Should the U.S. have began started the current war in Iraq

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Originally Posted by koshea

um, i dont know where you live but in my american troops arent sent to war in the name of god and the christian way of life...that would be the islamic extremests killing thousands of innocent americans in the name of allah and the muslum way of life

thankyou

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They're sent in the name of money and power..... Oops, I just opened up a can of worms.... :eek:

Unbelievable naivety and arrogance.
yep on your part i agree

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Firstly I'm not a pacifist of any description (I like fighting a lot)

well i dont,but defending ones self and others from Bully ass mofo's is a must.


and I don't hate Americans in general
your a liar.i think you hate everything it stands for,EVERYTHING.

, just those ignorant of the facts enough to believe that the troops are in Iraq to "liberate" the Iraqi people.

it aint for oil ya dum ass

I don't care about WMD ,
I don't care about India ,
the title of the thread should be enough of a clue as to what this debate is about.
The US ""GOVERMENT"" and their ""COMMERCIAL BACKERS"" are the true benificiaries of the war in Iraq ,

and the NEW IRAQ with elections lets not forget oh yea no more dictator saddam to kill anyone who says he is bad
least i can say george bush sucks and not have nobody come drag me out and shoot me for it.,its called freedom,check into it

war is very lucrative for weapons manufacturers and the people charged with rebuilding the war torn area ,
and that is to mean.,is the ONLY reason they do it ?
hahhaaahaa
you cant believe that shit can you.
now im sure some companies enjoy huge profits at war times and love it
but to think THat alone is reason why usa ;s sons and duaghters are dying for it is plain to know you dont know the USA at all.

so your saying ,they should pay wages to people who work making the stuff how,?


Bush had backers during his election campaign who have a vested interest in the contracts to fix up what US forces blew the fuck out of.
so we should just leave it there blew the fuck up,Ok>

US forces had no right to invade any country ,

make that the right to invade ,any thats a threat to it.
as any nation would.
and as for the war on terror and the hunt for those who harbour terrorists how about starting with Isreal.
sure but that take palastine off the map period too so U really think the usa gonna start on such a nation that stands surrounded by enimies
she we protect that place,ONLY becuase it has so many wanting it to fall due to religious reasons,
we (the usa)protect alot of folks

The pepsi and bigmac comment was simply a reference to corporate America numbnuts not a literal statement.

yea like the iwo-jima sign huh ?

And of course the US taxpayer is footing the bill

as we always have will and will do

while your politicians send even more brainwashed kids
fuck you for every soldier out there

to their death in the name of God (some are religious not many)

i think it will say marine us army or US on his uniform not GOD"S ARMY

and the christian way of life. hahahahaa thats just so biased
and a chance and freedom in some form is how i see it

Sounds to me like you aren't really much use for anything but cannon fodder!

see even you think certain types of people are so invaluable that you would not care see them fucked up by being used in meat grinder battles
real humane of ya there cat


Go for it Rambo !!! LMAO

you would shit if he did and one day showed up your house wouldnt ya.,

Iraq elections to enable a US puppet goverment to be set up.
Explain how Iraq was singled out as a direct threat when more advanced "enemies" (China,Korea) are left alone.
Isreali intelligence was used to justify the war (WMD ready in 45 minutes) and has since proven the term military intelligence is a true oxymoron.
Define terrorist.
Saudi Arabia harbours terrorists but I can't see any troops heading there.
Once again I will point out I don't like or dislike anyone I don't personaly know.
The GOVERMENT of the USA is my bugbear.
The GOVERMENT that refuses to sign the Kyoto agreement.
The GOVERMENT that created the Taliban as a world force (CIA trained).
The GOVERMENT that helped Pinochet .
The GOVERMENT that is the most hypocritical in the world.
The GOVERMENT with the dual goal of creating a foothold for US interests in the middle east and setting up a sympathetic (to the US) Iraqi leader to smooth the way for further commercial deals.

