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Just a funny little observation: has anybody ever noticed roots hitting the pots side & growing straight down, instead of winding around the pot sides? I'm thinking maybe because I had a tad too many lumens running & they were trying to excape the light? My roots always wrap around. I've never noticed this kind of root growth before. :)
no, i don't have your photobucket link. the first one I tried didn't work.
Yes I do Have a recipe Cat- I have had shingles that attacked my left ear - the nerve, and have pretty bad nerve pain in that ear with the weather, stress and wind too and the root oil actually helps it. I also have some neuropathy in my feet from a birth defect in them and this root oil gives me more relief than anything I have ever tried.
The root oil seems to be the best anti infammatory in the natural world - the Israeli's have been studying it and using it but I had a very difficult time getting any real info it so I have been playing with it. It seems to be pretty particular to nerve pain. Neuropathy's get relief within minutes and it lasts for a few hours, my mom's sciatica even got some relief although it wasn't gone completely it did seem to get to a place where she could walk better. She likes it with a little of the leafy extract cooked down into it ( yes my house looks like a mad scientist experimenting quite a bit )
So try this for your ear - I use a q-tip and put the oil in the actual canal and get relief right away- it lasts until I get back out into the weather again. I used to get this terrible burning that would last for hours - haven't had that since the first application- over 2 months now.
If you get leafy material and make an elixir- add about half and half of elixer and oil - cook on low til the alcohol evaporates, turns the oil green but my mom likes this lotion better, says it helps with more than nerve pain? I'm still trying to figure it out so let me know if you try and how it works. I have started to change the way I do things a little- working to get more roots then I used to so anything you know that makes roots grow please point me in that direction.
I have given this oil out to a few trusted friends and asked them to use and report back - not quite a controlled experiment- but I really just did this to get my own relief, didn't really think I would find something that works so good lol! I have only had one person that said they didn't notice anything, funny thing is- he is the only one on a regular dose of opiates….
Ranger- I didn't really think that the pot would work either but tried it because my little heater went out- I used 4 of these for a room about 10 x 10 and after about an hour that room was toasty at close to 80 degrees! - This is something great to have around your closet- cabinet or grow in the winter in case you lose power- it will keep a place warm enough in an emergency.
Just burning candles warms a place up too - but the pots are a little safer when it comes to fire hazard.
Crystaliscious - Is your root oil strictly topical or has anyone ingested it? I have trigeminal neuropathy and would love an anti-inflamatory for it, but it's around my temple into my hair-line and around my eye. Not sure how much of it can be reached externally. Just wondered.... might have to try making some next harvest.
Thanks for the candle/clay pot info! I never knew! (Cat, I would have frozen to death in that snowbank.) Now I'll get some clay pots in case the power goes out this winter, and I can keep my plants warm.
Ok guys(hope I can say that without offending), I do understand fire. Heated with a Franklin stove for years. Till my heart problem started, heating with wood warms you up several times(cutting, loading, splitting, stacking, even the clean up) then there's the fire. During an ice storm several years ago, lost power for ten days in this new fangled all electric house. Was able to maintain low fifties using several oil burner candles, family headed for town(I went to town to watch super bowl).
But the idea of intensifying heat with a clay pot still mystifies me. Btu's in Btu's out - conservation of energy, just didn't add up. Better half should me u tube of man calming to have solved energy crisis with candles and clay pots, filed it with perpetual motion(which I know cat claims to have). Quess I must see to believe.
Side note, headquarters(underground), ten days of dark low fifties, like suspended animation no problem.
But I have a good supply of smoke at all times, so my vision can be blurred at times!!:jointsmile:
I thought it was crazy too- didn't hink it would work it went against what I thought I knew- as I get older i learn how much more I need to learn.
Still doesn't make sense and I still use my radiant quartz heater in place when able because it is warmer but the candles have kept me warm a afew times now….and I have used them in smaller spaces where warmth is helpful- like near a cutting project.
