New and Improved: Featuring Sour Northern Lights x Nevilles Haze

I had a bit of time to kill. So I wrote my outline as promised of my current setup.. and my goals/objectives. I wrote it down as things popped into my head so forgive me if I seem to run from thought to thought; but it gives a good idea of where I stand, and where I want to be.

Outline:

Current Flower room

• 4.5'x4.5'x7' Hydrohut
• 1 600 watt HydroFarm xtrasun HPS
• 600 Watt Eye Hortilux bulb
• Cool Tube w/ 6" 424CFM inline fan
• 6" 424 inline fan Ventilating the room
• 1 clamp mounted Circulatory fan, small (6 inches)
• 7 plants, 6 in 2 gallon pots and 1 in a 1 gallon pot
• Canna Coco substrate
• Full Canna Coco Nutrient line
• 12 hours of light; on from 9pm to 9am
• House Thermostat set at 75 degrees; Hut Temps sit at 77-82 depending on the temperature outside
• Panda Film duct taped over the windows to prevent light leaks. I've left about 2ft untaped so I can get my hands to the windows to take advantage of the cold weather that will be coming at night soon.

Mother room:

• One 2.5x2.5x 6ft cabinet with shelf (which I will either remove or lower.. currently the shelf sits too high for me to use it as a clone area like I wanted to)
• Home to 1 Mother (SNLxNH) currently undergoing LST
• Will house 2-3 more mothers soon, so far on my to do list is Master Kush, White Widow and another to be decided strain.
• Currently running 4 23 watt CFL's. Will expand this up to 10 23 watt CFL's.
• Running on 24 hour lighting. Will be changing to 18/6 and maybe even 16/8 for electrical savings.
• Plan on using Liquid light to get the mothers going due to lack of light intensity. This should help get the lower parts of the plants get some decent clone sites.
• Canna Coco Substrate
• Full Canna Coco Nutrient line
• 1 Box fan on highest setting acting as an exhaust (moves 2300 CFM supposedly)
• Panda film curtain to black out the room and prevent light leaks from hurting the flower room.

Goals/Objectives

• Get 2-3oz dry weight per plant in my current grow and future grows.
• Fill the 4.5'x4.5' area with the maximum number of plants for this area (I believe this to be 16-20)
• Grow immediately from Rooted clones to obtain the fastest harvest times. (Still deciding on either 1 gallon pots or 2 gallon. With coco you can get away with smaller pots)
• Prevent hermies on the SNLxNH strain through the use of Reverse and Penetrator
• Utilize cool Fall/winter Air to cool my grow room. Save money on electrical costs.
• Get more tools (TDS/PPM meter, RO water setup, etc etc) to be able to better control my grow. Though at this point I'm not sure I need an RO setup.
• Install Radiant Barrier and more blown in insulation to help keep the temps down as temps climb up in the spring time. This will benefit me outside my grow also.
• No intentions of growing through late spring/summer months. The heat where I live is just too intense and my electrical bill will be out the roof.

I hear you D, about the no growin in summer it's too damn hot here as well...I just hope to harvest enough in the cooler months to get thru the summer...but that didn't happen this last year, outta meds...:sadcrying...then there is outdoor for the summer, might as well take mother nature up on her offer for free light and co2...

got any pix of the SNLxNH mom in bondage... I want to try LSTing a SNLxNH mommy once I get my ass into gear...

D:jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by d4twamp

I hear you D, about the no growin in summer it's too damn hot here as well...I just hope to harvest enough in the cooler months to get thru the summer...but that didn't happen this last year, outta meds...:sadcrying...then there is outdoor for the summer, might as well take mother nature up on her offer for free light and co2...

got any pix of the SNLxNH mom in bondage... I want to try LSTing a SNLxNH mommy once I get my ass into gear...

D:jointsmile:

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No pics yet.. right now it apears I lost power at the house (it's pouring down here); but as soon as lights come back on I'll snap a shot of her. Nothing impressive yet. I may try throwing her under the HPS for a few hours a day to try to speed up the process until I can get my hands on some liquid light.

I would try outdoors but I don't even know how I would grow around here (I live in one of the 4 largest city's in the US) in addition to this I'm a bit paranoid traveling to and from a place that is not my home. Especially since I drive a luxury car and don't own a truck. Would look odd driving in the middle of no where in a high end car.

I'd like to try the liquid light too, I keep hearing good things about it...

D:jointsmile:

I've had issues with LL.....vague ones, but they bother me. My plants leaves just seem to start drying out after a few uses.....even at half strength with the lights turned off until they are dry.

