count 19
you will inspire soo many people with this! they look great!
no adjustin height in there, think they will get too close to lights?
12/12 both bulbs or just HPS?
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count 19
you will inspire soo many people with this! they look great!
no adjustin height in there, think they will get too close to lights?
12/12 both bulbs or just HPS?
Yea I counted 19 too. That cant be right.
Guess I better count again huh?
As for height adjustment angry one, I can simply move the bulbs into a horizontal position and easily gain a foot :)
Besides, I am curious to see if they double in height like mature plants do.
Either way, we'll find out first hand what flowering babies does to plants huh?
Yea I'll flower with both bulbs. I believe it helps bud size among other things.
No that one in the Sprite bottle, row 4 is one....it looks like two cuz she's growing secondaries above the canopy now.
So, 18 it is :)
HD here's that second pic you posted last tweeked in PS. Just thought people would like to see it a little better so they could see the size of the area.
missed ya, didn't get to read your reply until middle of night, maybe tonight 11pm
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Originally Posted by Marc Benson
Thanks MB....
I included the same pic that can be enlarged....
This space is only 24" wide X 18" deep. It is 34" tall.
For those space limitations, a SOG or one plant is the only real option.
Here is a pic of the top chamber for vegging / clones.
It is the same 24" Wide X 18" deep and 30" tall.
the i include a pic of both chambers as best as i can.... my back is against a huge workshop bench that is non movable.
Both chambers have dual 4" passive intakes, and a 6" exhaust driven by one VORTEX 6" exhaust fan. The exhaust has been 'T' formed together so the one fan extracts heat from both chambers.
It is strong enuff to pull from both chambers very nicely.
Incidently,,,,,,today I had to place the exhaust back into the carbon scrubber on day 21 as the smell was too overwhelming.
So for 20 days it was bearable but now that they are 21, its time for odor control.
DAMN HARDDON you go to weed college or somthing lol.i know if i got questions im asking you and Zandor. Great information. seem to be geting lot of help reading your updates and post. you planing on sampling out these beuties?
STC
passive air? garage air coming in or AC as fresh air?
what temps?
HPS n MH make em stink!
6feet;
Thanks for the kind words and I may indeed sample out some....
Thing is I have a lot of good strains in here and only 3 of each kind....I hope to yelikd a half ounce on some and a quarter on some others.
Plus I still have to see how many turn female so right now I have no idea of what I will have to work with.
Next time I SOG with clones....hopefully one of the two blueberries I pulled out for further veg will be a mother....hopefully both of them too.
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Angry one....
It is fresh air coming in from the garage. I have massive fan action going in the garage and right now the temps are about 82 F.
Their night drops to mid 70's.
If it gets above 83 F I open the house door and A/C the garage to bring down the temps.
I suspect the average flowering temps in the next few weeks to be 75F / 70F...... 24/7
Fall is a wonderful time for flowering outside :)
Hard hope ya got the pics I sent...hope it wasnt to the wrong email!! Let me know sweetie
That sample thing is such an awsome idea i think. wish ppl would consider my post lol. anyways i was wondering what a good set up would be or look like for an appartment closet space? and what i would be looking at spending. you seem to know what you are doin man. so i trust what you got to say. also what strain are u using. and whats the cost of geting ahold of some? thx
STC
Say bro, .what's up?...
whats this day 22? looking foward to update
Cannabuds....
Today is their 3rd day in flower. They just went to sleep after their 2nd cycle of 12/12.
I wont be posting updates daily any longer as I will switch to weekly updates during flower. I can already assure you though that even 20 day old plants will double or triple in height :)
This evening when they wake up, I am going to have to raise the lights already as they have all grown maybe 4 inches in the last 2 days.
Also, as they mature, Many are now having their secondaries show alternating stems already. Very interesting.
I miss posting daily updates but, really, there is not much to see other than taller versions of what I have shown for 20 days straight. I do have one that is already exposed abot 5 secondaries above the canopy.
A shame to flower so young...she could have given me 10 - 11 ounces had I the space.
Anyhow day 23 of life
....day 3 in flower.