I agree with you Ranger- it may just be that we are so damn cold that any warmth actually seems like more lol!
Cat - have noticed our root observation, in my veg operation(where growing the fastest), when the roots show out of my smaller cups and pots it's time to repot. Waiting to long gets me root wrap, which I try to remove when repotting.
Crystal - work for ringing in ears? Now it's more of a roaring. People don't like my hearing problem.
giggletwig- I have read of people ingesting the root extracts and oils and roots themselves- they have lived and said they got benefits- my experience tells me this is where the heavy metals are kept ( as well as all the other components for life of the plant) and that makes me a little edgy….but others have tried it.
I did cook with it once and didn't notice anything… I have done the oil pull technique with this for 3 weeks now ( I gag every time I do it but it does work mysteriously) and I have several little tags on the inside of my cheek that are either gone or almost gone.
I rub it on and within minutes the pain is starting to back down - I use it on my jaw area and behind the ear too - it soaks in pretty quick and does not leave my hair greasy - my hair seems to like it.
Now my partner uses this all over his body & as a hair oil, and he also has used it with the oil pulling technique with no problems - i have noticed that when I put some on a q-tip and let it melt into my ear canal that my sinuses actually react within a few hours- they start draining.
Now I have also totally replaced all of my expensive ( and I do mean expensive the only luxury I really ever afforded myself) face creams with this. I now use this as my sole moisturizer on face and neck and have been for about 1 month- 2 people have told me I look younger… (yay)…it also is helping some sun damage I had on my chest….
As an herbalist I know that the roots are usually the most important part of the plant- I think we are going to find the same with cannabis…..but I do like the effect of the rest of the plant!
yes - the ringing in my ears has been helped - but my hearing has not improved as of yet….hoping it does...
"working to get more roots then I used to so anything you know that makes roots grow please point me in that direction."
If you want lots of good, clean, roots, I recommend a bucket, some water, and an airstone.
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It's really that simple.
This is how I learned that roots keep growing during flower.
And Mahalo for the kind rep. message. :)
Aloha,
Weeze
Another thought to keep in mind for healthy root growth; first of all, we tend to give an over abundance of nitrogen, so I feed mostly flowering nutes unless the plant asks for some nitro by just begining to pale. P & K for flowers & stong stems.... & roots! ( I do use growth nutes when in RAPID veg growth, but gently, never MORE than recommended strength). This works for me. My fav for this, & seedlings first few feeds..... fox farms big bloom. Also, my seedlings always have really sturdy stems. No floppy fall overs! When in veg, I do supply a diluted foliar feed of nitro once a week. Just keep in mind that bloom nutes do more than just feed buds. Makes healthy stem & ROOTS too ! (I always give transplants a shot of big bloom because of what it does for root health! ;) ) I never follow the recommended nute program, I tweek a nute here & there according to what the plants tell me. :) :) :)
Catbuds you and I share a love of Big Bloom, that is for sure. And for good reason. I also mix Budswel into my soil during flower. Pretty much the same thing as Big Bloom but slower release. I went on a rant about nitrogen in another thread and I won't repeat it here, but I agree that people tend to overfeed with N, and the big fert. companies feed our addiction with their hot ammonia-based products. Even Grow Big I use at half strength. Good soil doesn't need a lot of added N, anyone who has grown in Ocean Forest or better yet good home-made soil knows that. If a person is willing to put the time into re-potting as the plants grow, the fresh soil will provide all the N they need. I did not feed my plants anything but occ. Big Bloom during veg. and they thrived. Thrived too much in fact.
Chromo, you are so right on! Damned you're a breath of fresh air! I start my seeds in 9 cell pk. (Individual pk from 72 cell inserts for plant trays). First transplant into 8oz styro coffee cups (they 'breathe.... plants love them!). This promotes great seedling growth! From there, they go into red party cups.... you get it. Pot up in very small increments as needed, regardless of what growth stage they're in, & don't disturb the root/soil ball, trying to keep it whole so no feeder/root hair damage. Ofcourse using 1/2 strength big bloom as a transplant tonic ea time, & going up in richness in soil ea time.
