Alrighty, that sounds fine. Misunderstood what you said about his work, and if you wanna start a new thread, I'll find it.
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Alrighty, that sounds fine. Misunderstood what you said about his work, and if you wanna start a new thread, I'll find it.
man thats totaly your job. (making thread)
i've got the hard one of finding all my citations
ok well i just found were i stored all my GMO info on my computer. So my job just got easy. i've made the thread. LETS DO IT!!!
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthrea...60#post1172760
The thread is officially dead. But hey, I thought I’d post this link anyways.
Here is some interesting information about how Exxon funds so many of the climate change deniers. As well as much of the research they base their “facts” on
Enjoy
www.exxonsecrets.org
I am not understanding Bob's point with the GM foods...
I can tell you this much whatever David Suzuki says IS GOLD I will not listen to anyone that contradicts anything this man says. :)
Have you brought up the problem of the modifieds destroying the natural lines yet? I went back to your first thread and ending up going in circles LOL
I read a story about how if we ever get a disease in bananas nearly all the bananas on earth will be wiped out because we only grow one type now and have not nutured the other ones. Each type is more resistant to different problems, frost, drought, etc..but now we just have the one type so everyone better hope it stays healthy.
harris I see you go to the exxonsecrets site
do you go to this one its really good.
http://www.corpwatch.org/
I think what is the problem is that Bob has seen a lot of corporate propaganda. I've seen the ad's Monsanto and other play in the USA and what their funded representatives say and it is very troubling. The biggest problem is that In the USA you can spread blatant lies on TV, Wow?Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueCat
This one woman in some state started a campaign to label GM ingredients in foods. She had a budget of a few thousand dollars. Unfortunately she was defeated by Monsanto??s Multi-million dollar campaign.
I live in eastern Arizona and we've had TONS of snow.. It's still snowing right now actually. Crazy shit
No snow in Ohio yet??
I'm in east-central AZ and we're having record breaking cold! But at least it's sunny today, damn cold but barely a cloud in the sky which means it's going to be another cold night. And another cozy night sleeping in front of the fireplace.
The movie waterworld isnt such a far stretch,is it? And just think,we dont even have gills.:( :confused: :eek: :what: :what:
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Carl Sagan
US astronomer & popularizer of astronomy (1934 - 1996)
i like that
This is how I spent the last couple days....making calls and sending emails...At times you think it is a waste of time then you get an email like this one...the bill you want to pass passes and it feels nice ;)
January 19, 2007
Dear BlueCat, <--name changed :D
We won! Thanks to your emails and phone calls, we swamped the Senate and they passed a strong lobbying and ethics reform bill, S. 1, in a 96-2 landslide.
Other good news: Justice was served today when ex-Rep. Bob Ney (R-Ohio) was sentenced to 30 months in jail. I guess that free golf trip to Scotland wasn't so free.
Again, thank you! Daniel De Bonis Online Organizer Public Citizen's Congress Watch
P.S. If you are still fired up, write a quick email to your senators thanking them for passing S. 1. Click here: http://action.citizen.org/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=6528&t=CleanUpWashington 2col.dwt
It was looking grim yesterday, as a partisan fight had broken out the day before which threatened to kill the whole bill.
The stand-off was over a dispute between Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) on whether the Senate would take a vote on a "line-item" veto proposal desired by President Bush.
Our activists and other concerned citizens then flooded the Capitol with calls demanding an immediate vote on real lobbying and ethics reform.
Throughout the afternoon and into the evening, the Senate leaders negotiated an agreement that eventually brought the bill back to life.
Here are bill highlights this is going to help on so many levels :) I am a happy camper...
The bill: 1. Bans gifts from lobbyists and organizations the hire lobbyists (no more gifts to lawmakers, folks).
2. Prohibits organizations that employ lobbyists from arranging or paying for congressional travel, with the following exceptions:
* One day trips
* Travel paid for by 501(c)(3), subject to pre-approval by the ethics committee
* Travel paid for by universities.
3. Requires Members to pay full charter rates for flying on private corporate jets, for officially connected and campaign trips.
