for RuPaul is helping socialism gain a foothold! You might as well just right yourself in!"
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Originally Posted by keithm89

MIKE GRAVEL!!!

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You, counting me,from what I have read, are the 3rd person to mention him. I believe that he is honest, and would attempt everything within his power to decriminalize marijuana on the federal level. I also know that I will never ever vote for him because his other beliefs they make me puke! But, it's intresting that on a cannabis website with so many "young, educated, and informed" advocates for marijuana that are apparently ultra liberal, you would have heard more about him? I wonder how he doesn't just take all the "Turd Votes" away from Paul and Osama?:D

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Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH

I like the people that support him and understand his real philosophies, at least I know they won't be voting for ANY Democrats!!

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:thumbsup: Hey did you watch that video that i posted?

I think many people dislike him b/c they are scared of what will happen if big brother shrinks down. for example, shrinking/eliminating the dept of education. This would result in people paying for their school of choice, rather than it being taken from taxes. Some people will be stupid with their money and not allocate properly for school. This means some people will not be able to 'afford' school.
Some folks then attach a moral obligation to this policy. they conclude that by creating such an enviroment we are being mean/evil/uncompassonate...

I think that Ron Paul and his supporters wish to give you the freedom to fail if you so choose. 'Liberals' rather, would like the government to prevent you from failing

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Originally Posted by FlyGuyOU

I think many people dislike him b/c they are scared of what will happen if big brother shrinks down. for example, shrinking/eliminating the dept of education. This would result in people paying for their school of choice, rather than it being taken from taxes. Some people will be stupid with their money and not allocate properly for school. This means some people will not be able to 'afford' school.
Some folks then attach a moral obligation to this policy. they conclude that by creating such an enviroment we are being mean/evil/uncompassonate...

I think that Ron Paul and his supporters wish to give you the freedom to fail if you so choose. 'Liberals' rather, would like the government to prevent you from failing

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Look at the primary results, and you can tell America isn't ready for personal responsibility.

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Originally Posted by llama shack

Look at the primary results, and you can tell America isn't ready for personal responsibility.

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Ain't that the truth. Hopefully we can get a little more state responsibility and a little less Fed. It'd be a start.

I don't really care who its for, just let it be an educated decision
Vote! :stoned:

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Originally Posted by benvortec

:thumbsup: Hey did you watch that video that i posted?

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Yeah, I enjoy Glenn, used to listen to him all the time back home.
I agree, and I think that what they have been talking about hasn't been hidden from anyone. Many people including myself, you, and Ron Paul, all are aware of the problem. But just like you, and me, Ron Paul is just talking about it. And if you really understand what they are saying, then I would ask why would you support the candidate that will without a doubt increase government spending more than any other? I am not poking fun, it's really an honest question. As for Paul, I don't think he is doing anything special and don't think that he would. Just the fact that he talks about it isn't enough for me to support him. Glenn Beck is talking about it, he ain't running for president, and I haven't heard alot of fanatical support for him to run for president.:jointsmile:

I don't hate Ron Paul, but I do disagree with him on several things:

• Gold Standard --- I do not think it would work. There's not enough gold in the planet to serve as the currency for the volume of trade in the modern economy.
  
• Federal Reserve --- This is linked to the gold standard issue. I think we need a central bank to regulate the economy.
  
• Foreign Military Alliances --- I do not think we can withdraw from our foreign military commitments. Our alliances are a very important part of our security.
  
• De-regulation --- I am in favor of regulation related to public safety, consumer protection, worker protection, and pollution control.
  
• Environment --- I am in favor of strong environmental protections. I do not think environmental problems can be handled solely as private property issues.

These are the ones that come to mind right now, but I know I have other disagreements with Ron Paul. Libertarianism always sounds better in theory than it does in practice. When you get down to what Libertarian ideals mean when put into practice, they kind of suck.

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Originally Posted by FlyGuyOU

I think many people dislike him b/c they are scared of what will happen if big brother shrinks down. for example, shrinking/eliminating the dept of education. This would result in people paying for their school of choice, rather than it being taken from taxes. Some people will be stupid with their money and not allocate properly for school. This means some people will not be able to 'afford' school.
Some folks then attach a moral obligation to this policy. they conclude that by creating such an enviroment we are being mean/evil/uncompassonate...

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Like Charlie Daniels says in Long Haired Country Boy.."A rich man goes to college, and a poor man goes to work" I've been working every since I turned 16..No way could I afford to go to college..But I'm paying taxes for someone else to go..A lot of people don't have enough money to allocate extra to go to school..

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Originally Posted by Markass

Like Charlie Daniels says in Long Haired Country Boy.."A rich man goes to college, and a poor man goes to work" I've been working every since I turned 16..No way could I afford to go to college..But I'm paying taxes for someone else to go..A lot of people don't have enough money to allocate extra to go to school..

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Think of how much money you'd have if you only paid a fraction of the taxes you pay now. Cut income taxes, property taxes, the federal gas tax, taxes on your utilities, and phones, property taxes... plus there is all the behind the scenes stuff, government subsidies and tarriffs...
Tax freedom day: When we've made enough to pay our taxes - Mar. 28, 2007

That is a big chunk of change, and I personally believe that I can allocate those funds better than some government official. Furthermore I believe that YOU can better spend your money, regardless of your education level. but if you are going to blow it all on crack and speed tough shit.

'Presidential Secrets'--Former CIA Operative Chip Tatum Speaks

Chip's tortured body was reported to have washed up on a beach in Panama in early 2007.