Hey. I gotta have my priorities.:D:stoned::DQuote:
Originally Posted by syde00
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Hey. I gotta have my priorities.:D:stoned::DQuote:
Originally Posted by syde00
McT, at least folks can't say you're full of shit, eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by McToker
My best to you, and I hope you have healed back up. I'm really glad to see your spirit continues to soar - that's probably why I'd wager you have healed. I've seen a lady who was diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer - one of the most positive people I've ever come across. She beat the stew out of the cancer.
It sounds like you're made of the same cloth as she. Take good care out there, my friend!
no doubt mc, take care of yourself. you obviously have a good outlook which is the toughest part of the battle!
-shake
Shake & Jake :D ~ I thank you much for your well wishes.
I know we have 2 fewer plants now that the males are gone but the drop in water intake has decreased signicantly. The remaining 8 ladies are only taking on about 1 1/4 gallons every other day. Since MJ seems to prefer wet/dry conditions, we're going to try going to watering/feeding every 3 days instead.
On a number of the plants, the lowest branches are withering away. All are very small even anemic compared to other stems. No great loss as the other stems are healthy and budding.:D
Notes for next grow:
Try HPS light closer to tops to help control stretch.
FIM or top future grows early in vegging and even consider 2 ladies at a time under SCROG.
Going for 1 or 2 moms to clone from a must to control the number of females in bloom at a given time to make best use of small space.
Veg and Flower areas of new room will be 3x3 feet, slightly larger than current space but still good size areas for existing lighting. Will be CFL in Veg cabinet and HPS in Flower cabinet. Plants seemed to grow a bit slower in Veg under CFL's but have far less stretch than under MH.
ohh those fan-leaves are looking nice n' fat :greenthumb: Nice lookin plants man.
........ and that brings up the question of the week. It is time to decide whether or not to do a supercrop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hennessy1414
Pros: Slow down growth & give Mrs. luxury of time.
Allow more light to penetrate past the canopy.
Relieve some of the crowding in the tent.
Cons: Potential to go hermie from stress.
Seems like there's got to be another risk I missed.
Well, we have a window open for, at least, the next 5 or 6 days to decide.
I did some trimming around week 4 and all was good. I hated to do it, but some of the leaves were blocking light and ventilation, it seemed necessary. My ladies responded really well, and I just harvested with no hermies! Again, those girls look really nice, and you guys are doing an awesome job. Keep up the good work!:thumbsup:
Thanks fluid. You just added one more mark to the "do it" column.;)
didn't you start flowering already toker? you got another sets of young 'uns coming up?
-shake
Yup, Day 20 of flowering, shake. I'm just pondering whether or not to go with Secret Garden's suggestion of supercropping between days 21 and 25.
No new sprouts around here.:) We are also planning our next grow as well as the design of our new grow room. It will be a while until we can get to it, perhaps this fall after I've healed up and the temps drop a bit. After weighing various options, it comes down to building a room in a corner of the shop. The current plan calls for a 3x3 veg area, a 3x3 flowering area and a 4x6 utility/cloning area for overall interior dimensions of 6x7 feet. The walls and ceiling of the shop are already well insulated with 2x6 walls. So, to build the basic room we only need to throw up 2 more walls, one with a well sealed door. Then we'll subdivide the interior into the various areas. A small window A/C unit built into a wall of the utility area will handle cooling while a space heater takes care of cooler months, if needed. Our existing vortex fan and carbon scrubber flow enough CFM to handle lamp heat and odor control. The old Frankenlight with CFL's will go in the veg/mom area with the HPS in the flower area. Our idea is to be able to utilize as much of our existing hardware as possible to keep costs down. That is why we are sticking to smaller dimensions on the veg/flower areas.
For all the photo junkies, like me.;)
they are loving that new light aren't they?!
the new setup sound nice! i might go a bit smaller on the veg area and give yourself a little bit more space for flower. remember the "stretch"? and this should benefit if you want to go with a perpetual harvest. or leave the veg, and take a little from the utility closet/clone room, or better yet a tad bit off of each.
then get a 600W digital setup (~$200) for flower, move the 250W to the veg room and run the MH, you can either use frankenlight for clones (a wee bit overkill!) or dismantle and use some for the clones and then some for supplemental lighting. just a thought that wouldn't stop!
can't wait to see the madness unfold!
-shake
Title above the pics (above) should have read, "Day 21".
Yup, they like the HPS.:thumbsup:
Even though heat will be easier to control in the proposed new room, we still want to avoid bigger, and hotter, lights. We would also like to keep electricity usage down. We figure that with a continuous grow going, we can easily get by with the 250 watt lamp and a small space.
I think we'll leave Frankenlight intact but just not use as many bulbs. The shape/layout can cover a smaller area or a 3x3 area well.
This was the first time for the ladies to wait 3 days for water and nutes. They seem to like it just fine. We trimmed away some of the lower anemic, shriviling and non-productive branches.