-- I used to compost & make all my own orgainc mixes, but age, arthritis & nerve damage kinda limits throwing compost around with a shovel/pitch fork, & then I found FOX FARMS (& of course my old favorite, pro-mix organics, equalivent to happy frog), & I'm more than happy with the change. Costs a lot more, but well worth the expense!
-- Your love of plants (& stones ;) ),& your occupation/education, has made you into a great grower even before you grew! So what took you so long? You should have been doing this ages ago! :) :) :)
Cat, my brothers grew in a little clearing in our woods- then I had kids lol!
Still have one hanging on off to college in a few years- I was terrified of losing my house through search and seizure.
Should have grown anyway, lost it to foreclosure a few years back with only 15,000 left to go- oh well!
Now things are different, once that first little seed popped I like many became completely fascinated with this plant like no other, the plant literally talks!! More personality then most humans too!
I have always stayed in close circles with the people I knew were growing, but was scared- true freedom really is when you have nothing else to lose and in that freedom I find a peace and happiness that I didn't know was possible.
My older brother has a sweet outdoor op in NM, so maybe one day I will find myself in the desert.
I couldn't stop now if I tried- I would rather grow then smoke and that's saying a Lot !
Damned Crystal! So sorry about you loosing your house! My dream house would be a cabin in the woods (around 10-15 acres would be perfect. I'd have a stream, & hopefully another spring. The cabin could be run down for all I'd care, cause I'd be outside most of the time. I'd have clearing in the woods to grow, & hopefull the property would be land-locked. Very low key & out of plain view. Of course I'd have a hidden basement under the cabin for my indoor winter grow! ;)
-- Yeah... Ed's right. Smoking's not addictive. .. it's the growing that gets ya! LOL! ;) ;) ;)
Thanks for the kind words cat. I have wanted to grow Cannabis for a long time, but my ex-wife was someone who, uh...well lets just say it would have been a problem. Anyway, I'm in a much different (and better) place in my life now and have more freedom to do what I want. Why I ever chose to live otherwise I'll never understand. But that's the past. My experience as a grower of plants in general certainly gives me an advantage. But there are many nuances to growing Cannabis indoors that I am very much enjoying as an exploration. I love getting the feedback from people here because all of it is part of the learning process. I truly believe that once you stop learning, you're worse than dead.:cool:
Air or water, without movement, stagnates. A mind that's stopped learning.........stagnates. When you stop learning, the joy in life is gone. So keep thinking outside the box! It's a learning process! ;)
I had something important to share with you guys, but I'm so stoned, I forgot what it was! ;) ;) ;)
And this is from your leaves? Either your tolerance has collapsed(like mine) or your going to have some good stuff.
I'll cross my fingers for you too!!
Yep! No tolerance at all. Haven't smoked bud since late spring/early summer bacause of the thieves. Sometimes I think I can get a buzz just by looking at everybody's pics! But here's what I wanted to share. I put new batteries in my hand held 'scope last night. Had some junk under the canopy that wasn't getting light & heading down hill, so I cleaned up the plants & removed it. Threw it in the trash. Kept 1 leaf to check out under the scope, & it was covered with trichromes (funny thing was, they had no stalk, just sitting on the leaf surface). About 50/50 clear & milky. What suprised me more, was that the leaf stem was covered too, & they were bigger. (So I pulled them out of the trash & laid them out to dry). Here's where I'm going with this. Most people are aware that while in veg, just before they pre flower, male leaf is usually more potent than female. So I'm going to put the heavily trichromed plants on one side, & the ones with fewer on the other, then sit back & wait to see how accurate this is. Certainly don't expect 100% accuracy, but I think it may be close. Just playing with my curiosity. One thing this WILL be useful for is picking your most potent male for breeding. Sure I'm not the only one to do this, its just that I'd never checked out trichromes on any part but the buds before. Well since I'm playing with my little 'scope, think I'll go see if I have parasites! NO NO NO! I'm only kidding, I don't have any slides! LOL! (HELP ME! I'm bored!) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Wow! I just had a nice suprise! Took a big ole hit of leaf, smooth, not bad at all for leaf, but when I exhaled I got the very distinct taste of pink bubblegum! Can't wait to smoke the buds from this! ;) ;) ;)
Cat, after getting to know you through your post, think I found your avitar, Bing Daisy Mae. Have tried to bring image, but not techno brainy enough.