Anyone capable of thinking for themselves would see through the bull.
You mean FREEDOM as in the freedom from being bullied into living as the US decides?

PS I don't really give a fuck who I upset the truth is the only thing I'm interested in , If I hate all things american why is my favourite singer from Detroit?
If I hate all things american why is my favourite actor from Neptune, New Jersey?
If I hate all things american why do I find someone from Worcester, Massachusetts, USA so funny.

Alice Cooper.
Jack Nicholson.
Dennis Leary.

That plus the fact that I have freinds in Chicago , Florida and Ohio kind of fucks up your theory that I lied about my feelings towards Americans in general.
Americans like yourself do make me feel for the ones who have to share a country with you.

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Originally Posted by psychocat

PS I don't really give a fuck who I upset the truth is the only thing I'm interested in , If I hate all things american why is my favourite singer from Detroit?
If I hate all things american why is my favourite actor from Neptune, New Jersey?
If I hate all things american why do I find someone from Worcester, Massachusetts, USA so funny.

Alice Cooper.
Jack Nicholson.
Dennis Leary.

That plus the fact that I have freinds in Chicago , Florida and Ohio kind of fucks up your theory that I lied about my feelings towards Americans in general.
Americans like yourself do make me feel for the ones who have to share a country with you.

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im from worcester massachusettes :)

Just for the record the American government attacked its own buildings. How can a plane 130ft (approx.) in length and 85ft wide (approx.) fit into a hole in the side of the pentagon 65ft across and i forget how tall and leave no wreckage no engines nothing anywhere. And then if you look closely when the planes went into the towers you can see from 4 different angles on the south tower moments before the plane went in flashes of light in the cockpit and on with the north tower just before the plane went in is a flash of light in the cockpit. The plane that went in the south tower was no commuter plane, it was a military plane of some sort. If you look at the belly of the plane there is something long attached and if you look at an ordinary 767 or whatever it was the belly is smooth. look and see for yourself. And then if you listen to audio of when the towers were about to collapse there are explosions in and around the bulidings. see and listen for yourself. And when the towers were going down if you also listen there are explosions on each floor as they collapse. That doesnt usually happen when a large building goes down. And in the pentagon again, wernt the planes meant to have intense heat say the US government and news, So why is there a book on a stool (opened) on the edge of one of the rooms where the building collapsed and no pages are burnt, gone black or nothing and there is a computer on a desk undisturbed inches away from where the building colapsed. I dont know why but thats a bit odd. And the fuel in the plane that went into the pentagon would be thought of as toxic and the soil would have had to be removed. I dint ever see any special people for removing shit like that around. And out of all the cameras on and around the pentagon there is no footage of any noise, plane anything. But a service station not far away had a camera straight at the place where the plane went in and then a few hours later some FBI or whatever people went to the station and confiscated the tape for unknown reasons. And just randomly, why when Saddam challenged Bush to a live debate on TV Bush declined. I could go on...

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Originally Posted by BuD MaN

Just for the record the American government attacked its own buildings. How can a plane 130ft (approx.) in length and 85ft wide (approx.) fit into a hole in the side of the pentagon 65ft across and i forget how tall and leave no wreckage no engines nothing anywhere. And then if you look closely when the planes went into the towers you can see from 4 different angles on the south tower moments before the plane went in flashes of light in the cockpit and on with the north tower just before the plane went in is a flash of light in the cockpit. The plane that went in the south tower was no commuter plane, it was a military plane of some sort. If you look at the belly of the plane there is something long attached and if you look at an ordinary 767 or whatever it was the belly is smooth. look and see for yourself. And then if you listen to audio of when the towers were about to collapse there are explosions in and around the bulidings. see and listen for yourself. And when the towers were going down if you also listen there are explosions on each floor as they collapse. That doesnt usually happen when a large building goes down. And in the pentagon again, wernt the planes meant to have intense heat say the US government and news, So why is there a book on a stool (opened) on the edge of one of the rooms where the building collapsed and no pages are burnt, gone black or nothing and there is a computer on a desk undisturbed inches away from where the building colapsed. I dont know why but thats a bit odd. And the fuel in the plane that went into the pentagon would be thought of as toxic and the soil would have had to be removed. I dint ever see any special people for removing shit like that around. And out of all the cameras on and around the pentagon there is no footage of any noise, plane anything. But a service station not far away had a camera straight at the place where the plane went in and then a few hours later some FBI or whatever people went to the station and confiscated the tape for unknown reasons. And just randomly, why when Saddam challenged Bush to a live debate on TV Bush declined. I could go on...