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

I've had issues with LL.....vague ones, but they bother me. My plants leaves just seem to start drying out after a few uses.....even at half strength with the lights turned off until they are dry.

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Thanks for the heads up.. I've been thinking anyway just to throw the mom's under the HPS in the flowering room for a few hours (6-8) a day to get some intense lighting and then back under the CFL's for the remainder (10-16 hours) until they get nice and bushy.

don't have to spend anything extra on nutes and I get to utilize some of the extra space I have in my grow hut that I'm not using at the moment.

X-Crispi uses straight hps in veg and ends up with some very nice busy stuff when he turns it. More light!! Can't have too much light! Ever!

Forgot to mention, 5 out of 7 ladies have shown me their hoo-ha's...

The other 2 are a bit smaller than the rest and are probably playing catch up.

:hippy:

Cant wait to see em!
whiskeytango

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Originally Posted by SnSstealth

Cant wait to see em!
whiskeytango

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eh.. nothing worth really looking at right now. I had to really scour around for the calyxes/pistils.

They probably won't start looking sexy until week 3 or so. Which is when I start feeding them some Boost, then in week 4/5 I'll feed them PK 13/14 which is supposed to make them explode in sexiness.

It's my first time with the canna nute line so I don't know what to expect.

I'm mostly thrown off because the Canna Nutes Part A and B are meant to be used in equal parts.. something even the experienced coco growers over at ICmag recommend. However the Canna Nute Part A contains an N value of 5 at the recomended dosage I believe or higher.

I'm probably going to give the plants a really GOOD flush at the end of week 3 right before I start feeding with the PK 13/14, but I am jumping the gun here.. Let me get to week 4 before I start contemplating the sexines to come :stoned:

Well I went to feed the plants today and I noticed the leaves were getting green.. Way too green.. very dark dark green.

This is an indication of too much nitrogen and the plants suffer because of it. To remedy the solution I watered all the plants with plain water ph'd between 5.6-5.8

I will do a full flush (6 gallons of water) per plant on sunday night or monday night.

My plan is to have the plants to leach as much of the available nitrogen in their leaves as possible until they return to a suitable color

I've also raised the light back an additional 6 inches to give them time to recover.

No pics because I tried to get a shot of the super green leaves while under the HPS instead of out in normal light like I should've.. so it's difficult to tell..

hell I'll post it anyway.. Trust me these plans are green; it's a sign of nitrogen toxicity. Hopefully I caught it early enough to where it's not a problem for the young ladies. This could also explain why it was taking a while for them to show their pistils.

5 out of 7 plants have sexed.

fyi... if you cant tell the color in this pic then check out the LST mother in my mothering log. She's not nearly as dark green as the others but she's getting there. I will give her a full on flush on sunday night.

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...ml#post1929296

Flushed each plant with 4 gallons of water since I did a mini flush on them all earlier. I then fed with a 5th gallon of water that had a half dose of PK 13/14 to try to induce bloom a little bit better than the rate they were going at.

Plants are looking great.

Decided to take some pics for you all:

Pic 1: Overall Shot of all the plants
Pic 2: Closer overall shot of all the plants
Pic 3: Height of one of the tallest plants; just to give an idea of actual size
Pic 4: Overall shot of all the plants 10 days ago.

very nice man, you keep your stuff really clean too, kudos for that

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Originally Posted by justanotherbozo

very nice man, you keep your stuff really clean too, kudos for that

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Thanks.. I still need to lift tie that power cord up so that way it's not drooping on the ground, but I try to keep a clean grow space.

I even sweep inside the hut once a week. :thumbsup:

lol, i hate admitting i'm not so fastidious

Get a good dustbuster.....I can't live without mine.

Dai, the plants are looking terrific!! Keep it up!! :thumbsup:

Lookin great D!! Weedy's right, I keep a dustbuster just for the room, lol... Nice cool tubes...heh
whiskeytango

Well.. I've decided to go hydro and will probably be shopping around for a decent looking aeroponics/hydroponics system. Now with the future plans aside.. time to discuss the current grow:

Watered all the plants last night with about half a gallon of solution each. Here was the mixture:

8ml PK 13/14 per gallon
8ml Canna Boost per gallon
Ph'd to 5.8

That's right; I cut out the canna coco nutes part A/B all together. The leaves are still a bit darker green than I'd like but hopefully cutting out the nutes all together will help. I will start adding calmag plus soon for all the micronutes but it should be good until the next feeding time.

