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I am sorry to last 2 I did sult I was very testy bc my power had been out for last 2 hours i am sorry.
and i do agree that christians should not try to force there faith on anyone and especially not talk about how they will be damned to hell bc there is nothing more idiotic then to tell someone they are going to your hell when they dont believe in your God then your hell in turn does not exist and is therefor a mute point.
I also do agree that radical christains are among the most hypocritical people I know and even though I am a christian i do not share in there methods or all there beliefs.
sorry to triple post
Argument made by religious people that just isn't valid
cant agree with u more SB im a christian also and i see where u comin from man
Argument made by religious people that just isn't valid
Thing is, you assume we're all atheists for not agreeing with you, but I have yet to make a single assumption about anyones person. I accept that everyone must follow their own sense of truth, and even if that truth disagrees with my truth, I understand that we are both equally right to believe in what we do, because it's entierly based on perspective.
Myself I study Buddhism, and the Dhamma, teachings that literally tell me to not believe it if it doesn't seem right to me. At the same time it also talks about how desire, and how it breeds attachment to life. We must let go of our metapysical desires if we want to be free. To desire xxx years in paradise is the wrong motivation to be a moral person. This is my belief, atleast, and like I keep saying I appreciate that it is mine and mine alone. Others may have similar understandings, and others might disagree totally, but everyone has the right to their own freedom of thought. To deny people this by aggressive preaching is to deny them a chunk of their freedom as humans, EVEN IF YOU THINK YOU'RE SAVING THEIR SOULS.
Once a monk pestered Buddha about philosophy of cretion and existance. Buddha tol that monk that he was as a wounded man who would not recive medical tretment until he learned the name and location of man who harmedd him. Those who refused to live by peace beacause of differnces over why we are here and what put us here would die on the hospital bed beforethey got this useless information. What differnce does it make how we got here, greif suffering and pain would still exist.
That god will threaten to make this suffering eternal should I chose to base my life on the reduction of suffering seems abusurd to me. But hey, tommorw will bring a new perspective. I reserve my judgment of others, eternally. I make my opinions, but my no means give them the basis of absoloute truth.
-Cock :D
Argument made by religious people that just isn't valid
Atheists are as bad as Christians in the sense that they believe that God either exists or doesn't without substantial proof. Agnostics, like myself, admit that we're only human and can't possibly know if something as powerful as a God could exist. It's possible, but I'm not yet sure.
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Today's bible is largely based on the translations of the Church of England in the 1600's where King James ordered it translated. That's a problem because at the time, the church and the King wanted control of their people and were given the ability to pick and choose what went into the translation and what they wanted in it. How can one believe in a bible that was translated to fit the rule of a King, whose ultimate goal was to keep his people in check and fearful of him? I'm not sure I can believe in that too much. Give me an ancient historical form of it, and we'll talk when it's put together by an objective body of workers.
But don't get me wrong, I'm a believer of a higher power of some sort, call it God, Zuess or Allah, I don't care what, it's their somewhere. And that's based on the scientific process that says everything must have a beginning...well, if the world is just here based on the big bang or whatever, how did it start? How did it happen to be here, but of course that would go into a continuous loop, because how did the higher power get there?
I say let the world become tolerant, that's all I want, tolerance, but of course I'll be long dead before that happens.
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I say let the world become tolerant, that's all I want, tolerance, but of course I'll be long dead before that happens.
I completely agree I want the same and as a christian I believe that God would want the same as well, but I also thing that I will be long gone before we see that.
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Speaking to the historical fact that there was a man named Jesus who is the same Jesus in the bible,
Can you prove this? Can you prove that the man you even know to have died upon the cross for our sins was named Jesus?
I doubt Christians are even sure about this, dont some people believe his name was Isa or Yeshua lol - wasnt Jesus a Greek King?
Note that Joshua = Yoshua or Yahushua because there is no "J" sound in Hebrew. The letter "J" is only about 500 years old and isn't even found in the original 1611 King James version
The answer lies in the Greek/Latin corruption of the Messiah's original Hebrew name. Originally, the name of the Messiah was pronounced Yahushua. This is the Messiah's original name. When the Gentiles tried to transliterate His name into Greek, they came up with ihsoun or "Iesous". But originally, this word was from #3091 in the Hebrew which is . When Iesous was transliterated into Latin, it became "Iesus", which was then carried over into English it became our modern day "Jesus" when the letter "J" developed.
So even the name of Jesus is a muddled mystery most historians cant get their heads around.
And you want me to believe he even existed?
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you can choose to or not to believe in the religon or divinity but to use history as you defense and then deny history is true is pretty much the definition of ignorance
Not true.
History is not a faith which must be either entirely accepted or entirely dismissed, as i have stated before, there are a number of historical events which have a profound deal of evidence which i support, i do not however support the mythological aspects to certain civilisations which cannot no matter how hard you believe be proven to have ever had existed (by the way im still waiting for your evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ).
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and considering that it is said that Jesus used to use cannabis in is healings and other religous acts performed I am shocked that so many atheiests are on hear
Can you prove that Jesus used cannabis?
(And dont pull a subjective verse from the Bible because thats not evidence, its as good as me asking for proof of jack falling down his beanstalk - and you pulling out a kids fantasy nursery book as evidence)
If jesus had mystical powers from God then why on earth did he need to use EARTHLY medicine to aid in his healing processes?
I really dont get you.