4. Discloses all fundraising activity, including bundling, by lobbyists.
5. Prohibits lobbyists from hosting events that "honor" members of Congress, even at party conventions.
6. Extends revolving door prohibition from one year to two ?? and include "lobbying activity" in that two-year cooling off period.
7. Prohibits spouses of Members of Congress from lobbying, unless they were registered lobbyists prior to the Member's election or they were a lobbyist prior to one year of marrying the Member.
8. Members cannot request earmarks that benefit the Member's immediate family.
9. Extensive earmark disclosure, for federal agencies as well as earmarks to private parties.
10. Earmarks must be posted on the Members' Web page.
11. Disclosure of stealth coalition lobbying.
12. And, of course, quarterly, electronic reporting of lobbying activity.
Global warming? Maybe global freezing. We've had record cold temps here in the San Francisco area for more than a week now. My 3yo daughter walked outside and slipped and fell on the ice. We're not suppposed to have ice here.
Then again, it did get up to 113 degrees at our house this past summer. That was a record too.
Warmer or colder, the weather definitely seems to be fucked up lately
You're kidding I hope...
sorry about your baby falling :( Is she ok?
My daughter and grandson have been without electricity for days and they are having a big ice storm again!! They are in Missouri..
And Tommy had hurricane force winds in Germany!
Things are changing..wouldn't it be amusing if that huge iceberg that broke off up here made it all the way to SF!!
shut up.Quote:
Originally Posted by benagain
its warm now because of el nino, and GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL. trash it a bit? we butt fucked the shit out of this planet, seriously, its taking a lot of abuse and maybe, hopefully, we can save it without permanent damage, but that takes some work. its not going to be some apocalyptic 'the day after tomorrow' hollywood shit, but it could eventually stop life on the planet if not addressed properly.
Nope, not kidding. We have had really bizzare weather here this year. extremes on both end of the tempearature scale.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueCat
My little girl just fell on her butt and laughed it off. It was just an amazing thing that there would be ice to fall on in the first place. Every now and then I'll see some first thing in the morning, maybe a very thin sheet on top of a puddle off in some shady spot off the road. But this was in the afternoon and on pavement(which would normally be warmer). That's pretty much unheard of. It's the entire West Coast too. I work with some people up in the Portland area and they were completely shut down on Monday.
And what's with NY? I kept hearing on Letterman that it was like 70 degrees there last week. Is that true or was he just fucking around?
Letterman had to be joking they are covered in ice too...
But at one point last week Houston had 79 degrees and just a few miles away it was 20 degrees :eek: man I bet those were some big thunderstorms!
Ummmm wasn't benagain's post sarcasm? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by klup
Fengzi,
A simplistic word,
Global warming is very slow, So far we've only warmed the earth ~0.63 degrees Celsius.
This isn't an amount that we would notice. But, 1) the world dosn't warm evenly the poles will feel the biggest effect at first. 2) The importance of this warming isn't that it will be a lil hotter. It's that this small change is significant for all kinds of earth systems. Systems that get destabilized by the change.
By destabilizing these systems (systems like the gulf stream, Jet stream and others) Causes climate change. Climate Change is what we are being subject too and is what were worried about.
If you have any doubt, check out how fast records are getting broken around the globe.
All kinds of records: Hottest hots, coldest colds, wettest, driest, stormiest and so on.
It’s quite concerning.
