income taxes are a fraud.

"The government should create, issue and circulate all the currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the government and the buying power of consumers..... The privilege of creating and issuing money is not only the supreme prerogative of Government, but it is the Government's greatest creative opportunity. By the adoption of these principles, the long-felt want for a uniform medium will be satisfied. The taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest, discounts and exchanges. The financing of all public enterprises, the maintenance of stable government and ordered progress, and the conduct of the Treasury will become matters of practical administration. The people can and will be furnished with a currency as safe as their own government. Money will cease to be the master and become the servant of humanity. Democracy will rise superior to the money power." -*Lincoln Abraham Senate document 23, Page 91. 1865

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

I'll ignore that little comment this one time and advise you to read this:
Budget of the United States Government, FY 2008

Go through the ENTIRE thing and tell me where the money would come from.

$647.2 billion for national defense
Defense Analysis Bulletin No. 2 - Experts give poor grades to expected defense budget proposal

U.S. Department of Transportation...$40 Billion
Budget in Brief - FY 2008

Social Security - $544 billion
Medicare - $325 billion
Medicaid - $186 billion
All other mandatory programs - $357 billion. These programs include Food Stamps, Unemployment Compensation, Child Nutrition, Child Tax Credits, Supplemental Security for the blind and disabled, Student Loans, and Retirement / Disability programs for Civil Servants, the Coast Guard and the Military
US Federal Budget - How the FY 2008 Social Security Budget and Medicare Budget Affects the US Economy

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

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lol....your information is from whitehouse.gov

wake up buddy

wait so you can just not pay income tax and you wont get arrested or whats up with that.

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Originally Posted by jaGerbom

wait so you can just not pay income tax and you wont get arrested or whats up with that.

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there is no law that requires you to pay a federal income tax. and if you do file a 1040 technically you are waiving your 5th amendment rights. the 16th amendment was never ratified by congress so there for the law is not in the books. and the supreme court even ruled that the 16th amendment gave the government no new taxing power. which means if you werent taxable before the 16th then you arent taxable after the 16th.

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Originally Posted by khronik

Yes, but these arguments have not held up in court. Since the judicial system interprets the law, and has found these arguments insubstantial, that means the 16th amendment is valid.

But yeah, Ron Paul for prez. Too bad the guys in charge won't let him into debates. Assholes.

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you are talking about the lower courts who are supposed to be in line with the supreme court but they are not. the supreme court ruled that the 16th amendment was unconstitutional and that it gave the government no new taxing power because of that. so basically if you werent taxable before the 16th then you werent taxable after the 16th.

by the way this dont belong in the conspiracy forum it belongs in the truth forum. or the politics forum that would work 2

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Originally Posted by D.Boone

by the way this dont belong in the conspiracy forum it belongs in the truth forum. or the politics forum that would work 2

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All of these threads from three different forums have been merged here.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by jaGerbom

wait so you can just not pay income tax and you wont get arrested or whats up with that.

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LMAO! Give it a try.....when your property is seized and your in the slam don't say I didn't warn ya.

Have a good one!:s4:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

LMAO! Give it a try.....when your property is seized and your in the slam don't say I didn't warn ya.

Have a good one!:s4:

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actually you are more likely to be audited even if you do pay. the irs tends to pick on the poor and innocent. when it comes to arresting non payers they often times go after people who are famous or rich. cause that way they can repossess alot more stuff. and there are many examples of that. like ive said b4 if you just watch that movie you can see several accounts of the irs going after innocent non payers and the non payer won their trials. and then actual interviews from former irs agents who quit the irs because they found out that their agency that they worked for was lying to the american people. so please just watch the movie and dont be so ignorant p4b.

the fact is this country right now is being run by people who only have their express financial interests in mind. they dont want the american people to have a voice. they want us to be silent while they run every thing behind the scenes. thats why they want to create an american union, and give us all national ids with radio transmitters embedded in them. its all just then next step then they will inject us with computer chips so they can track our every movements. the government is not working in the peoples best interests anymore they arent even working within the constitution. we the people have the power in this country not those with the money.