5*White Widow feminized. Coco.

Oh Puff! You are my hero!

Such a kind spirit. To go through what u have been and seemingly-no bitterness! What an angel! I can't rep you, or would my addy. Will get you a magazine! With all your skill, you don't need it, but I bet you'd love to read it!

Thanks for the new picture's--looking really nice! You don't do anything half assed! What spirit! It is contagious!! Thanks for being a bright spot in my life!! And the most encouragement and motivational person I've met! You have had me so excited about my next grow season, it isn't funny!

thanks to you my friend!! pr :thumbsup:

Ok.
I got some leafdamage around the colas of plant one and two now. Some starting on plant 4 as well.
It does not look like nute burn still and I was quite sure it was salt build ups.
Seems confirmed now.
I flushed as scheduled after a week of my super nute period and...
Flush was done with tapwater 81 degree F (to solve more salts) at 260ppm pH5.7 .
The runoff from this flush had pH5.7 but 2300ppm hehe. That means the flush water disolved a LOT of salts from the medium and hence they will get pH corrected water for at least 2 more waterings until runoff is down on around 1500 and then I will go back on nutes but a little bit lower. Say around 1800-1900ppm for a week and flush again and resume my scheduled plan for the end of the growth with around one week at 1300-1400ppm followed by 3-4 days flush and 36 hours of darkness before harvest.

I have learned and collected a lot of data from this last week about what these babies can take and what happens with the medium. I knew I would get a salt problem sooner or later at those insane nute levels but the buds have gained a LOT of weight as well and since I knew I was on the edge I always watered until 20-30% runoff but is still kept on adding salts to the coco.
So the deduction from this is that yes it is a good idea to go really hard on nutes during this period but levels has to be corrected a bit and I need to do a flush every 5 days or so next time.

This is data I bring with me to my future grows :D

All plants are healthy and keep adding weight to the buds at a fast rate. Even though I do have some leaf damage now. Not to worry, they are fine and are well cared for hehe.

Puffzter

dammm they look great.:thumbsup:

Puff: sorry about the blemish damage on the bike it could atleast have had the curtesy be totaled since you got "totaled" ...

For the plants its looking damn good, i would love to see you treat some clones from my pot bushes because i have seen what i got from them.
The 2x we harvested gave a combined aprox. 200g or something (filled up coffeecan)
Anyways keep up the good work, i allready prepped my guitarhero skills :P

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PainR
Motorcycle actually. I was a bike racer.
And it, almost, did'nt take any damage at all in the crash.
I have totalled so many bikes in my life and stood up without a scratch on me so obviously when I finally do get it hard the bike walks away with just a blemish :P

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REALLY!?!? ive been an R6 fan my whole riding life (about 3 years.) what kind of bikes have you had? if you dont mind me asking, how did you crash and get all f-d up, but your bike walk away with no scratches? that dosent really make much sence... anyway, would be nice to find other riders on cancom. even those retired. would love to see pics.:hippy:

Danish::
Don't train too much man I am just 37/42 Hard hehe.

Joe:
I've been racing roadracing and Monobike but my passion was always Supermoto and that's what I did on a serious level. The crash was in a 20y table top on a mx track. And I have crashed on that exact spot certainly 50 times before over the years. But ye when everything goes wrong the same second...
And don't get me wrong it's better that the bike is ok than totalled just Ironic it is ok the time I am smashed up.
I still have it. It is after all a bike that brought me a lot of success. Thinking about making it crisp and put it in my livingroom.