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so wheres are the missing planes, any way a old teachers of mines wife died on one of the planes that hit the towers. i think its irresponible for you to write such bull-shit. no shit the fbi is going to confiscate the tapes from the pentagon, its called evidence collection, if you wanna see them so bad request them from the feds using the freedom of infomation act. i remembered your only 15 so ill forgive you its natural for you to believe crazy shit, but it does give sane liberals like me a bad name.

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Originally Posted by BuD MaN

Just for the record the American government attacked its own buildings. How can a plane 130ft (approx.) in length and 85ft wide (approx.) fit into a hole in the side of the pentagon 65ft across and i forget how tall and leave no wreckage no engines nothing anywhere. And then if you look closely when the planes went into the towers you can see from 4 different angles on the south tower moments before the plane went in flashes of light in the cockpit and on with the north tower just before the plane went in is a flash of light in the cockpit. The plane that went in the south tower was no commuter plane, it was a military plane of some sort. If you look at the belly of the plane there is something long attached and if you look at an ordinary 767 or whatever it was the belly is smooth. look and see for yourself. And then if you listen to audio of when the towers were about to collapse there are explosions in and around the bulidings. see and listen for yourself. And when the towers were going down if you also listen there are explosions on each floor as they collapse. That doesnt usually happen when a large building goes down. And in the pentagon again, wernt the planes meant to have intense heat say the US government and news, So why is there a book on a stool (opened) on the edge of one of the rooms where the building collapsed and no pages are burnt, gone black or nothing and there is a computer on a desk undisturbed inches away from where the building colapsed. I dont know why but thats a bit odd. And the fuel in the plane that went into the pentagon would be thought of as toxic and the soil would have had to be removed. I dint ever see any special people for removing shit like that around. And out of all the cameras on and around the pentagon there is no footage of any noise, plane anything. But a service station not far away had a camera straight at the place where the plane went in and then a few hours later some FBI or whatever people went to the station and confiscated the tape for unknown reasons. And just randomly, why when Saddam challenged Bush to a live debate on TV Bush declined. I could go on...

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i got a pimple on my ass older than him
with more sense too.

i hope the fuck his parents find out his 15 yr old punk ass is here spouting shit and take his net away
talking shit like that

and as for crazycat you just spout off all that crap you want im done even trying tell your boo hoo'n ass anything cuase america is bad and your just never wrong are ya
so fuck all you anti american dickheads
i hate gw and any one of you assholes that make me defend him
he didnt fly no fucking plane or have one flown into no fucking pentagon
anyone dum enough to think the usa is behind that shit
needs shot for humanity 's sake,they are dangerous to us all ,pure moron's
fuck yaw rumor creating/ passing bastards,
cant get any sense out of your defected thinking budBOY
change ya name to budpunk
its sure dont need Man in it
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exits after farting loudly and says to you " smell that on the way to hell"

I dont think we should of gone over there except to drop the fucking bomb on them get it all over with france too there a bunch of basters if is wasnt for USA they would be speaking german matter of fact most county would be fucked if it wasnt for USA

And If you disagree then fuck you look at your history books

Even tho I agree that we saved their asses, germany couldn't have held that much land for too long, and Hitler's government would have failed by now.