We're all waiting, on pins and needles, for real smoke report.
Ranger, I need an avatar! I can't figure out how to post anything but text. I'm going to try to get this photobucket thing figured out so I can at least give a link for anybody who wants to view my album. I have a 'share' option on my phone, but is there such a thing as a link to my grow thread? If there is, maybe I can post direct from my phone. (I just thought of that, or I would have already checked it out).
-- I don't know what kind of effect long term acupuncture would have on the human butt, so don't sit on pins & needles just yet. Remember I've been trying to hold them back? Well another thing about mainlining that works to my benefit is that fact that its time consuming. What it amounts to on a time line, is top & grow out twice, then supercropping. All that topping & thinning out non-productive under growth will keep me in leaf untill I harvest bud, so I can wait for perfection. ;)~~~~~~~ :) :) :)
Something strange. I have one plant that just doesn't like as much nutes as the others. I feed a diluted solution when some of the plants just start to pale, & THAT one will get a touch of nute burn. Same size, same root mass, but just doesn't like much nutes. Tonight was the second time I flushed it because of this. Gonna put a tag on it so I know to bypass it on the next feeding & when I finally feed it again, nutes will be diluted down to 1/4 strength. But I'll make it BEG for food first! .......just thought this to be strange, considering they're all the same strain, same batch of seed.
Do you have them sexed yet? I noticed my last young males wanted more food than the females??? Could be a recessive gene too?
Couple of questions. How do you watch the root balls? In today's world of fast food, can you assume much of anything? Maybe just one stray seed to make the batch. Still might be growing males, it's been awhile.
Males stretch above the females to ensure they drop their pollen on them. So I have 4 showing female growth habits, & 3 showing male habits. I'd shit if the one always getting nute burn is my only female! I need to take my glasses & 'scope to the closet & look for pre flowers. Couldn't see any last night with my bare eyes, but hell! I can't see anything else either! I've been looking for preflowers every night, because, yeah..... its about that time.
-- Ranger. The party cups I'm using are translucent & I can see the roots when I first water. They sit in a deep tray & the canopy is dense, so they don't get enough light to grow algae or bother roots. I'm hoping its just a throwback (pheno).
-- I'm getting ready to make coffee & while I wait for that, I'm taking glasses & 'scope back to the grow for a quick closer look. The cold snap made it a tad too cool in the closet. Between that & the drastic pruning I expected them to be held back a little. I need to go back in my logs & find the date they sprouted. I also went from 18 hrs of light to 24. Needed the heat from the lights during that really cold spell. I've never went from 18 hrs in veg UP to 24 before, so I've no idea if this would make them hold off pre flowers. But yeah, need to go back & check date sprouted.
-- Coffee time! :)
Good luck, hope their mostly all girls!!
Well lo & behold! One has sexed! Male...... guess which one. The nute burned one! He's in the kitchen now, under the counter light. Just enough light to keep him alive till he gives me some pollen. (Damned! That almost sounds like I'm holding a sex slave for breeding purposes! Once he gives me a baby, its off with his head! Heheheheh)!
-- Checked germination date. Nov 21st. So they'll be 8 wks old in a few days. Ehh, a little slow on sexing, not too bad though. The more I think about it, the more I believe turning the light to 24 hrs ( for their heat) most likely is the major contributing factor to delayed sexing. If I have 3 females = 6 cuttings (the two 'arms' under the 4 main branches for mainlining). Clone them & put them into flower with the 3 mainlined plants as soon as they're established enough to take the light, that should be just right for the flower cabinet. The clones will be vertical & not take much space, so a few more will still fit. As soon as the clones go into flower, start more seeds. Put them under 12/12 younger, still in veg closet, & always have something in flower. Perpetual harvest.