Later this afternoon I get the joy of tearing down my grow room. The cable guys are coming out and out of all the rooms in the house they need access too.. they need access to that one room. FUCK!.

Luckily it's a grow tent so I can just tear it down really fast. I'll probably leave the frame up. I plan on transporting the plants downstairs into one of the master bedroom closets. I'll put a 33 gallon trashbag over each plant so that it's night period doesn't get interrupted while I'm carrying the plant from the grow area and into it's hiding place.

In addition to this I have to take down my fans and lighting; which isn't a big deal except that I have to big gaping holes in my ceiling that might rouse some questions from the installers. If they ask me I plan on telling them that I was working in the attic and I stepped on part of the floor where the sheet rock was floated poorly. Sounds like a valid enough excuse to me.

either way; I hope to have them the hell out of my house before it's time for lights to come back on.

Also my mom was trying to insist on coming over today. I was like WTF. I basically told her no and to not bother me until I call her. On top of that my g/f's dad decides to drop by yesterday and I didn't lock the room. Luckily she steered him away from the room. He's really laid back and doesn't care too much about crap. She told him it's locked and it's a room just used for storage after which he just went back downstairs to play with the kitten. He's a cool dude.

Nothing suspicious going and I don't necessarily believe in god since I'm agnostic; but sometimes I wonder if I'm being fucked with just to see me stress out. LOL!

My mom goes back to Florida next week.. comcast won't need to get into my attic again.. and my g/f's dad probably won't drop by ever again unless we invite him. Everyone else who stops by can eat a big fat one.

lol

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Originally Posted by daihashi

Well.. I've decided to go hydro and will probably be shopping around for a decent looking aeroponics/hydroponics system. Now with the future plans aside.. time to discuss the current grow:

Watered all the plants last night with about half a gallon of solution each. Here was the mixture:

8ml PK 13/14 per gallon
8ml Canna Boost per gallon
Ph'd to 5.8

That's right; I cut out the canna coco nutes part A/B all together. The leaves are still a bit darker green than I'd like but hopefully cutting out the nutes all together will help. I will start adding calmag plus soon for all the micronutes but it should be good until the next feeding time.

Later this afternoon I get the joy of tearing down my grow room. The cable guys are coming out and out of all the rooms in the house they need access too.. they need access to that one room. FUCK!.

Luckily it's a grow tent so I can just tear it down really fast. I'll probably leave the frame up. I plan on transporting the plants downstairs into one of the master bedroom closets. I'll put a 33 gallon trashbag over each plant so that it's night period doesn't get interrupted while I'm carrying the plant from the grow area and into it's hiding place.

In addition to this I have to take down my fans and lighting; which isn't a big deal except that I have to big gaping holes in my ceiling that might rouse some questions from the installers. If they ask me I plan on telling them that I was working in the attic and I stepped on part of the floor where the sheet rock was floated poorly. Sounds like a valid enough excuse to me.

either way; I hope to have them the hell out of my house before it's time for lights to come back on.

Also my mom was trying to insist on coming over today. I was like WTF. I basically told her no and to not bother me until I call her. On top of that my g/f's dad decides to drop by yesterday and I didn't lock the room. Luckily she steered him away from the room. He's really laid back and doesn't care too much about crap. She told him it's locked and it's a room just used for storage after which he just went back downstairs to play with the kitten. He's a cool dude.

Nothing suspicious going and I don't necessarily believe in god since I'm agnostic; but sometimes I wonder if I'm being fucked with just to see me stress out. LOL!

My mom goes back to Florida next week.. comcast won't need to get into my attic again.. and my g/f's dad probably won't drop by ever again unless we invite him. Everyone else who stops by can eat a big fat one.

lol

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Sup D going DRo huh don't go out and buy some expensive system bro, just bulid one and you'll spend alot less money and have even more satisfaction knowing you made it yourself good luck

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Originally Posted by d4twamp

Sup D going DRo huh don't go out and buy some expensive system bro, just bulid one and you'll spend alot less money and have even more satisfaction knowing you made it yourself good luck

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I'm looking at Stinky's NFT setup right now. Hopefully I can get it all setup on the cheap :thumbsup:

Dai youv'e hit the same issue as we have......keeping stuff hidden.

Have fun with that......because you never know when someone will drop by and it's quite the juggling act sometimes.

^^ what she said
:joint1:

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Dai youv'e hit the same issue as we have......keeping stuff hidden.