Puffzter

ahh right on for shairing your story. i was never into dirt, but you sound pretty good. thats cool you still got your bike. right on Mr.Puff.:thumbsup:

WOW! Puffzter your girls are looking great. With results like your getting you might have to setup a screen of green next time, to keep those plump hotties from falling over. I've been using a soil less sunshine mix for awhile now but those coco results have me thinking about trying that out.
You definitely are on the road to breeding. Chimera does some great work geared toward people like us, he also wrote an excellent chapter on breeding in Jorge Cervantes medical growing book.
Looks like a very nice harvest is on the way. Have you tried any edibles? With all that herb your going to have, cooking would be a great way to put it to use. :D

Hi trinity and thanks for the kind words.
Well I am not going ScrOG next time but I certainly will at some point.
Next time will be an aeroponics SoG of 16 plants.
And about coco you should definitelly try it out. Growth is just insane and it is very easy to manage imo. And you are in perfect control of the feeding with instant reaction time of the medium if you just read up on the basics of it.

About breeding that is surelly something I would love to do but I as I am living there is just no space for it. If I breed I wanna do it right with a vast selection of plants to get the best possible genetics from the strains I choose to work with.

Well yeah I expect I will have weed for over a year just from this grow so I will certainly cook/bake some. I am also planning on doing some bubble hash to see how well that works out for me.
Exciting times ahead. :D
Mothers are ready to clone more than I need from now so just waiting for my ladies to finish and my aeroponics system to be delivered.

Puffzter

Day 44 12/12...

Yeah they did take a pounding from the salts but they kept on putting on weight really well even going through that.
Plant 1 took it the worst and I took away some really resinous leaves around the cola today that was quite damaged. Plant 4 also got hurt but not as much.
Both of these are growing really damn well though so I am not worried. They have been pushed hard and wear the scars to prove it now but they have come through with flying colors and are doing what they should.
Tough little soldiers.

Pic plant 4 bud. This plant make the hardest and most compact nugs and colas. VERY frosty even though I can't capture it.
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0594.jpg

Pic plant 1 cola. Compare with the last pic post I did and you can see how much weight it put on the last three days. Also a very damn frosty plant with a super nice cola.
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0591.jpg

Puffzter

Woha, as I said I trimmed off some damaged leaves around a few colas and buds earlier.
They were quite sticky so I put them on a plate and dried them on slow in the microwave for 15 minutes.

These leaves packed quite a punch hihi. Better than most shit you find on the streets for sure. Didn't try a lot but got a niiice buzz from just a few tokes.

Puffzter

Very nice!!!

I'm so glad there is another active coco grower here for me to look at their logs. Those plants are looking very nice despite the problems you had.

Surprisingly my plants that suffered a week of hell are also bouncing back very quickly. It's only been 1 day and 3-4 of them are starting to look healthy again, the rest are lagging but I bet will catch up soon.

Coco is an amazing medium, it's got the instataneous benefits of hydro with some of the benefits of soil (such as slight buffering and keeping the roots warm... etc etc.)

I don't think I'll ever be going back to soil again... and I'm not sure I'll even bother moving onto hydro. I've been so impressed with this medium.

I'll be watching this thread like a hawk now that I have power restored.

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And about coco you should definitelly try it out. Growth is just insane and it is very easy to manage imo. And you are in perfect control of the feeding with instant reaction time of the medium if you just read up on the basics of it.

Puffzter

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Puffzter, I am impressed!
You made me go out and buy some coco.

Used to use Supersoil in California. Got reasonable results.
Found out that it's a bad idea in the tropics.
Every bag comes with millions of Fungus Gnats. No extra charge.:D

So, messed around with Rockwool and Hydrotron for 1 grow.
Better, still not great. The Hydrotron gave me PH problems.

Built a few aeroponics units out of plastic waste baskets.
Water pump in the bottom and an airstone to keep the water sweet.
Worked a treat! Did keep the roots a little too wet though.

Got some WW in DWC right now.