You think because APPARENTLY jesus used cannabis that users of cannabis should not come on internet forums and talk about it - that to use cannabis you must firstly accept jesus as your personal saviour.
SD651552 or whatever... you talk utter nonsense
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the high depression suicide and confrontational acts of athiests
And why dont we compare the figure to the millions upon millons of children, men & women killed in the name of God through the hundreds upon thousends of religious wars throughout the entire history of religion...
Im sure we've lost count now.
I mean if i stood in the middle of a gathering of atheists or in a village of atheists and shouted God exists and lives etc etc - what kind of reaction do you believe i will recieve?
Yet what if i stood in front of a mosque in the middle of a highly muslim populated area and shouted Allah is dead!
In which scenario do you think I would face execution?
I think you know the answer.
And then after saying that he says....
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I do defend my beliefs to the death
Oh i better get out of your way before you chop my head off aswel lol.
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the only ignorant thing is deny the historical facts
I DO NOT DENY HISTORICAL FACT YET THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS IS NOT HISTORICAL FACT
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I have no problem with athiest until they begin to atack me and my faith with ignorance.
I am asking you to provide evidence for the existence of Jesus, how on earth is this ignorant?
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Thing is, you assume we're all atheists for not agreeing with you, but I have yet to make a single assumption about anyones person.
I agree with this aswel, SD61515 you only assume I am an atheist is that not real ignorance?
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Once a monk pestered Buddha about philosophy of cretion and existance. Buddha tol that monk that he was as a wounded man who would not recive medical tretment until he learned the name and location of man who harmedd him. Those who refused to live by peace beacause of differnces over why we are here and what put us here would die on the hospital bed beforethey got this useless information. What differnce does it make how we got here, greif suffering and pain would still exist.
Grief pain and suffering will always be here yes, but when a race of indoctrinated people roam the earth killing anything that doesnt submit to them in the name of God with little or any proof that what they speak of is correct, something has to be done about it, these doctrines have to be contained and controlled and proven that the contents is clearly misunderstood if anything completley wrong!
Afterall, we dont want primitive minds pushing 21st century red buttons now do we?
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Atheists are as bad as Christians in the sense that they believe that God either exists or doesn't without substantial proof. Agnostics, like myself
I agree entirely yet the ability to question the beliefs which are shown to you is a concept of the human brain which should never be taken for granted, id ask people to question everything.
But its a question of odds, what makes more sense to you?
And sd6515 im stil waiting for the evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ.
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if the world is just here based on the big bang or whatever, how did it start? How did it happen to be here, but of course that would go into a continuous loop, because how did the higher power get there?
Im guessing it took you around 15 minutes to enter the site, look around for a bit and type that message, I hope you know that in that time the universe expanded an extra 162 million miles.
If you think that our planet and solar system are amazing and unique then, although we cant show you life on other plants we can show you millions upon millions upon millions of stars, and remember almost every star you see when you look outside is within our galaxy.
The nearest star from us is something like 4 light years away, thats 4 x 6 trillion miles away.
Our tiny galaxy alone is around 100,000 x 6 TRILLION miles accross
You would have to travel at around 186,000 MILES PER SECOND for 100,000 years to get from one end of our galaxy to the other.
The galaxy next door to ours is 2 Million light years away, thats 2 million x 6 trillion miles away.
Yes you would have to travel at a rate of around 186,000 miles per second for 2 MILLION YEARS to reach the Galaxy NEXT DOOR to ours.
And I would say at an underestimate there are around 800 BILLION galaxies in this universe.
The numbers are beyond anyones comprehension.
And remember what ive talked of is nothing, times it by a billion and your not even close when you begin to think about what this space is expanding into - and how far the 4th universe is from this pale blue dot you call earth, Gods earth.
Yet do you really think that God would have created all of this over that vast amount of space and time...
So that Jesus and Muhammed could mess about in the Dessert?
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Do you really think I am going to waste any more of my time talking to you you are a sad sad little man who is commiting the very same acts he claims to hate and just as a side note you can read were you missed the fact were you mentioned you were an athiest I did not assume anything,and for some reason you seem to have a problem with religion and christanity when ive said over and over that i do not force my religion on others and hate that people do and you still seem to not be able to grasp that I dont care what you believe i dont care what you say and I certainly dont care to converse with you being that you even quote me and others the way you try to support you other claims out of context. and as to this:
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And sd6515 im stil waiting for the evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ.
I already said 3 times now I have absolutely no reason to converse with you and the evidence is there and if you really cared you could find it and then discredit it yourself because regardless of what is brought to you your ignorant a*s will deny it and just so this doesnt happen again your ignorance has NOTHING to do with your belief or nonbelief in God or Jesus. Why should i waste my time sighting my sources for you to reject them before you even read them. now go F**k the horse you rode in on. The last thing I need is to continue to converse with someone so full of hate.
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Sorry to all for my launguage and tone in that last post but this has just gotten a little to ridiculous for me so it will be my last in here, I can not stand this one ignorant person and by the way yes I as well as most christian do know that his name was yeshua, Jesus Christ, where "Christ" is a title derived from the Greek christós, meaning the "Anointed One," which corresponds to the Hebrew-derived "Messiah". The name "Jesus" is an Anglicization of the Greek Ίησους (Iēsous), itself a Hellenization of the Hebrew יהושע (Yehoshua) or Hebrew-Aramaic ישוע (Yeshua), meaning "YHWH is salvation".
and here is a link for a ton of websites for you to discredit fallen.
Argument made by religious people that just isn't valid
