HPS LIGHT FOR VEGGING????

Once again, I will step in here and clear up a couple misconceptions.
Misconception #1 "If you use fluorescents for flower, you must use the expensive 'red' grow bulbs from the hydro store"...
Bullshit. You can grow just as well using compact fluorescent bulbs from MallWart or Home DePot.
Misconception #1-a "You must use warm white bulbs for flowering in a CFL grow".
Not necessarily. Your plant prefers a particular spectrum of light, but many combinations of colors from within that spectrum will make your plant grow. Ideally, you want as many colors as possible represented in your bulb choice. This is why so many of us use HPS, fluorescents, and MH together during flower.
So, if spectrum was the only consideration, you would want several bulbs of each color temperature (warm white, soft white, cool white, and daylight).
But spectrum isn't the only consideration. MUCH more important, is 'LUX'.
I won't bore you with math, but basically, LUX measures the intensity of lumens.
CFL's are low lux.
If you are using CFL's, you are already compromising many things. In the compromise between lux and spectrum, your plant will much prefer getting more lumens over more red in the spectrum it receives.
The CFL's that give the most LUX, are daylight bulbs.
The CFL's that give the widest spectrum, are daylight bulbs.
The CFL's that give the least LUX, are the expensive ones from the grow store.

If I was going to flower with less than 300W (actual) of CFL's, I would use daylight bulbs all the way through.
I would use as many as possible (ie. more lower wattage bulbs, vs. less higher wattage bulbs), and I would keep them as close to the plant as possible.
If I was using more than 300W, I might start thinking about adding one or two warm white bulbs.

well my friend is using a 400 watt hps for vegging 10 black dominas right now and there bushy as ive ever seen that strain so yes you can veg with hps go to hightimes they have some good answers also and all those people are pros at growing gardens indoor and outdoor that were i got my info for a small outdoor garden i did year or two ago i should mention the space he is using is 8 square feet and 6 foot tall and his plants like i said are good and growing viguoresly ill try and putt up some pics if he doesnt mind

400w is ideal for that space. And again, the plant cares more about light levels than about spectrum.
If you vent your hoods, and put your light close enough to the plants, HPS can veg just as well as MH or fluorescent.

thankyou this is why i started this thread is so i can hear everyone opinion on hps for vegging

and i guess using daylight bulbs should be better in flowering then warm bulbs i could also use both justa make sure

my box does have great airflow for its size!!! so heat will not be an issue my box dont even see past 80 degreese and at night it goes to atleast 60! its 78 in the day and 65 at night to be exact

really dosent matter what light i use now its all fucking useless

well just ran into a BIG problem where we have are grow box whitch is my friends house he cant have it there anymore hes got someone moving in has to get rid of the box should we just put these babies out side really have no choice!!! so im probley gonna just let nature take its corse!!!!!!!!! sorry and thanx for all the info i guess ill have to take up outdoor growing!!!

it kinda sucks though i think growing indoors gives better bud and safer but outdoors is fine if you know a good place!

sorry about that. you cant use your own place?

wel i have kids 2 of them and i get to paranoid to have anything here but i have good news my friend called me and told me the person isnt moving in so that GREAT life saver!!!!

i dont like growing out side i have done one plant in the last two summers and only used fert stcks aint that some shit?

anyways two guys up north havent seen you in a while what you been up to? still have any grows going on? thats funny cause were to guys up north also!

i finally started a new grow after i got attacked by hermi's! we are doing scrog 3 plants just to see how it works and hoping for god for a female!!!!

if no females and get hermi again ill probley keep going with it ill just do sog next time!!!

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Originally Posted by smokinbuds21

it kinda sucks though i think growing indoors gives better bud

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Not true. It's just easier to control, and get bigger buds and more resin (the good stuff). But the high will be the same on the same strain, indoors or out.

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Originally Posted by psteve

Once again, I will step in here and clear up a couple misconceptions.
Misconception #1 "If you use fluorescents for flower, you must use the expensive 'red' grow bulbs from the hydro store"...
Bullshit. You can grow just as well using compact fluorescent bulbs from MallWart or Home DePot.

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OK, OK, you are technically right. When yield is concerned, you can get whatever yield you want (to the plant's capability) on whatever light you want, provided you use enough of them. You would need a shitload of the cheapo bulbs to equal the yield of a couple of the expensive bulbs. As far as total cost after considering electricity for both the bulbs and the ventilation required for each, I don't know for sure which is better, but I have to assume it would be the one with the fewer bulbs.

Is watts watts? Does 400 watts of the good bulbs equal 400 watts of the cheapo ones? Not sure, but I think the good ones are geared to flowering and have more of the proper light spectrums.

Not sure, not sure. I'm an HID guy, especially for flowering.

like i said before no hids hear to hot for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes and no if it says 100 watts or 400 watts its true they cant sell false info makes sence dont it!!!!!!

and outdoor takes to long for me!