I like simple, and easy.
'cause I'm a bit simple and a lot lazy.:)
So the latest experiment is elegant and cheap.
A 6 gallon, (about 26 L.) bucket, a 6" Netpot and some cotton string.
I loop the string through the bottom of the netpot so it hangs down about 20cm. and wicks the water up to the pot.
Strings do not even have to reach the surface 'cause the bubbling splashes them.
The pot is filled with Rockwool cubes. I put 2 large airstones in the bucket and feed them from an aquarium air pump (about $8. USD). I get the buckets free.
So each unit costs about $12.
No timer, no water pump, no ebb, no flow, no leaks, just grow.
The results, even using a 42W LED array as the only light, so far, (19 days veg) are superb!
Thanks to your efforts, I'm building 4 more DWC units with coco in the netpots.
Your work is very much appreciated.
Mahalo nui loa for sharing.
Absolutely beautiful grow!:greenthumb::greenthumb:

Beeg Aloha from da Beeg Guy's Land.
Wee Zard

Looking very nice Puffzter,

They are getting pretty massive already. I know they are W/W but remind me of the THCB I grew. The colas in that grow looked almost exactly like that. I am not saying they are not WW but just interesting:thumbsup:

As you are aware my babies are at the same length into the flower cycle but my buds are not that big. I am a soil grower but I think I went wrong by leaving them in the 2 gallon pots to long. Lesson Learned:(

Also great work on your log:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: finding the limits of each plant for future reference is a great idea and will pay off big-time in the future.

JG

Hey guys and thanks for checking in. :)

Daihashi:
I certainly share that sentiment. I can not understand what would be the reason to use soil indors. There are just no benefits imo. Only thing would be you cant write ecological in your thread all the time hehe. More dirty, heavier, less aerating, slower reaction, inevitably slower groth rates and you cant keep the plants "eating" at a constant rate. You flood and keep them in a wet mess for some days, then perfect a couple of days and then too dry for a few days and then start over again. That's just how you have to do it in soil. It's not bad or anything but surelly not as good. And coco cost nothing. However you do need to water MUCH more frequently and without an automated system you are bound to your plants and ofc you need to handle nutes a bit more.

Weezard:
Nice to hear man. I'll stand behind coco any day of the week as an insanelly good medium to grow in.
I was during the month I studied Mj growing around the clock more and more convinced about it and after seeing just how violently roots grow throught this medium I am really sure this is it for pot growers. I was on a scandinavian forum before and there coco growing spread very fast through the members after a few growers had written logs about it's benefits as well and now a huge portion of the growers are using it.
I am going aeroponics next grow to try out a nice system but that has nothing to do with me not liking what I see in my bloom chambre. More about me being curious. :D

Jerry, my man:
I don't remember exactly how long you were in 2 gallon pots off the bat but everything over 6-8 weeks since sprouting/rooting and you risk running into problems with 2 gallons of soil slowed down growth might start even a bit earlier.
I just have to say , this post being a love declaration to coco and all, that I am growing in 1.8 gallon pots, hihi.


I do check you guys logs all the time and by that I really mean all the time. I have stolen a lot of tips and techniques from people here when it is possible to use for me and I have used a lot of the information I see as reference which has been insanelly valuable.
My biggest reason for spending so much time on can.com is the insanelly friendly athmosphere here. There is alot of knowledge on all cannabis cultivation forums around the world but nowhere I found myself as at home as here.

<3

Puffzter

Yeah I left them in 2 gallon pots up until 3 weeks ago:( I was freaking out about space because I ended up with way to many females, but the extra plants will make up for the smaller yield per plant:) I fully expect to get around the same yield as last grow so I am happy.

They are starting to swell now and looking realy frosty:thumbsup: Now the only problem is I can't take pics because it is such a jungle in there. HEHEHE.

Ill keep checking in.

JG

puff, your plants are sweelling up NICE! are you still using those tiny pots/ not transplanted?!?! i might try some coco now...

weezzrd, i would look at what killa's doing with hempy buckets. im thinking of putting these two grows together for a simple and vigorous hydro setup.