Have fun with that......because you never know when someone will drop by and it's quite the juggling act sometimes.

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well.. that room is typically locked and I tell people I just use it for storage; which has worked great. No one questions it, but I do have future plans to make that room 100% hidden... james bond, secret bookshelf style door.

welp.. I bit the bullet and bought all the equipment I need for a modular containerized NFT system. But that is for another grow log at another time.

Total cost for everything including some spare equipment was $130. This is capable of growing up to 24 plants.

Not bad I say :thumbsup:

Here is where I bought it all and the quantity of each

B'Cuzz Dutch Leach Tray W/Fittings QTY: 4
EcoPlus 185 Gph Submersible Pump QTY: 2
1/4" Poly Tubing 50' Roll QTY: 1
1/2" Poly Tubing 50'Roll QTY: 1
Hole Punch Black QTY: 1
Dripper Stake 45Deg (100/Bag) 1Ea=1Stake QTY: 36
5.5X5.5X6In Black Square Pots QTY: 24
5 Gallon Bucket (Black) .75 Mil (144 Skid) QTY: 2

I'm curious about this grow method. What does the initials mean? I looked at the materials, cool stuff. I'm excited to see how this turns out.

Good Luck, Daihashi.

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Originally Posted by Shovelhandle

I'm curious about this grow method. What does the initials mean? I looked at the materials, cool stuff. I'm excited to see how this turns out.

Good Luck, Daihashi.

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The initials just mean quantity. It's the exact same method Stinky used in her "n00b" darkside log.

I won't be beginning that grow until I either finish this current grow or until I get another grow hut, 600 watt ballast, light, cool tube and another fan. I'm hoping that I can do the later before the end of november. for more details on this type of growing check out this log:

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...-darkside.html

on another note I was able to tear down my grow area in about 30 minutes.. Not bad. :thumbsup:

Can't wait to see the pix of the new set up D

Wait! WTF happened? What did I miss and why the switch outta coco?
Good luck on the darkside.
And you are brave, I feel your pain on the cable company coming out, and moving your plants! That sucks!:mad: I am sure all will be fine!

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Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH

Wait! WTF happened? What did I miss and why the switch outta coco?
Good luck on the darkside.
And you are brave, I feel your pain on the cable company coming out, and moving your plants! That sucks!:mad: I am sure all will be fine!

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Oh, I will be finishing this grow in coco and placing my mothers in coco also. However when i begin taking clones soon I will be putting them into hydro.

Yeah, the cable company sucked. The worst of it was that in the end they had to end up running cable a long the outside of the house since my wiring inside the house was way too screwy. So I ended up tearing down the entire grow area for no reason.. heh but better to be safe than sorry.

:hippy:

watered the plants last night.. Decided to pull them from their pots and my god are they root bound. I'm at least 6 weeks out; thank god that coco is a little more forgiving with rootbound plants. So long as you water them more frequently then you will usually be fine. It looks like I really needed to plant into 3 gallon pots instead.

I got all my gear in to setup my hydro area. Unfortunatley they forgot to ship the pots. I've contacted the place I ordered from and am waiting to hear back.

In the mean time I took the 2 5 gallon buckets and filled them up with water. I will let them set for about 2 days and then premix my nutes. This should take some of the work out of mixing up nute solution the day of my watering.

Since I mix 1 gallon jug at a time it get's very tedious; but this way I'll have a resevoir I can pull from. Should give me 1 hour of my time back which would be nice.

I might take some pics of the plants either tomorrow night or Sunday night. I'll update my mothering log while I'm at it. The mothers are still small but they're under CFL's. I'm about to build out another area for my 400 watt HID.I figure I can use this to get my other mom's a little bit of a kick start. I'm wanting to get some clones of each of these in my next grow.

hey D what kind of hydro system you running with....

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Originally Posted by d4twamp

hey D what kind of hydro system you running with....

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http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...ml#post1627557

when will the new hydro setup be up and runnin

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Originally Posted by d4twamp

when will the new hydro setup be up and runnin

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Well now it's all dependant on when i get my pots I ordered. If I get them soon then I'll try to take some clones by this coming friday.

Are you using net pots

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Originally Posted by d4twamp

Are you using net pots

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Nope. Using regular 5.5"x5.5"x6" pots. :)

Ok got some pics for everyone. I estimate to be on day 26 of flowering. Most of these shots are glamour shots

Pic1: Shot of one of the plant colas
Pic2: different plant main cola
Pic3: different plant main cola
Pic4: different plant main cola
Pic5: bud top close up