The jury is still out on whether or not we will supercrop any of them. But, the wobble-meter is leaning towards DO IT. :) We will decide by the next watering on day 25.
I've been giving more thought to the plans for the new room. I'm thinking I will make the room a bit larger so that I'll have the option to vary the veg and flower area sizes. Only the outer walls will be permenant. Interior divisions will be done with panda and stick-on zippers.
good call on the future projoect mc!
super crop say, one of each or something like that. and leave a control. that way you can figure out what you prefer.
-shake
My main reason for wanting to try this was to put the whole crop in sloooow motion so that the Mrs. wouldn't have to deal with keeping the ladies tied down. Alas, that is not going to be a problem. I won't be having the surgery for at least 3 more months if not an indefinite wait. And, NO, I didn't ask him to postpone it until after the harvest.:D;):D Two months would have been enough. :D It seems there are other complications and he is giving, not only me more time to heal up, but time for both of us to weigh the risks of going through with the surgery.Quote:
Originally Posted by headshake
So............. bring on those buds!!!!!!!!!!:jointsmile::D:stoned::jointsmile:
everything looks great mctoker.....i hope all goes well with the surgury....sh*t and i thought i had it bad.....i wish you all the luck!
Keep it up bro....if you ever need any seeds feel free to get at me!
Thanks killa and I will definitely keep the seeds in mind. :)
Yesterday was the second time for watering every 3 days. Both times the ladies have taken on 2 gallons.
It's looking like bud city in the tent.:D There are healthy buds from the canopy down to about 2 feet below the canopy.
Trichs are starting to show up on the bud leaves or, as the Mrs. puts it, "They are starting to get some sugar." She says this part of the grow looks like someone sneaks in during the night and sprinkles sugar on the buds.;)
We opted not to do any supercropping, yet, anyway. While the older ladies look like they are mature enough for it, the younger ones don't. Most of the ladies are tied down, some quite a bit. Two of them are bent into a "?" shape. With carefull arranging after watering, we seem to be getting good light penetration through the canopy. We have to pull 1/2 the plants out to get the watering done. When putting them back, we try to arrange each one so that the maximum number of bud sites get good light. Seems to be working so far (knock wood).;)
We had considered adding a few CFL's to the mix but, we really can't see that they are needed nor do we really have the room in there for them.
each plant takes two gallons of water every three days?
everything sounds good though toker?
i'm not glad you get to postpone surgery, but i'm glad you get to take care of your ladies and get everything in order. does that make sense?
keep up the good work my friend. and get some of those beans from killa!
-shake
:):):) Nope. 2 gallons for all 8 or 1 quart each.:):):)
Since there is no PM option on this forum, I'm at a loss as to how to contact killa 'bout the seeds.:(
The jury is still out on whether or not I'll have the surgery. At least the Dr. took the pressure off. He said he's willing to wait as long as I want. He did add that if I wait until I'm in my 70's, he won't even consider doing it.:D So, that gives me a good 15 years to figure things out.:D:stoned::D
ok. i was like holy sh!t. you know how many bottles of nutes that you would go through!
i've got an idea working for some hempy's. i've got to get a few more supplies though. not exactly sure when that will happen, but i'm excited. you and killa have me ready to go!
send killa some rep with your email addy.
i know you'll do what's best for you and your's about the surgery, either way, best of luck.
and at least you'll have a bunch of meds!
-shake
I've been spreading the love around but I guess it will take a lot more before I can add to rep again.
I can't see us ever going back to a soil grow. The hempy method is just so much easier, at least for us. We will be trying larger buckets next time, though. These are working out OK especially with the crowded conditions. Future grows won't have near as many plants in bloom at one time so we'll have the room for 1 gallon buckets.
Gonna start clearing out a corner of the shop today for the new room. It will take a while just to make enough room.:D
sounds good mc. the new project is starting......i'm excited for you (and for my eyes)!
do you use a pH meter or what? that's one of the things holding me back. that and getting perlite and vermiculite in bulk.
i can't wait to start the buckets.
good growing.
-shake
hit me up at [email protected] om//////......ill get them out to you immediately!......i hope if you go threw with the surgery it works out for you!Quote:
Originally Posted by McToker
see mc, it will all work out! lol.
-shake
Thanks killa, looking forward to it. Still haven't decided on the surgery. The pro and the con columns are about even.
Shake ~ A PH meter will be a big plus. I tried the litmus paper and the test tube/drops methods. Both got me close, I thought. With either it wasn't too hard to be off by .5 or better. The meters are pretty cheap online. My R/O water is right at 6.0. After I add the nutes and stuff it is usually at 5.6. Two drops of PH Up and a gallon of water/nutes is on the money at 5.8. Sure beats trying to match colors to a chart. Besides, I'm somewhat red/green color blind.:D:D:D
I don't know that you'll need to get the "lites" in bulk. After making up 10 - 2 1/2 quart buckets, I'm part way through my third bag of perlite and still on my first bag of vermiculite. Both are just the regular size bags from Wally World. Even to make up 1 gallon buckets wouldn't take much unless, you're planning a monster grow.:eek::jawdropper:
thanks for all of the information toker!
i don't think my local wally world even has vermiculite. as a matter of fact i don't think any store that i visit for supplies has both of the "lites". weak.
i think i will get a meter. i've seen those cheap milwaukee ones on ebay. i'll probably start with one of those and then get a better one down the road.
don't have the space for a monster grow at the moment, but i wish i did!
good growing.