Shhhhhhh......the little whores and future cunts are sleeping :)
AWSOME. looking forward to the weekly flowering updates. anyway you can take some close ups?? thx
STC
Nice well ill just have to look foward to the weekly updates now thats cool you got a good point keep up the good work!:)
To those following this SOG, I had intended to not post anything but weekly updates. Upon reflection, that probably isn't justice to the spirit of learning...and teaching....that we have here.
I realized tonight whilst I was looking at them, that really they are in another stage, of most importance to the SOG as I am learning.
That being said, there are a few items if interest in the SOG that might be beneficial to some, or, I could get advice from someone who has SOG'd before.
So, I will post occasional updates more frequently than I planned so as to show the veg to flower stage.
Here we are on day 3 of flower.....
Observations:
Plant height has taken off across the board. There are two runts. One of them was stressed when I made her hole to small and I shoved her down anyhow like a LateWood mad scientist might in my tiring of transplanting :)
So a benchmark here on day 3.....photo shows I have 18" left till I hit top. I have to consider light height and such....I figure I can get the lights 4" from the top...that leaves me 14".
Next the height from the bulbs....With good fans I can get them within 6"....
So that leaves me 8" of height in a 34" ceiling clearance. :eek:
The plants have grown a solid 3.5 - 4" in 3 days......:eek:
So already those planning a SOG...don;t veg more than 21 days. I think I will have enuff room....but for you contemplating a SOG becasue of height....pay attention to how much and how fast these grow.
Next subject would be the follow up on the stressless transplanting.
Here are pics showing complete acceptance of the transplant. This happened within 48 - 72 hours of transplanting. They were given a solid 6 inches of new depth to grow thru.
They did it without blinking an eye in days :)
And finally, a thing to think about...
Taking care of 18 fast growing plants is a lot more time consuming than taking care of 2 or 3.
You still need to intimately observe each plant in detail...in study and look at every single plant, every single leaf, node and stem.
It's important to not let the number to be cared for overwhelm you.
I check each plant 2 -3 times a day...carefully studying and catalouging everything. Only because I want to learn....if nothing else.
I am not interested in just growing smoke at all. I really wanna be a master in the art :)
Anyhow, during my thorough examinations, I came across this little fucker and handled business before it got outta control :)
In a matter of days this could have been devastating in a tight indoor grow like a SOG :)
Harddon
You said you could keep the lights at 6 inches away from plants...
Are you doing this now??
Just wondering...the closer the light is at all times will lessen the stretching
Later
If you look at the pic on the left, you will see the tape measure...right now I am at 6"....on the nose.....
Besides I believe this is flower stretch, not just growth stretch....
In theory I want them to stretch as they should during flower...I just want a simple SOG without the height problems for once... LOL... :)
A couple of these are gonna produce more than just one main kola bud.....many have exposed canopy secondaries now as they too have shot up in size.
"Anyhow, during my thorough examinations, I came across this little fucker and handled business before it got outta control"
Those are thrips. I had 'em too HD. I used Concern and it worked perfectly. It's an insecticidal soap. The experts on such things that I spoke with suggested that these little pieces of crap (what I call them) are tough to get rid of as they get in the dirt and that's where they propagate. Turn into flying biting little monsters. They suggested at least 4 applications to make sure that you get them all.
any room to open up below bottom chamber?
hollow under floor? extra room?
Good evening...
FLOWER DAY 6
I have my first confirmed female :)
All plants are getting ready to show me their gentalia. It a few more days I shall know the outcome of the female to male % which I hope to have a 75% as a result of stress free living :)
I got a really cool pic where you can actually see the shadow the hairs cast on the stem :)
GOod evening...again :)
3 days ago I posted PIC 1 which shows the ruler at about 19" - 18" of space left, minus the 6 inches I need for this to work....
Today I post PIC 2 which shows where I am at now...17" less 6 inches for lights....11" left is all I have.
I should have flowered at day 14 instead of 21...LOL :)
It sure is cool sitting here smoking my own grow, chilling to Marley, wasting my life :)
Here are a couple of pics....
One shows how close I have the MH to the canopy to try and slow down the fricking growth..... I have it almost as close as the CFL's in veg....
I think its within 2 inches of the top. The light is doing great at penetrating becasue I have a remarable amount of secondary growth to my surprise.