-- You know, when you were used to about 600 outdoor plants & a huge grow room, going down to just a few plants & keeping them small hurts! Its hard to count out 9-10 seeds & not be tempted to throw in about 50 more. Its been years since the big grows, big plants. But I can't get used to the small stuff. I can do it, been doing it, but it just doesn't 'FEEL' serious. Dont get me wrong.... love little plants, but I feel like I'm only playing. I need this coming seasons outdoor grow, for more reasons than just a big harvest! Guess I need to feel a sense of accomplishment. God help me, but I have cabin fever bad!
Cat, your a real amazon ain't you, instead of Daisy Mae lets find a wonder woman.
Ranger. I was such a rough & tumble tom boy, my dad used to call me his little 'wonder woman'. But then every time I fell out of a tree & broke a few bones, my mom would tell me I'm NOT wonder woman! LOL! So I'm a little conflicted there! But then again, with all my bodily repairs, mom did call me the bionic woman for quite a while! ;)
-- Ahhh.... is it possible to have a severe THC deficiency? Nah, probably just the cabin fever! (Oops! I've heard that's the first sign of insanity; to ask a question, then answer it yourself! LOL!) ;)
At least talking to myself.
Ok. Think I have an answer. The nuted burned one that showed male? Dried some leaf,& other than chlorophyll, I could taste blueberry. The others taste like bubblegum on the exhale. So he's a throwback to the blueberry side. Maybe even to an ancestor to the blueberry. He did have slightly thinner leaves than the others & definitely different nute requirements. Now to go get some chores done! ;)
You think that if you take that male(pollen), into a female-bubblegum, that you might have some blueberry bubblegum. You've got lots of experimenting to do. Especially if you find bubblegum male and or a female blueberry.
Already lots of record keeping, good thing you like writing!!
Ranger, these guys are (bubblegum X blueberry) X bubblegum. When trimming, I found that the others had a distinctive bubblegum after taste on the exhale. What I'm hoping to do is have a female with either a detectable bit of blueberry flavor, or one with somewhat narrower leaves to pollinate with this blueberry dominant male. What I'd like to accomplish is (probably after several generations) a blend of the two flavors. Since the bubblegum is definitely dominate, it will probably be hard to find a blueberry throwback to do this, & I will most likely have to get some blueberry seeds for breeding. The best I can probably hope for this go round is keeping some blueberry genetics apparent in the line. It would seem in this group of seeds, this male is the only blueberry throw back I have. Hope to get lucky when I grow the other half of the seeds. It would be cool as shit to find the blueberry flavor is there & comes out to show itself after the cure. ;)
I like thinking about breeding!!
Oh Ranger! You're such a boy! LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by tlranger
I love blueberry, but most of the ones with the best blueberry flavor tend to be a little to heavy on the sativa for me. I love the bubblegum flavor, but its second to the blueberry. I'm hoping to come up with a blueberry bubblegum that has all the flavor of the blueberry but sweeter & only a hint of the pink bubblegum flavor. I also want to keep it indica dominate for size & speed. I like what the plants are now, just want to instill the blueberry flavor then inbreed for a while & stabilize the traits I like best. This is one of the ones where flavor tops the high. Even though the high is great, you smoke blueberry for the taste treat. :)
So you must want something, flattery will get you anywhere. Haven't be called a boy in a long, long.., long...time.Quote:
Originally Posted by catbuds
Your blueberry talk has sparked my curiosity, potency is job one, so will ask about that first. Then taste, then plant morphology. Do need to send you some good seeds though.
Been doing some catalog browsing, how much is a £?
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Originally Posted by tlranger
It's a moving target.
This morning, it was $1.64.
Aloha,
Weeze