I am still in the 1.8 gallon pots I originally planted the seeds in hehe. Never transplanted these babies a single time.
They are now 77 days old, 45 in 12/12. You don't go rootbound in coco very easy, it is possible but you can use less than half size the pots that you can with soil.
However.
You need to water a lot. I never go more than 18 hours and normally 12-14h. So, if you wanna use coco and still want to be able to leave your plants for more than a day now and then you need some sort of feeding system.

Puffzter

Bit of an accident today.
I had to tie up some colas before the plants tip over from the weight but I accidently broke of two branches from plant 4 with some nice buds on them. :(

They are hung to dry now and the supersticky trim is drying as well.
Will give me some nice smoke for sure but still...

http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/e9e83f66.jpg

Puffzter

Especially late in flowering, branches bust andstuff. Nice pic though.

It sucks that you lost some branches, but as long as those cola's are in tact I know your not gonna sweat it. Maybe it wasnt so much an accident, but the girls were just dying to give you a taste after you have taken such good care of them:thumbsup:

OOOhhhhh Puff--how sad. Was it an accident or the Tyson coming out! 2 three letter words; bud ear bud??

take it easy! PR:jointsmile:

It was an accident.
No biggie I guess but still. Careless.
Smoked a J of dried trim and after giggling through a southpark episode I watched Fellowship of The Ring yesterday and my oh my, amazing. I was IN that movie yesterday. :D
The bud trim packs helluva punsh.

Puffzter

Sounds jolly good though you will have that little less but judging from the size of your girls storage is more of an issue than that little branch going off.

And for you 37/42 hard on guitar hero im 10/50 on easy ;) tops...
But i still find it funny than a mofo to play guitarhero when im high so lets go...

Im still cheering for your girls.

Btw do you experience the widows setting 7 or 8 leafs ?

Hi guys.
Getting closer here now. Don't know exactly how close though as my hand held microscope is in the mail on it's way here. :)

Also on monday my bubble hash bags will be ordered so I can get some nice bubble from my trim. :rastasmoke:

Even better my aeroponics system together with some extra materials arrive tomorrow or on friday so I can start getting ready for my next cycle.
That is gonna be a mixed clone SoG of Hindu Kush and White Widow starting as soon as my 5 present bushes are done.
During that grow I will get some seeds of Strawberry Cough or Arjan's Haze #3 to get a Sativa mother going so it I can have indica, hybrid and sativa dominant mothers ready to feed my bloom room.

The last few days I have been quite blazed only having gone through half of the trim from the twigs that broke off a couple of days back. Those buds are soon dry as well now. :D
High is a good mix between body and head and really slows down time.

Danish:
PM me on UK420. ;)

Puffzter

Nice accident puff! Been hi for awhile now!! Great!!! If you are gonna have an accident, that looked like a delicious one sweetie! :thumbsup:

You take care. Looking forward to the next one. Damn, wish I had the same books you got a hold of. Guess, I need to go into Los Angeles. Everytime the store orders books for me, I get there and they seem to disappear! Guess, that kind of tell me a lot! When I get my grow going, keep my mouth shut, if Barnes and Noble can't even keep a book behind the counter for me!! Or a head shop! Pretty bad! I'll have to learn the Mike Tyson stuff from you and let um have it. Naw, think I'll save it for my first White Widow grow.

So, how does it taste? What effects are you noticing, besides the head high? Muscle and/or nerve pain relief? Very curious? :D

I have seen pictures of grows that had so many clones taken the bottom was empty and the top heavy. Grow still going, I'll let you know if it topples like yours!

You will always have to have a grow going so I can keep in touch. I was only able to get Nov. High Times, I think Stinky Attic sold Oct right off the shelves. I even went to Los Angeles to try to find it! Oh well, best subscribe, I guess! In fact, I got several magazines. thought I already posted it, but can't seem to find. Oh well, my posts often disappear! Guess it is better than a ban. Just wish I knew why, so I don't keep doing it! Who knows and who cares at this hour, anyway! PR :rastasmoke: :jointsmile:

Hey hun'

Yeah I heard about Stinky being in High Times for some breeding thing, right? Pretty cool I have to say. Cannabis Cup next!