-shake
You might also try Lowes or Home Depot. I found the vermiculite at my local Lowes.
The cheap milwaukee is the one I went with. I found it on FleaBay but went directly to the vendor's site to order it. It came with a pouch of caibration fluid. Works like a champ.
thanks again.
"you must spread some rep around ......."
-shake
The ladies are still taking on 1 quart apiece on watering/nute day.
Pics 1 and 2 are of Blue Apollo #2. As you can see, creasing the main stem during a B&D session gone bad doesn't seem to have had any adverse effects.
Pics 3, 4 and 5 are of AK-47 #1. She is budding up right nice, if I don't say so myself.:)
Oddly enough, the lone bagseed lady, not pictured, while being a full 2 1/2 weeks older than Ak#1 is less developed than the youngest AK or BA. It was a runt to begin with but I have to think that the good genetics of the BA and the AK has to play a major role.
We added a taller tower fan to the tent today. The desk size one we were using just wasn't cutting it with such tall plants.
Just a few more pics from today.
The first two are the main cola on AK #1. The last is a group shot.
Now, if only there was an application for an aroma file.:jointsmile:
Things are looking good over here! Looks to be a nice harvest in the future eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by McToker
Paging Dr. :greenthumb: :D
Thanks I-715. Should be enough to last us a while.;)
I'd been noticing some discoloration on the leaves but was having a little trouble nailing down a diagnosis. My suspicion was Magnesium deficiency. Today, the signs actually progressed to the point that I am able to say,for certain, that it is a magnesium deficiency. We had been using 5ml of CalMag per gallon which gave us a PPM reading of 200. I went back and re-read the info on the bottle and it says for hydro to shoot for 300 PPM. Since they are currently deficient, I'm thinking we'll go with 10ml for a while. That should give us 400 PPM. After the plants show that they have recovered, we'll adjust the amount of CalMag down to 300 PPM.
Just a couple random pics from this morning's inspection.
We took a little test bud today. Ok. We're out and wanted to try a little.;)
We were goikng to take a little off of the bagseed plant but the buds just didn't look developed enough, compared to some of the others. It seems strange in that all of these ladies were put into flower at the same time yet some, the bagseed, two of the AK's and two of the BA's, don't seem to be as far along as the remaining ladies. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with how long each one vegged, either.
Anyway, we snipped a bit off of one of the more mature AK's and did a quick micro-dry. Whoa....... The Mrs. and I toked up half of a pinner. At only 4 weeks and not flushed, dried and cured........... this stuff is gonna do just fine.:stoned::jointsmile::stoned:
All of those ladies...Wow... Glad you managed to pull it off. I thought you were out of space for sure. :)
Good to hear about the test pinner. Betchya'll can't wait til you have a couple ambers in there. you'll be :stoned::stoned::stoned: offa one puff.
Either way, I'm :stoned:. The solution was a solution yet again. :wtf:
You and the Mrs. begood. :hippy:
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McToker, those look absolutely mouth-watering delicious. I envy you right now, haha. :D
And that is a BIG problem for us. We're out and keep staring at those buds. :jointsmile: I was going to snip another nug for today but I waited too long. The light has already gone off.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by fdsaasdf
On another note: We have started to prepare our new grow room. We picked up the lumber and the door yesterday. The wood is stacked to dry and cure. Shouldn't take long in this heat. When it's dry we'll start the framing. The room will be larger than originally planned for. Since it will have A/C we're making it a dual purpose area. It will also be used to store some antique furniture and art we are saving for our kids.
We also decided to dance with the one that brung us, so to speak. In keeping with the idea that we wanted to utilize as much of our existing equipment as possible and keep electricity costs down, we decided to use our existing Homebox S and add a larger grow tent, probably a 4x4, next to it. We'll use the new (larger) one for a vegging area and mother plants. Frankenlight and 4-foot flouros will go in there. Our current tent will be used for flowering.
Finally, we'll be able to do some clones.:D
McT, I'm glad to read you are in the driver's seat when it comes to your surgery - it sounded like you had to wait a bit to heal up more, but your doc was giving you some space which should make you more comfortable when moving forward with a decision. Please keep us all up to speed.
In the meantime, you have your hands, your wife's hands, and your tent absolutely full of some seriously burgeoning bud! Those are some big, long, and fat pistils poppin'. And, the dashes of sugar on those bud leaves are looking heavier and heavier with each passing picture. As you said, you and your wife are set for awhile! And, I know killa will blow your hair back with some of his beans - his purp strains are insane!
Keep on keepin' on, my friend - my best to your and yours!