Its hard to tell onlineQuote:
Originally Posted by BlueCat
Yea, umm. I was just joking around. Even apologized for overreacting when people started taking me serriously. Took myself serriously (when it didn't deserve it). Just so everyone is clear here....actually you know what..go read the rest of the thread yourself. I don't feel like re-typing it all. Don't just read one post and hit quick reply :thumbsup:
the poles are already feeling it...haven't you read about the dead polar bears :(
Polar bears drown as ice shelf melts
SCIENTISTS have for the first time found evidence that polar bears are drowning because climate change is melting the Arctic ice shelf. The researchers were startled to find bears having to swim up to 60 miles across open sea to find food. They are being forced into the long voyages because the ice floes from which they feed are melting, becoming smaller and drifting farther apart.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...938132,00.html
The evidence on Google Video really seems to be coming in fast and furious now. This video shows the effects of climate change on Patagonia in South America. It contains amazing before and after pictures that are pretty hard to dispute...I mean look at the difference in the photos....it's scary..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...31863790&hl=en
Not if taken in context with other benagain posts...Quote:
Originally Posted by harris7
Poor ben so misunderstood :D
my comment was accutaly for Fengzi post
insert Vinnie Barbarino voice here--> I'm so confused!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by harris7
It is...and harris you know what I don't understand? I just don't get the divisiveness of this issue. Even when they had all this crazy weather from El Nino all the reporters were clamoring to report 'this is not global warming don't be afraid" Instead of using El Nino to explain what global warming as it advances will be like...it is going to change the global water conveyor and when it does we will see the same weather changes that come with El Nino only worse. Why didn't they use this weeks weather to help people to understand? It is crazy. I just don't get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by harris7
Polar bears have begun to cannabalize each other.. because there hunting grounds are GONE...
iloveyou
I haven't really read through this thread, but this is what I know:
Global warming is a bunch of media BULLSHIT. It's fucking hype, nothing more. Earth goes through these cycles all the time, fluctuations in temperature like this are not uncommon.
We had warmer temperatures on the earth 200,000 years ago. This is nothing new.
Quote:
Originally Posted by unconscious
umm actually your media is trying to convince you that it doesn??t exist.
If you want me to rebut your statements please answer some questions:
-Can you name a single earth cycle?
-how about the one most responsible for climate? And what should the planet be doing now??
-Could you please name one public person who doesn??t believe in G/W.
IT isn't an issue of debate Anywhere! Neither is climate change. Actually neither is being debated at all. The only thing that is occurring is science progressing as usual and large corporations protecting their investments. It??s quite reminiscent of Big tobacco and asbestos.
Blue cat, the polar bears are now on the endangered species list
right on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garden Knowm
Unconscious you might be interested in finding out who funds and manufactures your ??knowledge?
www.exxonsecrets.com
You know, not even oil companies believe that anymore. They once had an organization called the ??Global Climate Coalition? who??s purpose was to oppose action against climate change. It was formed in 1989 and was very successful in stalling action against climate change and consequently they have enjoyed almost two decades of huge profits.
It has pretty much died off since 2000 since several of the companies involved have left and are perusing green tech now; Namely BP who is now the world??s largest manufacture of photovoltaic cells
Billa, I don??t really know what you mean.
If you are talking about the Temp of the planets, well the order is Venus, earth then Mars.
And the temperature seems to decrease with distance.
Venus temp range is : 737K ?? 773K
Earth temp range is: 185K ?? 331L (-88.3 C ??57.7 C)
Mars temp range is: 133K- 293K (-140--- 20 degrees C)
So temperature decreases as distance from heat source increases.
What??s the problem?
They have also begun hunting seals in open water, something never b4 seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garden Knowm
it's really quite sad
Quote:
Originally Posted by unconscious
WOW.... thanks for clearing it ALL up.... you have saved the day... I was starting to get worried... so.. you say it is all bullshit... great.. great.. fantastic... I think I will by and Escalade tomorrow...
AND since you have been so kind sharing your wisdom.. could you send me your mailing address to [email protected]
I have a DVD for you..
iloveyou
http://www.leonardodicaprio.org/what...balwarning.swf
you tell em' leo
YOU ROCK!!!! nice findQuote:
Originally Posted by MaryJaneScott
listen to the wombat gk.. he is wise. http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-...ld-wombat.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Garden Knowm
Love :)
i'd like to give you a tongue bath. cause your special.. not short yellow bus special.... your special like double stuff oreo cookies...
iloveyou
only, i'm better for your teeth....
Quote:
Originally Posted by omegagodly
Hey waddup i live in a medium sized town called Centerburg. Its like in between Sunbury and Mt. Vernon. I just quit distrubting tha GREEN around here. So if you live by and know where to get some hit me up. L8ER