And don't worry, I will keep grows going for a while :P
I have 2 more already planned in detail so it's covered until end of january,at least, already now. hehe

Puffzter

Update.
Today is day 50 of 12/12 and they are doing their final effort right now. Some leave going clear and yellow like autumn trees does, the plants using what's left in them for the colas and buds. :D

All buds and colas have become much more dense and keeping the plants upright is harder and harder in these small pots.

Now, lets get to the fun part. Pictures. :) Bad at showing resin but you get the general idea. Plants are very frosty.

Plant 3 cola
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0617.jpg

Plant 4 cola
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0619.jpg

Plant 1 cola
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0620.jpg

Plant 5 colas. Everything you see from far right to the blur in the middle and one on the left of that are the 6 colas of FIM'd plant 5.
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0623.jpg

I got a call today also that my aeroponic system together with some other materials I ordered will be delivered tomorrow.

Puffzter

I don't know if I've ever told you this but your grows are positively amazing. They make me sort of envious but also very inspired.

Allow me to wipe the puddle of drool of my desk now.

Thanks Jane. :D


Today my Amazon Aeroponics system arrived and I took 8 clones from my Hindu Kush mother and will take another 8 from my White Widow mother tomorrow or the day after. Then I have enough clones to fill up my new system for when the next grow starts in a week or two.
Plan is to veg a week or so after they have rooted and then switch 12/12 with topped plants for 2 colas each. We'll see how it turns out and if I'll stick to the plan.

I am starting flush in my flower room in about a week and I estimate 10 days for harvest so timing is beautiful. :D

2 pics of the Amazon system. It's a bit dusty (cleaned now) and my batteries for the camera are dead so this is what I've got for now.

http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0625.jpg

http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0626.jpg

The system fits nicelly in my grow tent and I have seen a lot of amazing results from other growers using it on european forums so soon we will see how I do when Puffzter goes aero hehe.

Peace.

"The system fits nicelly in my grow tent and I have seen a lot of amazing results from other growers using it on european forums so soon we will see how I do when Puffzter goes aero hehe."

Aloha Puffzter

When a master grower goes aero?!
This is going to be stellar!
Will you be using Hydrotron in the netpots?

Lemme know where to Q up for the free samples.:D

The watching Weeze

Hi Weezard.

Well it's gonna be a learning grow next one. I have a lot of information from other people using this system though so I am hoping for at least decent results.

Actually the pots are so small (like 2 inch) that most people go totally mediumless or with very small RW cubes and pebbles.
I Cloned into RW plugs and pressed down coco around the RW. You can't go wrong with coco hehe. (I hope)

Anyway the clones are taken and I hope they all root. 8 White Widow and 8 Hindu Kush.

My flower room is ready for harvest very soon now but I will try to get the best out of that grow without going too much amber, like some head and not all body. Especially since I soon will have Hindu Kush for that hehe.

The grow in the Amazon system will start as soon as I harvest and I will natrually start a new shiny log for that. :D

Puffzter

I didn't have anything to do so I made some pics from my private grow log since a lot of ppl have said they don't have excel.
I uploaded a compressed folder with 4 pictures in it.

This is how I collect data and run my op in detail.

DOWNLOAD LINK --->
Free file hosting by Savefile.com

Pic1: System and history. Plant naming system and individual history plant by plant
Pic2-4: Exemple from beginning of 5*WW coco grow, veg and late during bloom. Watering, nutes, humidity, temp, light, notes and individual plant info (half outside the pictures).

For the interested.
Plx give some feedback if you check it out. I wanna know what you guys think and as well get suggestions if something can be done better.