But soon the light will have to be moved horizontal and then only the canopy will be the light and the lowers I expect will begin to yellow quickly in the next week.
In fact, I predict in 2 weeks I will have little more than stems and a main kola and maybe a few high fans.
Gonna look pretty ugly :)
Congrats Hard On on your Little bitch glad to here there starting to "come out the closet" and show there sex lol well hope you do get the 75% that would just be awesome and it is really amazing how they have grown since you started flowering! well have a good one smoke one for me as im dry at the moment and on a search for so good bud wish me luck in my search ill need it were i am lol oh well looks great C ya
HD! What'd ya do about your thrips? You said you 'handled business before it got out of control' but never said what you did. Inquiring minds want to know!
Soap and water soap and water soap and water.
3X now.
And actually a few crossed over to another plant next to it.
Its a daily check thing now but I think I got em all.
Can't wait for the cooler weather so these fuckers leave me alone.
I've applied the Concern (insecticidal soap) twice now. Thought they were toast the first time but saw a few running around so hammered 'em again. I hate them little pieces of crap. In fact I think we should officially change their names to "Pieces of Crap".
Glad you got 'em taken care of HD!
DAY 7...
Lost yet another inch.
They have now doubled in size. Bulbs had to go horizontal tonight.
Lesson #432...18 plants smell far better than 2 or 3! The aroma is so much more intense :)
DAY 8
Lost yet another inch.
I identified four males tonight and two females.
That makes it:
FEMALES: 3
MALES : 4
They are all within days now of showing.
FUck it seems like it takes forever during this part. I hate this shit.
I should have cloned WHORE when I could have.
Clones....thats the only way to go I am learning.
congrats on the new found bitches so whats that leave 14? 3 verified female and 11 unverifed?
Well remember I pulled 3 out of the SOG to focus on something new snce they were slow growers.
so lets see....
18......less 4 males.......less 3 females...
that leaves me 11. If 50% are female I have 9 plants.
9 fucking plants with one bud.
This is quickly deteriorating into a disssappointing lesson but a valuable oen at that.
I will now begin preaching clones.
Why go thru all this shit for 50% males?
Doesnt add up.
I need a whore mother... :)
Yes i do belive your right would make this process a WHOLE lot easier and would not take as long either! looks like you should make a couple bitches mothers how the three headed princess?
hold up i was doing the math im my head you had 25 to start right>? then 21 sprouted right then took out 3 found 4 males and 3 females so far so 21-3-3-4 = 11 what am i mising here? where you get 9?
11 is correct. 50% gives 9 ladies.
50% of mine were dirty old men.
clone clone clone. next go round.
sooo many lessons to learn, soo much time!!!!
DAY 9...
Boy do I ever regret the moment I had this fucking SOG grow idea.
Surely another one of those famous stoner moments.
Got another female today so the count is 4 to 4.
ONe good part of finding a male is i get more room for the lower plants...even though that wasnt the purpose of the grow...
But shit I remember Whore and Cunt at 28 days were two nice plants....an here now...i got these fucking stems with leaves on em.
13" tall main stems with leaves on top.
Whoop-dee-frickinn-doo-dooo :)
I am embarrassed even to show them :(
Never SOG without clones...it aint worth the powder to blow the grow to hell.
ANyhow, I also got poison oak.
No not the smoke kind...but the real kind. Fucking shit doesnt stop itching unless I douse it with hair spray and blow it dry with hair dryer.
Lets see...what the fuck else is bothering me now cuz my fucking grow fucking sucks :(
Anyhow I still got the 3 headed bitch...even though she grows at the same rate a saguaro cactus does.
Well thats it for todays update.
Dont be shocked if my next update is that of a whole heap pile of stems and leaves laying up in the hills in the pine trees.
Thanks for viewing and have a nice day :)
Well you must either be out on xanax or that damn poison oak has realy got you upset lol man i what i would give to have what you got going on there and i personaly think it looks great and you knew from the begining that it was just gonna be a few buds on each one its just been a bad day for ya it will get better Hard On DR CANNABUDS says take two xanax and a bong or two of cunt and whore and post us in the morning! :) cheer up buddy remeber those stems with leave will be stems with buds not to long from now!