Puffzter

damn man, I hope my widow buds end up looking like that. You could use all that bud for weight lifting from the looks of things. That sucks about not getting to take the frosty pics. I hate to turn my light off too just so I can take a pic without the yellow. You could wait until the light turns off and open the tent up and take a pic or 2 real quick and it shouldnt hurt anything. Looks great and inspiring as always my friend. Cant wait to see the harvest numbers.:thumbsup:

Yeah there is some weight in there now. It is a problem even. I had to turn plant 5 around today and since it is the one at the opening of the tent I thought it would be a simple task.
To get it out was quite hard since they are intertwined all of them but I got it out just to learn that no chance in hell it support the weight of its buds/colas. It tips over directly. Same with the others around it when I took it out.
None of them can support itself, its the walls of the tent and the neighbouring plants that keep everything up together with some strings and straps.

The smoke I got from the accident last week has been dried and semi cured by now and the test was very pleasantly trippy so now one week later I am thinking seriously about harvesting right now, or rather start the flush.
There is still quite some white hairs here and there so I could get some more weight out of them I am sure by pushing them another week before flush but I seriously think I have 2kg wet weight in there and I wont sell any AND I have clones rooting as we speak for next grow so it's not like I need more really rofl.

Never imagined they would put on this much weight. That combined with me getting completelly surprised by the 1foot/week stretch the first 3 weeks of 12/12 (anticipated about half of that) has made the plants hard to handle.

The semi cured bud I smoked yesterday was trippy with a little bit of body stone I would say 80/20 and that is about what I want so what a hell lets start the flush ppl. :D

Day 55 12/12 today so I'll cut them day 59-60.
Microscope is here one of these days so I will know how they are doing exact by then.
The plants are all getting more and more yellow leaves by the hour now I have about 15-20% white hairs on the buds/colas. I know they could take 1 more week but the weed is as I want it and there is enough of it to keep me stocked for a year so I wont push it anymore risking a mess.

Puffzter

Puffz - your grow is a testament to your dedication and hard work in teaching yourself, through reading, interrelating with other growers, and trial and error, how best to care for your ladies. Your plants are shining examples of healthy and well-cared for plants. I appreciate your willingness to share your journey and gained knowledge with the rest of us. Your WWs have given us all something at which to take aim. Best of all, I'm truly happy your preliminary smoke report is exemplary!

Dang fine work all around, my friend! I'm looking forward to your aeroponics clone log! Be good out there!

Those plants is just sick... i envy those plants and hope my widow will do as good :)
:thumbsup:

Thanks guys. :)

Today is day 56 of 12/12 and the second day of flushing.
I will flush for still 3-4 days and will keep the plants in dark the last 36 hours or so before cut.
They are very heavy and many side branches have big buds as well that can't be supported without intertwining branches and using strings etc.
This being the first grow and all I can't say how much end product I will end get but knowing about 75% of mass will be lost in drying/curing I would still be surprised If I don't get 10-15 ounces. Gonna be really interesting to see who far off I am hehe.
Took some pics again and as usual they suck but nvm. Here they are.

Pic 1: Plant 1 cola. This is a huge one and very frosty.
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0632.jpg

Pic 2: Plant 2 cola. Just as big and frosty but a bit less dense. It has fallen over and plant 1 is keeping it supported.
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0630.jpg

Pic 3: Plant 3 cola. This is one of the plants I went really rough on. Broke stem 2 times to keep it from stretching too much. Good cola, frosty but not like plant 1-2-4. Good though.
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0633.jpg

Pic 4: Plant 5 (FIM'd) colas. Not all 6 can be seen but 4 at least. These colas are all big and plant will yeild very well but it is also the least frosty one.
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0634.jpg

Puffzter

Holy mother of cola! What have you been feeding those things? Small children? :eek: Wow, no wonder they are trying to punch their way out of that tent. Absolutely gorgeous.

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Holy mother of cola! What have you been feeding those things? Small children? :eek: Wow, no wonder they are trying to punch their way out of that tent. Absolutely gorgeous.

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i second this. gime an A - M - A - Z - I - N - G

man i cant wait to see closeups of the dried product from those things